Recent content by Jimbone

Shouldn't that be, "What doseth thou say-ith now" :LOL: please know this is a joke 100%. Just in case it can be taken any other way.

The biggest problem I run into in this particular conversation seems to be the automatic assumption that when we say you can't lose your salvation is the people take that to mean we are saying, "I'm saved no matter what and can now sin as much as I want with no worries". This completely ignores...

So you're saying it means that some that Jesus took up in His hands were snatched out of them by false teachers? Is that really what you think it means?

So before he sinned he had earned death? That doesn't make much sense to me, even though I do understand and see logic in what you're saying too. However I disagree with you if you think Adam would have died if he would have stayed obedient as Jesus was. I don't agree with that at all. All this...

So what's your point? It's all physical? I don't exactly understand what you're correcting me on here with all these words. I'm not even saying I disagree with you or your point, I honestly got lost and missed it I think, but what about our spiritual disconnection and death during the fall do...

Yep, and because they did die spiritually the day they ate. That is why and how we are "born in sin", because we are born spiritually dead. Jesus is the only way out of this reality.

It's also not a matter of physical sin necessarily. The day they ate they did die, they died spiritually. Adam was created spiritually connected to God, the day they ate that connection was severed and our side died. That's why none of us born of Adam can be born with that part of us. This is...

I disagree in a way, from a different perspective, but understand what you mean, but this highlights a major point of contention between believers. I disagree that "we accept" in order to be saved. This means we "do" something to be saved as humans. This also can lead to me thinking that because...

IU disagree, our will is a slave to sin or a slave to righteousness. At least that's what Jesus said. I'm going with him. I think this is a stupid thing for Christians to fight over though, because you just call choice free will. I believe in choice too, we are told to choose and not be...

Well I know everyone has their own way of looking at it, but I believe we are told that free will isn't even a thing. This is just what we've come to call "choice". I 100% believe that we all have choice, but those choices are a slave to our natures, which are in sin or in the Spirit. I also...

And "the knowledge of good and evil" is us usurping this from God, it's pretending we know what's right and wrong. Exactly how we are born and the biggest message the world throws at us to deceive us from the day we are born. Follow your heart right? Follow the heart that is "21 For from...

Both absolutely right and I agree. :cool:(y)

I don't even know what you're arguing for or why you're so mad/concerned/baffled, but the ONLY path to God is through Christ, if we are in Christ we are grafted into Israel. The ONLY way to be reconciled to our Creator. I don't understand what you're claiming no one can understand like you, but...

Yep, went to the alter deceived, yet was following all the instructions I was given by the church leadership to a "T", and then declared saved. Hmmm, Maybe this is my point. Why do you think I share this? To make myself look good? I also wasn't even considering God or Jesus when He actually...

I disagree with this, in a way. Repentance is a gift from God, not something we "do" ourselves, so "our" level of sincerity when we are granted repentance can be nothing but in sincerity, His sincerity. So from the human perspective and how we see it from our experience, I agree with you 100%...