Fat people and judging people

I was on a train the other day and a very large overweight man sat next to me and although I'm small there wasn't enough room to move. As he read his paper he kept nudging me. I felt very bad towards him as I was cross that he was making me uncomfortable and I started feeling that he was a bad person because he was fat. Then I thought that's not very nice and I should have kinder thoughts. Then he started eating crisps.
I started thinking that if people abuse the body that God gave them by not exercising and eating too much of the wrong things there is something bad about them. I know its not my place to judge and there are worse things but there are more and more gross obese people because laziness and greed are becoming more normal. I find myself not liking people if they are fat.
I dont mean to be judgemental but I feel that way before I realise.
Anyway I do think that exercise is Godly and eating lots of cakes is gluttony, and if there's not enough room on a seat in a train because you are too fat then you should stand, it will do you good.

well, you can't judge someone's heart by their appearance. but as far as the laziness and greed you are right young one. now that does not mean you judge them as bad people. but thinking someone is overweight when they clearly are and you see them eating chips is not wrong. had a common experience the other day. I was getting my truck serviced and there was a guy in the waiting area sitting in a chair that he was hanging off of eating Christmas cookies out of a box.

I know I shouldn't judge fat people. But I think better lifestyles should be encouraged.

Well, let me ask you this then Anna - Who does it harm when you judged this man? Did it harm him? Did it harm anybody reading about it? Personally, I think the only person that was harmed was you. It actually caused you to think about it, make a conclusion about fat people in general and consequently feel bad enough (apparently) to write about it and ask about it in this forum. In other words, you were convicted by it.

i'm not fat, but then again, I can get away with a lot of bad habits right now. Youth gives most a high metabolism and a more active life, but the REAL problem isn't necessarily gluttony. It's greed. People sell what people will buy. Foods rich in fat and sugar sell better than foods good for you. Because of competition, these foods have become less and less expensive and because they offer no nutritional value, more and more is eaten from people trying to achieve it. Heck, a poor person can get a hamburger and chips cheaper than he can a nutritious meal. Plus it satisfies his basic instinctual needs. Work ensures that most people lead a sedentary while they're at work and by the time they get home and eat a "quick" supper - it's time for bed. It's a lot easier to judge and maybe not so easy to change a lifestyle.

That being said, I don't really know anything about the fat guy. Then again, neither did you.

the point is salvation and freedom to the glory of God. it used to be that lack of exercise and bad diet could cause people to be fat, and gluttony is an infamous sin through the ages,

but look at youtube reminders of woodstock(and any other photo's/video's ) back in the 60's. the cameras panned across fields with tens of thousands of people,

AND NOT ANYONE WAS FAT. NOT ONE.......... later, the rest of the story.....

I am an ex-fat person....and this weight came on out of nowhere.....I never really over ate ....not as much as eating wrong....and often.....I have gainned 100 lbs...at three different times of my life....
Fear...loneliness.....depression....are all slippery slopes.....pain of loss....all good reasons to
sooth the pain...with eating yummy food.....you are afraid to eat in front of others....for the fear
of judgement can place you back to food once again....its a cycle.....and because you are treated
this way.......you developed a low self essteme...... If you think sitting next to this man was uncomfortable.....you then must be able to see how truly being in his skin is so much more....
More self hate.....leads to more eating.......so before you get too mad at these people ....or annoyed
at being around them.....look to uplift this brother....help them build self worth.....what I found out..
All three times of gaining this weight I lost it quickly....only to wait for the next tragity to start ....
I ran to God and asked for His help....after realizing this rollercoaster could be extremely unhealthy...
So I changed the way I did things....when I felt sad...things got bad....I would exercise when I felt
that need to eat.....when I got tired I went for a walk.....things changed...I look at food and exercise
as not a torcher.,...but a soother....I'm now controlling my weight and will be in shape for the rest
of my life......I know this was a stranger but can you imagine if you gave this man a little kindness...
You might have been able to start him on the road to self awareness....he knows by your body
language that you were disgusted by him.....that's probably why he pulled out the chips.....jmo
And by the way......nobody was fat at Woodstock cause they were all on drugs.....it was the beginning
Of the drug war here........and the types of drugs they did was usually uppers and those things latter
became known as diet pills.........peace ...jo

What concerned me was not his fatness but his inconsiderateness as he kept nudging you for grasping more space...a sign of selfishness...a worse condition than being obese

Perhaps he was being obtuse.

I think because he was so big he couldnt turn the pages without nudging me but he was not concerned at all

I agree. But encouraging better lifestyles is not the issue. They are already encouraged. You raise a good point Anna, although it sounds as though your judgement is biased against obesity. The extreme goes both ways; overweight or underweight, yet there's no mention of underweight people in your post. That bias might be seen as insensitive.

Some may not shy away from attempting to live a healthy lifestyle so much as they may have an eating disorder, also. We need to wear kid gloves in our judgements.

I am glad that you got to thinking about promoting something good (healthy living) through this experience of yours! That's thinking.

now. in oklahoma. obesity is epidemic. and it's not all because of gluttony. the food , air and water are all contributing to most of the fatness. it takes a lot of diligence or simply God's care to not get fat. or not get diabetes. or not get poor eyesight. the profitmongers don't want people to know how to be healthy for less money. they want the money.

this is in no way an excuse for sin , for anyone. but many don't even know what they are consuming. if they find out in time, they can stop the epidemic in their life.

You just never know what is going on in a person's life that they are heavy. I just seemed to not be able to keep weight off after I was about 35, and then had my children in my late 30's. The pregnancy weight just would not come off and I did daily aerobics as well as 20-40 mile bike rides. Then during an extremely stressful time in my life I lost all the weight and looked so good. Then depression and lack of sleep due to another problem and I put it all back on plus 20lbs. I'm not obese and people don't ever guess me to be as heavy as I am, but I sometimes hate myself and yet I have nothing else to do but eat. For some people it is the only pleasure they have in life. Some circumstances make it very difficult to get in a regular exercise routine.

Somebody that heavy should be more considerate of crowding somebody, they know they are big.

Annabou,

I try to stay in shape, but I know a lot of people who would LIKE to, but cannot.

There are all kinds of physical ailments that can prevent people from exercising.

If somebody is bumping into you, all you have to do is gather up a TINY bit of assertiveness,
and just say, "Hey, can you please stop bumping into me?"
But there is just NO REASON to judge someone's moral character by their weight.

You have NO IDEA why that person is overweight.
Furthermore, who is it hurting?

You need to seriously get a grip, and stop feeling so superior to everyone.

Right now you're 15, and probably have an extremely high metabolism.
Most girls, by the time they hit 18-19, will have a huge drop in metabolism, and start gaining weight for NO REASON.
(This is very likely part of your near future.)
Then again when a woman gets pregnant, her whole body chemistry will go completely out of whack, often permanently.

At the tender age of 15, you really have NO PLACE to be acting superior because an older person that YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT happens to be overweight.

If you were MY 15 year old daughter, you'd be grounded to sit and think through things until you began to have some compassion for others. And you'd stay grounded as long as it took.

You don't have to be fat to be considered unhealthy.

To the OP you are young so I will try not to be too hard on you.People gain weight for many reasons.I had a health issue that caused me to gain weight.I had always been the weight I was suppose to be,even underweight at times.Then I had a health issue with my stomach that no doctor could tell me what it was.I had to go on meds and it caused me to gain a lot of weight very fast.Because of a neck injury I am unable to do anything but light exercise.I fell into deep depression because of the weight,I had never had that issue. Be careful what you say and who you judge. You dont know what a person has gone through.Fat people are not bad people and Im amazed to hear anyone say that! You are being very rude and judgmental.

did you guys not read she said??? the dude was overweight and eating something. she was not way wrong, just a bit wrong. a bit harsh, but not bad. I encourage all of us to not let political correctness take over our thinking. if you see a clearly overweight person, as she did and I did, eating more junk that is not being judgemental, that is calling it like you see it.

It doesnt matter if he was eating something and was overweight,none of your business. The OP said she found herself not liking people that were fat and there were more fat people because of laziness and greed.In all I think I was rather nice to the OP.Had she been older it would have gone differently. You are 100% judging when you say greed and laziness make people fat. Has nothing to do with being pc. I told about my own story and how a sudden change in health and meds caused me to gain weight and the depression I have had to deal with. On the whole I think I was very nice.