Make sense, or not?

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I read this recently, and the first thing I thought was...

Well, that doesn't matter. What do you think of it?

I can assure you that any minister or prophet who, while claiming to speak for God, declares that God is blessing any act of violence or war, or that He is calling a certain nation to war against another nation, etc..., is not only NOT speaking for God, but has never even seen or understood Him. From the beginning of His life until the very end, Jesus exposed violence as man's main problem, and reveals that our projection of that violence onto His Father is our chief theological error.
 

JesusLives

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Sin is our main problem not violence or God asking one nation to rise against another..... Violence however can be a result of sin....God did ask Israel to do away with wicked nations and sometimes they complied....

We need Jesus and He is the only one who will one day put down all violence.....Main Problem is sin not violence....
 

p_rehbein

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I agree that it does not make sense. I once had a lady tell me that the God of the Old Testament was not her God. Her God was the God of the New Testament. I still get dizzy when I try to figure that one out.
 
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DesiredHaven

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They were to go war against Amalek from generation to generation, till the rememberance of them was wiped out.

I know Saul actually disobeyed God by not executing his wrath, Samuel the prophet had to and Samuel did hew Agag to pieces before the Lord. But it looks as if a prophet had to finish doing what a King (in this case Saul) was called to do.

The execution of his wrath is not a blessing ofcourse but was Gods will as expressed in Exodus 17:16
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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I can assure you that any minister or prophet who, while claiming to speak for God, declares that God is blessing any act of violence or war, or that He is calling a certain nation to war against another nation, etc..., is not only NOT speaking for God, but has never even seen or understood Him. From the beginning of His life until the very end, Jesus exposed violence as man's main problem, and reveals that our projection of that violence onto His Father is our chief theological error.
I suspect Theology is our chief theological error.
 
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JustAnotherUser

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While we shouldn't inflict any pain or violence against someone for no given reason, we are allowed to defend ourselves if we find that we're at threat. Would you let ISIS raid your hometown and inflict suffering on the town's population while destroying everything in sight and not do anything about it because you're supposed to be peaceful and loving?
 

p_rehbein

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While we shouldn't inflict any pain or violence against someone for no given reason, we are allowed to defend ourselves if we find that we're at threat. Would you let ISIS raid your hometown and inflict suffering on the town's population while destroying everything in sight and not do anything about it because you're supposed to be peaceful and loving?
I remember some guy in the Bible went and tossed over a bunch of tables and run a bunch of people out of a Temple once.....can't remember who right off, but, it will come to me.
 
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I suspect Theology is our chief theological error.
I like this.

I also find it intriguing to realize that Jesus is probably the most dangerous fact that our "Christianity" has to face.
 
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Makes me wonder if the person in question who spoke the quote in the op here......had read Deuteronomy 32?.......Also makes me question whether the person who made that statement thinks God is asleep and men do as they please without God having knowledge of it?....... Wasn't war part of His plan to bring Israel to repentance for their rebellion and lack of faith? Well maybe i'm reading to far into it.......