the Secular Mindset

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MadParrotWoman

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#1
I was seriously ticked-off today during break at work. I was one of 4 women taking break together, the conversation topic began with the news (there are several tragedies making the GB news right now) the conversation quickly turned to pedophiles, child abuse and so on:
Woman 1 "What about these pedophile priests and vicars?
Woman 2 "Ugh they are disgusting"
Me "Well personally I think it's unnatural for a man not to be able to marry"
Woman 1 "well they want to devote their life to their Jesus - it's what they believe in isn't it?"
Woman 2 "Church people are the worst...don't talk to me about church people!" This isn't the first time "woman 2" has said this to me and she repeats herself when she is saying it.

Well at that I got up and walked out. I'm pretty sure they know I'm "a church person"
Oh yeah sure "church people" are terrible, they are the first on the scene of a disaster, they feed and clothe the homeless. Our church runs a foodbank, does litter clearing in our local area on Saturday mornings (as opposed to laying in bed!) and once a week goes out onto the streets befriending and offering drinks to prostitutes, telling them about the love of Jesus and that there is an alternative to what they are doing.

...oh yeah "church people" are terrible...

Sorry, I had to vent and couldn't do it at work. Rant over!
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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#2
People are people so why should it be
You and I should get along so awfully?

- Depeche Mode
 

Mo0448

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Jun 10, 2013
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#3
Show them that their impression of "these church people" are wrong...sure there are some cruddy self righteous "Christians" (if you could call em that) judgmental "Church people" but just as there are extremes in the Christian world there are those that are in the extreme in the secular world. You know what I'd do in my head I'd see that as a "challenge accepted!" And attempt without coming off overly strong that "these church people" aren't all the same especially you madparrotwoman :)
 
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MadParrotWoman

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#4
Show them that their impression of "these church people" are wrong...sure there are some cruddy self righteous "Christians" (if you could call em that) judgmental "Church people" but just as there are extremes in the Christian world there are those that are in the extreme in the secular world. You know what I'd do in my head I'd see that as a "challenge accepted!" And attempt without coming off overly strong that "these church people" aren't all the same especially you madparrotwoman :)
I think they were talking generally, not about me but I sure was mad even if I didn't show it. I have been told "you are different" at work lol.
 
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atwhatcost

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#5
I was seriously ticked-off today during break at work. I was one of 4 women taking break together, the conversation topic began with the news (there are several tragedies making the GB news right now) the conversation quickly turned to pedophiles, child abuse and so on:
Woman 1 "What about these pedophile priests and vicars?
Woman 2 "Ugh they are disgusting"
Me "Well personally I think it's unnatural for a man not to be able to marry"
Woman 1 "well they want to devote their life to their Jesus - it's what they believe in isn't it?"
Woman 2 "Church people are the worst...don't talk to me about church people!" This isn't the first time "woman 2" has said this to me and she repeats herself when she is saying it.

Well at that I got up and walked out. I'm pretty sure they know I'm "a church person"
Oh yeah sure "church people" are terrible, they are the first on the scene of a disaster, they feed and clothe the homeless. Our church runs a foodbank, does litter clearing in our local area on Saturday mornings (as opposed to laying in bed!) and once a week goes out onto the streets befriending and offering drinks to prostitutes, telling them about the love of Jesus and that there is an alternative to what they are doing.

...oh yeah "church people" are terrible...

Sorry, I had to vent and couldn't do it at work. Rant over!
I'm confused. Why couldn't you say that at work?

They aren't doing that by accident. They simply assume "church people" have to politely accept their rudeness and want to see how far to push it.

I don't see that in my Bible. I don't see Jesus politely accepting the Pharisees and Sadducees' rubbish. So, why can't you say it at work? I've said what needs to be said to even my bosses.
 
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atwhatcost

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#6
Show them that their impression of "these church people" are wrong...sure there are some cruddy self righteous "Christians" (if you could call em that) judgmental "Church people" but just as there are extremes in the Christian world there are those that are in the extreme in the secular world. You know what I'd do in my head I'd see that as a "challenge accepted!" And attempt without coming off overly strong that "these church people" aren't all the same especially you madparrotwoman :)
Yeah, I've tried that approach at work. Nine years later, on my last day of work a fellow coworker was wearing a Christian T-shirt. (I can't remember what it said, but it was obviously Christian.) This was something of our conversation:

Me: I didn't know you were Christian. I mean I always knew you were nice and you're a good boss, but I didn't know you were Christian. Me too.

Him: Wow! I knew you were nice and hard working, but I didn't know you were a Christian either.

Lesson learned: Walk the walk, but talk the talk too.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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#7
I'm confused. Why couldn't you say that at work?

They aren't doing that by accident. They simply assume "church people" have to politely accept their rudeness and want to see how far to push it.

I don't see that in my Bible. I don't see Jesus politely accepting the Pharisees and Sadducees' rubbish. So, why can't you say it at work? I've said what needs to be said to even my bosses.
Well, there were 3 of them and two are sisters who defend each other to the hilt. There is no way I'm going to start a massive argument during break at work. I "said" all I could by walking out - they knew I wasn't happy but you are correct there is only so much I will take. The next time I probably will have to say something. I'm a very non-confrontational person and I hate conflict so usually it is my face that "talks".
 
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atwhatcost

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#8
Well, there were 3 of them and two are sisters who defend each other to the hilt. There is no way I'm going to start a massive argument during break at work. I "said" all I could by walking out - they knew I wasn't happy but you are correct there is only so much I will take. The next time I probably will have to say something. I'm a very non-confrontational person and I hate conflict so usually it is my face that "talks".
My comeback would have been as simple as, "Yo? You do remember I am 'Church People,' right? So this is what you think of me?"

And they tend to come back with, "I didn't mean you." In which case I go back with, "Sure you did." And THEN I get up and walk away.

No time for arguments. At best, they come to me later to apologize, and they learn don't pull that card around me. At worse, I find new break room buddies. With that attitude, I'd rather eat alone anyway.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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#9
Yeah good advice, I have thought of changing my break habits...you are right I should've said something like that, I always think of what I should've said after the event. :(