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Galahad

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http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/121490-what-i-need-know.html
That will take you to another thread that will lead you to Hypocrites thread.

Okay.

Those threads inspired me to do some soul searching.

I want to know how I can change my writing tone? I mean, do I seem mean spirited? Hateful? Angry? I hope not.

Any advice, any criticism will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
 

blue_ladybug

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http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/121490-what-i-need-know.html
That will take you to another thread that will lead you to Hypocrites thread.

Okay.

Those threads inspired me to do some soul searching.

I want to know how I can change my writing tone? I mean, do I seem mean spirited? Hateful? Angry? I hope not.

Any advice, any criticism will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Quite honestly, some of your posts don't make sense to me some of the time.. then again, neither do anyone else's.. lol..
 
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Galahad

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blue, when you feel like it, or when you have time, whatever. Would you mind leading me to an example of such a post of mine? It will take you some time because I doubt very much if one really exists. But that don't mean I'm an atheist. I'm not. I just don't believe everything I see or hear or read.

No, seriously, lead me to that one post that is as you say.

Thank you Lady. I really do appreciate it. I hope you find one. Cause it will help me with clarity.
 
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Ugly

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I have put you on ignore a while ago for the way you are in your posts. I was curious about the title of this one so I read it.

That said, I can say first hand that if you convince yourself that there is nothing wrong with the way you post it will only work against you. I took a lot of criticism in the past for how I sounded in my posts. Sometimes I still do, but I put my pride aside and have chosen to hear what people had to say. I denied what people told me for a long time. But they were right.
I'm sure I still don't come across as people think I should. But while I agree I needed to alter my approach, I still am who I am. I didn't change, just tweaked my approach. And I have no doubt there are times when I post as I used to. But I have committed to trying to be more aware that I came off poorly, no matter how well intended I was.
And sometimes it's just knowing that I'm better off saying nothing instead of feeling as though my opinion is required on things. So I try to think through if responding to a post is really worth it or not. This is one of the reasons I post less than I have in the past.
These things may be helpful for you to consider as well. Makes your time on CC more peace I when you soften things up and recognize you don't have to have input into everything. Especially if your input is going to cause a backlash and create division.
 

blue_ladybug

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blue, when you feel like it, or when you have time, whatever. Would you mind leading me to an example of such a post of mine? It will take you some time because I doubt very much if one really exists. But that don't mean I'm an atheist. I'm not. I just don't believe everything I see or hear or read.

No, seriously, lead me to that one post that is as you say.

Thank you Lady. I really do appreciate it. I hope you find one. Cause it will help me with clarity.

This one is from "Render Unto Cesar" in the BDF: First an Ace in the bunker. Then a bird. Now a not so Lady ladybug. Shew.

Ace takes a swing. Ball knocks PW out of the tree. And lands on ladybug. Dead.
Ace go back to the bunker.

You have to keep in mind that alot of us don't go back a few pages and catch up on posts. Sometimes we just respond to the last response or two posted. There are a few other posts but it would take me literally all night to find them. :)

Here are some tips for responding to posts. Know which ones to ignore entirely and not respond to, know which ones to reply to, but THINK before you type, and rehearse your reply in your head first before you hit the "post reply" button. If it sounds stupid, offensive or critical in your head, then that's how it will come across when you type it. If you see a response you don't like, then don't click on that thread to leave a response of your own..Know when to bite your tongue and when to take the foot out of your mouth.

​This applies to EVERYONE, not just you alone.. :)
 
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Galahad

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I have put you on ignore a while ago for the way you are in your posts. I was curious about the title of this one so I read it.

That said, I can say first hand that if you convince yourself that there is nothing wrong with the way you post it will only work against you. I took a lot of criticism in the past for how I sounded in my posts. Sometimes I still do, but I put my pride aside and have chosen to hear what people had to say. I denied what people told me for a long time. But they were right.
I'm sure I still don't come across as people think I should. But while I agree I needed to alter my approach, I still am who I am. I didn't change, just tweaked my approach. And I have no doubt there are times when I post as I used to. But I have committed to trying to be more aware that I came off poorly, no matter how well intended I was.
And sometimes it's just knowing that I'm better off saying nothing instead of feeling as though my opinion is required on things. So I try to think through if responding to a post is really worth it or not. This is one of the reasons I post less than I have in the past.
These things may be helpful for you to consider as well. Makes your time on CC more peace I when you soften things up and recognize you don't have to have input into everything. Especially if your input is going to cause a backlash and create division.
Thank you so much. I very much appreciate your input. Helpful. Great advice. Will apply.
 
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Galahad

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This one is from "Render Unto Cesar" in the BDF: First an Ace in the bunker. Then a bird. Now a not so Lady ladybug. Shew.

Ace takes a swing. Ball knocks PW out of the tree. And lands on ladybug. Dead.
Ace go back to the bunker.

You have to keep in mind that alot of us don't go back a few pages and catch up on posts. Sometimes we just respond to the last response or two posted. There are a few other posts but it would take me literally all night to find them. :)

Here are some tips for responding to posts. Know which ones to ignore entirely and not respond to, know which ones to reply to, but THINK before you type, and rehearse your reply in your head first before you hit the "post reply" button. If it sounds stupid, offensive or critical in your head, then that's how it will come across when you type it. If you see a response you don't like, then don't click on that thread to leave a response of your own..Know when to bite your tongue and when to take the foot out of your mouth.

​This applies to EVERYONE, not just you alone.. :)
Thank you blue. I very much appreciate your advice. Helpful. Will apply.

(Humor is very much part of my posts. Not all, but many. Concerning the Ace, the bird, and lady.
Ace is one of the responders. I called him Ace in the bunker. Usually an ace is "ace in the hole." As in: Hole in one. Golf.
The bird is Peace Warrior. And you are the Lady bug.
I just found a way to commute them together. Just fun. I see how it can be confusing to some first time thread readers.)
 

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I like what you share immensely, but then again, I'm the king of sarcasm. There are times you bang heads with folks and in my brokenness it seems justified, and usually you're sharing grace and supporting your stance with Scripture.

Once you got into it with someone I really like and it bummed me out, but that's going to happen on occasion, and when it does, there is opportunity for grace to be shared as well as opportunity for growth. For instance, I like what Ugly brings to the Table and was surprised he had you on ignore. Hopefully this is a new dawning for your relationship and brotherhood with each other.

Remember, we're imperfect people doing an imperfect job, that's why we live by grace. I'm on the same road regarding tempering my attitude in an effort to be more Christ-like, but the problem is, sometimes I'm overturning the tables in the Temple. Life is a work in progress for all. And remember Brother, if you were perfect, you'd be pretty hard to get along with. :)
 
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atwhatcost

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http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/121490-what-i-need-know.html
That will take you to another thread that will lead you to Hypocrites thread.

Okay.

Those threads inspired me to do some soul searching.

I want to know how I can change my writing tone? I mean, do I seem mean spirited? Hateful? Angry? I hope not.

Any advice, any criticism will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
You ask for it.

Galahad's love towards me. The first thing yu ever said to me.

Wow! What do you base this on?

1. What about the flood in Genesis? Timing or Miraculous?

2. Birth of Isaac? Timing or Miraculous?

3. Here's one closer to the plagues: And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.

Was that timing or miraculous?

4. Was the parting of the Red Sea timing or miraculous?

5. The water from the rock, timing or miraculous?

6. Water to wine, timing or miraculous? (Timing! It was residual red water from the Nile in the days of Egypt. The Israelites saved jars and jars of it for chemical warfare. Eventually storing it in cool caverns. through years various mixings of air, dust, wind, and who knows what else . . . atom, molecules. There the red water became drinkable, and Jesus used some of it for the wine. He himself drank some and about 3 years later after He was crucified and buried in the tomb, that red water brought Him back to life.)

You are in deNIAL of the power of God and His plague upon the NILE.
Stupid part is I gave my evidence several pages before that, so there was no reason to question what I didn't say. I gave you what I had. But, nope, you just had to put me down instead, and no pretend it's my fault.

But your rage wasn't done so you quoted your own post to keep it going --

Atwhatcost,

And since you are in blatant deNIAL of the power of God upon the NILE, I will henceforth read your posts with a tremendous amount, a superabundance of caution and reservation.

And here's a 7th
Do you believe in the swoon theory of Jesus' resurrection?
You whine about it right after giving Willie a rough time and play innocent.

I think I'm on numerous ignore lists. I know atwhatcost has me on her list. She said so. I've only put one person on my ignore list. That was a female. First she posted inappropriate statements on a thread. Then she sent me an email that was inappropriate. So I put her on ignore.

I don't want to be on atwhatcost's ignore list. But I'm stuck from it.

Since I am on an ignore list, does that make me an ignoramus?

Apparently you do know how to be nice, but what you teach, you don't do.

Zoii,

PW is twice your age.

My age is public info. also.

The type of clothing that I see preteens, teens, and young adult females wearing covers no more than the details. That's not an exaggeration. Not here in So Cal.
The standard of dress today is Less is More.
I only mention those things to show the difference in judgment as to what is modest and what is not.
Hopefully, no one will ask for proof. Foools! Sick O's!

First, my concern is that you learn what you can from PW's comments.
Second, let's assume your conclusion about PW's post and the immodest angel is correct. What of it, then? What if he meant what you say? So what's the big deal? You're going to get that sort of thing the rest of your life. You will.
Third, what will you do about it? Think about not reacting or responding. In other words, just wait. Think about all that PW wrote. If you are angry, don't respond.
If you just can't wait, put your disagreement up after you've prayed. Then post your disagreement in the form of questions, and in statements that reveal your intention of your avatar and art.

Example: "PW, I feel hurt, a bit terribly insulted by your post..." "PW, I'm angry. Yes, at you, but I want to get this cleared up." Stuff like that.

What your eyes see in your art collection, is not what the eye of boy or even a young man sees. Those eyes will be caught by the picture.

What you see as beauty, he will be caught by. His mind will see what his hormones lead him to see. Okay. Not all, but most boys and young men and some older.

You're a young girl 15. PW is a 31 male. Big difference in what you see and what he knows.

So then, Pray about your pain. Pray about your anger.

Perhaps you and PW can fix things through PMs.
You make senseless request and harp, knowing you're ignored.

atwhatcost, You can prove me wrong by taking me off your ignore list! That would make your day. Please. atwhatcost will it be for me to be removed from your ignore list?
And it's not just me you nag to. It's everyone who has ignored you. You're like a little dog nipping at our heels. Like we're some kind of conquest. All. You. Need. To. Do. Is. Have. Us. Notice. YOU! And then everything is all right. Which, from my experience means you can go right back to insulting me. Sometimes you do so even when I have you ignored, and you play the victim, like you have no idea what could have possibly gone wrong.

Jenibean, Am I on your ignore list? I hope not. I don't want to be if I am. What did I do? I can change. I will. I promise. I hope you remove me from your ignore list. Did I say I?
And you think this is sincerity?

The thing is, I just don't know how to respond to arrogance. Plus, I do kid around a lot. I do.
You know, I will try to tone things down. Okay.

I will try to remember "A soft answer turneth away wrath."

One time I apologized to a fellow member. She became so inflamed. She did. Accused me of not being sincere.
In the mean time, she's posting all sorts of hard and smart mouth responses.

I am not referring to ATWC. Okay. It was someone else. So, even if an apology is made, BAM! KABOOM! POW! FIRE AWAY! We have a weak one. Destroy him.
Even if it is, really? I "deNail" God?

I'll take you off ignore when you grow up. I check to see if you have, but I keep finding evidence, not only haven't you, but you do this same thing to many, and always, always play the victim.

Clear enough? You asked.
 
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Galahad

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You ask for it.

Galahad's love towards me. The first thing yu ever said to me.


Stupid part is I gave my evidence several pages before that, so there was no reason to question what I didn't say. I gave you what I had. But, nope, you just had to put me down instead, and no pretend it's my fault.

But your rage wasn't done so you quoted your own post to keep it going --



You whine about it right after giving Willie a rough time and play innocent.




Apparently you do know how to be nice, but what you teach, you don't do.



You make senseless request and harp, knowing you're ignored.



And it's not just me you nag to. It's everyone who has ignored you. You're like a little dog nipping at our heels. Like we're some kind of conquest. All. You. Need. To. Do. Is. Have. Us. Notice. YOU! And then everything is all right. Which, from my experience means you can go right back to insulting me. Sometimes you do so even when I have you ignored, and you play the victim, like you have no idea what could have possibly gone wrong.



And you think this is sincerity?



Even if it is, really? I "deNail" God?

I'll take you off ignore when you grow up. I check to see if you have, but I keep finding evidence, not only haven't you, but you do this same thing to many, and always, always play the victim.

Clear enough? You asked.
Those posts about whether or not I'm not on someone's ignore list were meant to be funny. I thought the content would show that. To me, they are funny. That's what I intended them to be. Funny. The same applies to the posts about asking if I was on someone's ignore list. Several words in those posts indicate humor. I even suggested I am an ignoramus for being on an ignore list.

My first post ever addressed to one of your posts. That's what I don't understand. How should a person respond to claims or statements that discredit the truth? I don't see any personal attacks toward you in my response.

Concerning the post to the immodest dress. I was trying to help the young girl. What is wrong with what I wrote?

If I post something and it seems rude or belittling, let me know. I will clarify.

atwhatcost, I am sorry for making you feel insulted. I did not intend to insult you. Galahad.
 

blue_ladybug

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Galahad, sometimes when we write funny stuff, WE might think it's funny, but to others it might come across as criticizing or sarcastic or sound like we're making fun of them. Now, the posts you made to Lynn, knowing full well she has you on ignore, were unnecessary to make. Usually if someone has a person on ignore, they don't bother to read that person's posts. However, Lynn is nosy, which she has admitted on here more than once..lol..

I read alot of her posts, and many of them are blatantly sarcastic. I've seen numerous responses to her because others felt that level of sarcasm was un-necessary. Maybe she means for her sarcasm to be funny, but what's funny to one person is NOT always funny to another. And that's why some people take offense to her posts. Many people here keep saying that you can't hear the tone of the words, nor the actions of the writer. That's true, and as I said before, we ALL need to stop and think before we post a response. Rehearse your response in your head. If it sounds rude, sarcastic or stupid to YOU, then most likely that's how others will take it as well. If you feel you can't reply WITHOUT being rude, obnoxious or whatever, then simply don't reply.. It's that simple..
 
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Siberian_Khatru

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You and I bumped heads once in the Young Adults Forum. Whatever, right? That's what people do.

It was nothing worth blacklisting you over, but my first impressions of you were that:

1) You have a fairly sharp mind
2) You're contentious

Water over the dam, though. It's cool of you to ask here what you can do to better your character. All the best, Gal.
 
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atwhatcost

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Those posts about whether or not I'm not on someone's ignore list were meant to be funny. I thought the content would show that. To me, they are funny. That's what I intended them to be. Funny. The same applies to the posts about asking if I was on someone's ignore list. Several words in those posts indicate humor. I even suggested I am an ignoramus for being on an ignore list.

My first post ever addressed to one of your posts. That's what I don't understand. How should a person respond to claims or statements that discredit the truth? I don't see any personal attacks toward you in my response.

Concerning the post to the immodest dress. I was trying to help the young girl. What is wrong with what I wrote?

If I post something and it seems rude or belittling, let me know. I will clarify.

atwhatcost, I am sorry for making you feel insulted. I did not intend to insult you. Galahad.
And, once again, you go for defense. I was just kidding/it is humor. Are you an older brother? And, if you are, did you tease your siblings unmercifully and then clump it into "I was just kidding?" Really doesn't work as the younger sibling. Never did. Especially given you give permission for everyone else to do the same thing -- make fun of certain people. Always just those certain people! I can name two others you do that to often enough, but won't because it's NOT all right, and doesn't suddenly become all right if you just say your kidding afterward.

That was NOT my first post. Still making excuses for yourself. I told you, I explained what I meant several pages before that. And, you're right, you don't understand. Why not? Because you planted your judgement on me before you even found out what I meant. What's to understand? You came, you judged, you final verdicted. This is you! This is you over and over again.

Nothing changed. Even saying you would change, proves nothing has changed. Ugly (I really hate calling him Ugly - not accurate and feels bad to encourage that name, I like him) described the problem here already. You won't/don't see any problems with being you, so why change? The only problem you see is some have ignored you, and honestly? You make it out to being our problem, not yours.

Ignore is a two-way street. There are advantages for you too. I could do this to you all the time. I ignore you so I don't. I have a grand total of two reasons to ignore someone:
1. They ignore everything I have to say. (aka They don't listen. And, again, listen does NOT require agreement. It has to do with hearing enough of someone else to decide if you do or don't agree.)

2. They're stepping on my last nerve, and it's ready to fall off. Even my friends and family, even my hubby, can get on my last nerve. I can push until I go off on them. Or I can walk away until I regain some of my nerve back. I choose the latter whenever I'm smart enough to notice I'm ready to go off. (I don't always notice, which is a problem.) And when I calm down enough, I realize it wasn't them; it was me. Then I'm ready to un-ignore. I just checked my friend's list. I've had three friends ignored some time since I've been on this site.

So, now you know why I ignore you. Back to ignore.
 
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atwhatcost

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Galahad, sometimes when we write funny stuff, WE might think it's funny, but to others it might come across as criticizing or sarcastic or sound like we're making fun of them. Now, the posts you made to Lynn, knowing full well she has you on ignore, were unnecessary to make. Usually if someone has a person on ignore, they don't bother to read that person's posts. However, Lynn is nosy, which she has admitted on here more than once..lol..

I read alot of her posts, and many of them are blatantly sarcastic. I've seen numerous responses to her because others felt that level of sarcasm was un-necessary. Maybe she means for her sarcasm to be funny, but what's funny to one person is NOT always funny to another. And that's why some people take offense to her posts. Many people here keep saying that you can't hear the tone of the words, nor the actions of the writer. That's true, and as I said before, we ALL need to stop and think before we post a response. Rehearse your response in your head. If it sounds rude, sarcastic or stupid to YOU, then most likely that's how others will take it as well. If you feel you can't reply WITHOUT being rude, obnoxious or whatever, then simply don't reply.. It's that simple..
Just so you know, (as in another piece of the puzzle that is me), I am sarcastic. I'm not sarcastic as often as you think. So you can see this clearly, take a look at everything I just said on this thread. Sarcasm was not used even once. I'm also bluntly honest, which some think is me being sarcastic (and only people online, because there's some visual tell I must give off in person, that doesn't come off online. I just don't know what it is.) My sarcasm usually goes into a little or a lot of hyperbole.

It looks something like this:
Moi? I am never, ever, ever sarcastic! <-----lot of hyperbole.
I have patience down to a science. <---------little hyperbole.

That's my kind of sarcastic.
 
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Galahad

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And, once again, you go for defense. I was just kidding/it is humor. Are you an older brother? And, if you are, did you tease your siblings unmercifully and then clump it into "I was just kidding?" Really doesn't work as the younger sibling. Never did. Especially given you give permission for everyone else to do the same thing -- make fun of certain people. Always just those certain people! I can name two others you do that to often enough, but won't because it's NOT all right, and doesn't suddenly become all right if you just say your kidding afterward.

That was NOT my first post. Still making excuses for yourself. I told you, I explained what I meant several pages before that. And, you're right, you don't understand. Why not? Because you planted your judgement on me before you even found out what I meant. What's to understand? You came, you judged, you final verdicted. This is you! This is you over and over again.

Nothing changed. Even saying you would change, proves nothing has changed. Ugly (I really hate calling him Ugly - not accurate and feels bad to encourage that name, I like him) described the problem here already. You won't/don't see any problems with being you, so why change? The only problem you see is some have ignored you, and honestly? You make it out to being our problem, not yours.

Ignore is a two-way street. There are advantages for you too. I could do this to you all the time. I ignore you so I don't. I have a grand total of two reasons to ignore someone:
1. They ignore everything I have to say. (aka They don't listen. And, again, listen does NOT require agreement. It has to do with hearing enough of someone else to decide if you do or don't agree.)

2. They're stepping on my last nerve, and it's ready to fall off. Even my friends and family, even my hubby, can get on my last nerve. I can push until I go off on them. Or I can walk away until I regain some of my nerve back. I choose the latter whenever I'm smart enough to notice I'm ready to go off. (I don't always notice, which is a problem.) And when I calm down enough, I realize it wasn't them; it was me. Then I'm ready to un-ignore. I just checked my friend's list. I've had three friends ignored some time since I've been on this site.

So, now you know why I ignore you. Back to ignore.
Wow! Did I step on a landmine or what! I just wanted some criticism. Not fiery wrath. I explained. Clarified.
 
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atwhatcost

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Wow! Did I step on a landmine or what! I just wanted some criticism. Not fiery wrath. I explained. Clarified.
Yup. My fault again. Never ever your fault. Can't change when you're faultless. Good strategy. Now, kindly quit asking why you're ignored. Otherwise you do see me fiery, and this wasn't even smoldering, once more fiery.
 
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Galahad

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Galahad

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breath fire.jpg

Would you at least allow me to remove my knight's armor first? Please! :eek:

but I think the next smiley will be seared as well. :mad:
 

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My question would be why ask for human criticism? I would rather be justly swatted by God across the room than to be a victim of peoples self-addressed godliness. Many numbers does not equate wisdom. But maybe God would have some to help.

In your post #3 in here you went from a pliable person to a pretentious one then back- in the same posting. God has told us to wrap truth around our loins. Truth in not trying to live what we wish we were but are not yet, and truth in not living in what we don't want to be but want to cover up attempting to fool God and others and even ourselves. God needs all of us to be REAL! Not to mean really bad either, unless we start there and need to confess it.. I don't lay any judgement on you in this but say that as simply truth taught in Scripture for us all.

If we have become bitter and sour, it is because when God gave us a blessing we hoarded it. Yet, if we had poured it out to Him, we would have been the sweetest person on earth. If you are always keeping blessings to yourself and never learning to pour out anything "to the Lord," other people will never have their vision of God expanded thru you. Be mindful of trying to protect your right to yourself in way of arguments of right and wrong. Have you taken whatever God is pouring into your living water well in to yourself simply to satisfy yourself? If you have then you cannot pour it out to the Lord.

"He would not drink it, but poured it out to the Lord." 2 Samuel 23:16. Don't defend sarcasm, pour it out to the Lord. If He returns it then use it to lift people up to Him confidently, but if the Holy Spirit checks it, listen immediately, and pour it out once again. There is our counsel, there is the better counsel: God has direct counsel thru Christ's example in way of His life here and the Word which lives and breaths in us in the real-time relationship with the Holy Spirit. Pray my friend, pray hard! I will join you. Both for you and myself. Pray for me. and pour out what God gives you: Hoard not!
 
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Utah

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Galahad, always remember this:

I've read the Bible several times, and Matthew a hundred times, and I never understood what Jesus means when He says that unless our righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees, we will not enter the Kingdom of Heaven. YOU, my Brother, are the one who clarified that for me, that having faith in Jesus is the righteousness He demands. Since then, I have shared your wisdom with others. Thank you for being a blessing to me and many others.