Ebola spreading?

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AgeofKnowledge

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Obviously Ebola is NOT a hoax. What is not clear yet is whether or not you are disconnected from reality to even say that.

WHO: 10,000 New Ebola Cases Per Week Could Be Seen - ABC News


And enterovirus is all over the media. Just the Internet media returned 8,500,000 unique webpages on it in less than .19 of a second. Use can use Google right?

Non-Polio Enterovirus Infection: Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68) - CDC







Is Ebola a hoax?
Are they just scaring people, why do we hear nothing of intro virus that's killed hundreds of people so far?
 
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Obviously Ebola is NOT a hoax. What is not clear yet is whether or not you are disconnected from reality to even say that.

WHO: 10,000 New Ebola Cases Per Week Could Be Seen - ABC News


And enterovirus is all over the media. Just the Internet media returned 8,500,000 unique webpages on it in less than .19 of a second. Use can use Google right?

Non-Polio Enterovirus Infection: Enterovirus D68 (EV-D68) - CDC
The cdc has a patent on the Ebola virus ? Why have we not shut down flights? Seems to bring "scare" and make you give complete attention, what about the intro virus that's killed 100x more here, or even the isis problem, people need to watch what Obama just recently said in Germany, about people giving up their rights. I just think something is wrong here.
 
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How did Ebola spread to five different countries....so fast?, how was this not contained? And I've heard more people on forums post more common sense about containment then the gov, why is this? Why would we ever let flights come from these places? It makes no sense...
 
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But I pray The Lord keep all His children calm in a world of chaos, and I pray more and more people turn to real truth, in Gods Almighty Word. Amen
 

pickles

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I hope and pray ebola will soon die out as it has many times before.
But, somehow, there is a sence that it will not.

Wether one believes the news or the goverment, or the many predictions made.
As christians I see us all being called to peace in Jesus.
Our concerns should not be about the fears, but what we will do if this does become a world wide pandemic.

Ive read many posts and concerns about this terrible disease, and like many here have wondered about the days to come.
It was only a week ago though that I asked myself how many times had I been concerned for those who are already and have been for some time now, suffering in africa from this terrible disease?
It is trully humbleing.

I guess the question we as christians need to ask ourselves?
Is not wether it will spread and what the danger is to ourselves.
But what we will do if it does spread, and as christians, who we will serve?
Also, what we will fear?

What has been alot on my mind lately are Jesus's words, " he who seeks to save his life shall lose it, but he who is willing to lose his life for my sake, shall save it."

In Jesus, God bless
pickles
 
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There was something on the news with people in full protective suits...half the people in the room started their Ebola panic. Turned out to just be coverage of another meth lab being busted.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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If a deadly disease without any known vaccine or cure such as this (WHO now states 70% chance of death upon infection of Ebola) mutates into an airborne disease like the common cold then the world's population will be materially negated.


I hope and pray ebola will soon die out as it has many times before.
But, somehow, there is a sence that it will not.

Wether one believes the news or the goverment, or the many predictions made.
As christians I see us all being called to peace in Jesus.
Our concerns should not be about the fears, but what we will do if this does become a world wide pandemic.

Ive read many posts and concerns about this terrible disease, and like many here have wondered about the days to come.
It was only a week ago though that I asked myself how many times had I been concerned for those who are already and have been for some time now, suffering in africa from this terrible disease?
It is trully humbleing.

I guess the question we as christians need to ask ourselves?
Is not wether it will spread and what the danger is to ourselves.
But what we will do if it does spread, and as christians, who we will serve?
Also, what we will fear?

What has been alot on my mind lately are Jesus's words, " he who seeks to save his life shall lose it, but he who is willing to lose his life for my sake, shall save it."

In Jesus, God bless
pickles
 

damombomb

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During the forum, Berry; Dr. Dominic Lucia, a specialist in emergency medicine; McLane Children’s Scott & White Chief Medical Officer Dr. John Boyd and Dr. Karen Brust, infectious disease specialist, tried to reassure the public that they are more at risk of catching the flu than they are Ebola.

The doctors repeatedly assured the group that a person can’t contract Ebola unless the body fluid of someone who is displaying symptoms of the disease enters your body, such as if an Ebola patient coughs and saliva enters your eye.

An Ebola patient must be displaying symptoms to be contagious and the disease does not live outside of bodily fluid, they said.
“You have to be in really close contact with body fluids to be exposed to it,” Brust said.
The disease can’t be transmitted by sharing toilet seats with someone who is infected, and it’s not airborne, either, she said.
The reason medical professionals use airborne protection gear is because when working in close proximity to an Ebola patient, the risk to come in contact with bodily fluid, such as blood, vomit or saliva, is much higher, Brust said.
 

pickles

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If a deadly disease without any known vaccine or cure such as this (WHO now states 70% chance of death upon infection of Ebola) mutates into an airborne disease like the common cold then the world's population will be materially negated.
We pray then that such does not happen.
But what ever path this disease takes, we are called to walk in Jesus, His Spirit, not flesh, for it is in this, that fear is removed, and peace is found, despite the terrors of the world.

God bless :)
pickles
 

Mem

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We pray then that such does not happen.
But what ever path this disease takes, we are called to walk in Jesus, His Spirit, not flesh, for it is in this, that fear is removed, and peace is found, despite the terrors of the world.

God bless :)
pickles
Amen.

All that is spreading here is panic.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Ebola is rapidly mutating as it spreads: Ebola Is Rapidly Mutating As It Spreads Across West Africa : Goats and Soda : NPR

If it mutates into an airborn virus, it will cost between tens of millions to hundreds of millions of lives depending on how well governments and their respective populaces respond: Ebola airborne: A nightmare that could happen - CNN.com

As the lead author of the scholarly scientific journal 'Science' (e.g. Pardis Sabeti, a computational biologist at Harvard University) stated:

"The more time you give a virus to mutate and the more human-to-human transmission you see," she says, "the more opportunities you give it to fall upon some [mutation] that could make it more easily transmissible or more pathogenic."

Meaning that the "liberals" (e.g. Obama Administration and Democrats) keeping the borders wide open from Ebola affected nations and calling everyone a "racist" that expresses concern over this administration's not barring people from entering the country from Ebola infected nations is actually assisting the virus in its mutation by offering it new and diverse hosts to mutate in: Tracking a Serial Killer: Could Ebola Mutate to Become More Deadly?

Statistically, it's more likely that Ebola will not mutate into an airborne transmitted virus than the odds are that it will. However, if this deadly virus gets into the air, with no vaccine and no cure whatsoever, I 100% guarantee you that it's going to put people into the dirt faster than toppling dominos.

And it will be the liberals fault if that happens both because of their ignorant, delusional, irresponsible response when they had the political power over Western Civilization and their degenerate fall into atheism, paganism, apostasy, immorality, etc... These "progressive" modern liberals have been prying God's protective covering off the West for decades now through the sheer exercise of their free will but there are still enough of us genuine Christians left to hold the tattered covering for a while longer. If they don't repent, well... read Revelations.


We pray then that such does not happen.
But what ever path this disease takes, we are called to walk in Jesus, His Spirit, not flesh, for it is in this, that fear is removed, and peace is found, despite the terrors of the world.

God bless :)
pickles
 

T_Laurich

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I virus cannot "mutate" into an airborn virus unless it already has airborn strands...

A "mutation" is caused when the virus goes into a pig or duck or some other animal... When it comes back into the human after being into the animal it will now effect us differently... WHY?

The best way to under stand virus mutations is like understanding how a dog has changed from a wolf... It is still a wolf, it just has different over drawn characteristics that are normally overly passive so we call it a dog. But for instance, when a virus is inside a human it would be like a wolf... Kinda a jack of all trades, has ever capability inside of the genome but only the dominate genes are present.. When it goes into the duck, some of the dominate genes will not function, so the passive ones become dominate turning the wolf into a Rottweiler... When it comes back into the human, the passive genes are far more deadly and corrosive, but over time the Rottweiler will revert back into a dog because the passive genes which were once needed are no longer needed...

They call this "virus evolution/mutation". The reason being is a huge lecture on brainwashing and evolution. But in other words what I am trying to say is, if the virus ever becomes airborn (which it already is) The gene must have been present in first place, making the virus airborn from day one.
 
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Scientists a quarter century ago did in fact prove that an Ebola strain contained to monkeys could spread airborne. The 1989 episode at the suburban Reston, Virginia, monkey research facility — made famous by Hollywood movie “Hot Zone” — along with additional research by a scientist who helped fight the Reston outbreak and then went to Africa to treat a later Ebola outbreak in humans — leaves some of the nation’s top disease experts willing to consider that the Ebola virus could mutate or go airborne. Dr. Peters wrote in an extensive study on Ebola in humans that he found some evidence that a 1995 outbreak in Congo may in fact have spread in some cases by aerosol transmission.

Reston - Bio, News, Photos - Washington Times

The United Nations is stating that it could go airborne: Ebola 'could become airborne': United Nations warns of 'nightmare scenario' as virus spreads to the US - Telegraph

You see when viruses enter a cell, they make copies of their genetic information to assemble new virus particles. Viruses such as Ebola virus, which have genetic information in the form of RNA (not DNA as in other organisms), and are notoriously bad at copying their genome. The viral enzyme that copies the RNA makes many errors, perhaps as many as one or two each time the viral genome is reproduced. Now the more hosts infected by a virus, the more mutations will arise. RNA viruses are masters at mutation and this is partly why we need new vaccine's every year for viruses like influenza, for example. That's the bad news.

The good news is that, of course, not all of these mutations will find their way into infectious virus particles and, in fact, it's rare that they do. I'm not personally aware of a virus that has ever mutated to change it's method transmission.

The bottom line is that it's not likely that Ebola will go airborne; however, there is evidence that strains of it exist in non-human populations that already have and furthermore it's possible that it could.

We shall have to wait and see. In the meanwhile, reducing the number of hosts is critical to ensuring that it doesn't. Which, is why it's irresponsible to allow a person in an Ebola impacted area to buy a one way ticket to Kennedy Airport NYC and start mingling with the crowds as presently IS the policy of the Obama Administration!


I virus cannot "mutate" into an airborn virus unless it already has airborn strands...

A "mutation" is caused when the virus goes into a pig or duck or some other animal... When it comes back into the human after being into the animal it will now effect us differently... WHY?

The best way to under stand virus mutations is like understanding how a dog has changed from a wolf... It is still a wolf, it just has different over drawn characteristics that are normally overly passive so we call it a dog. But for instance, when a virus is inside a human it would be like a wolf... Kinda a jack of all trades, has ever capability inside of the genome but only the dominate genes are present.. When it goes into the duck, some of the dominate genes will not function, so the passive ones become dominate turning the wolf into a Rottweiler... When it comes back into the human, the passive genes are far more deadly and corrosive, but over time the Rottweiler will revert back into a dog because the passive genes which were once needed are no longer needed...

They call this "virus evolution/mutation". The reason being is a huge lecture on brainwashing and evolution. But in other words what I am trying to say is, if the virus ever becomes airborn (which it already is) The gene must have been present in first place, making the virus airborn from day one.
 

Joidevivre

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Oh Blain - stop thinking about this. I have. I'm not an ostrich with my head in the sand. I just know that there is no disease that has the power to take my life. Only God can take my last breath.

And He can do it whenever he wants. And the way He wants to do it. And it won't be done until my purpose has been played out on earth. Amen.
 

Blain

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Oh Blain - stop thinking about this. I have. I'm not an ostrich with my head in the sand. I just know that there is no disease that has the power to take my life. Only God can take my last breath.

And He can do it whenever he wants. And the way He wants to do it. And it won't be done until my purpose has been played out on earth. Amen.
HAHAHA funny thing is I had stopped thinking about this and completely forgotten about until you said this. guess im back on the train and its your fault;b
 

Blain

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HAHAHA funny thing is I had stopped thinking about this and completely forgotten about until you said this. guess im back on the train and its your fault;b
OOOH OOOH I GOT IT, the song crazy train that would be perfect
 
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Sure there is. There's lots of them. In fact, in your age group (e.g. 65 and older), the CDC reports that only 23 percent of deaths in the U.S. are non-disease events.

Historically, plague has been quite an event. For example, the Black Death which began in Europe in the 13th century took an estimated 30 percent or more of the entire population of Christianized Europe.

Lots of things can take your last breath and they include disease, being the victim of a crime, accidental death, etc... But I'm sure you find some consolation in pretending that you are invulnerable and while people die all around you from a wide variety of causes: it could never happen to you.








Oh Blain - stop thinking about this. I have. I'm not an ostrich with my head in the sand. I just know that there is no disease that has the power to take my life. Only God can take my last breath.

And He can do it whenever he wants. And the way He wants to do it. And it won't be done until my purpose has been played out on earth. Amen.
 

crossnote

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Sure there is. There's lots of them. In fact, in your age group (e.g. 65 and older), the CDC reports that only 23 percent of deaths in the U.S. are non-disease events.

Historically, plague has been quite an event. For example, the Black Death which began in Europe in the 13th century took an estimated 30 percent or more of the entire population of Christianized Europe.

Lots of things can take your last breath and they include disease, being the victim of a crime, accidental death, etc... But I'm sure you find some consolation in pretending that you are invulnerable and while people die all around you from a wide variety of causes: it could never happen to you.

I think she means diseases can't take her last breath unless God allows it...but yes, it's good to keep the powder dry.
 

Joidevivre

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Oh my gosh - did I just see a finger pointed at me? I feel like I'm wearing a scarlet D.
 
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LOL! I'm just messing with you. I have a copy of an 18th century sermon here titled 'How Can Thou Get To Heaven With Those Ribbons In Your Hair."

Lolol...

Oh my gosh - did I just see a finger pointed at me? I feel like I'm wearing a scarlet D.