ARE YOU EMERGENT?

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After some discussion about the Emergent Church here the other day, I dug out an old book I had on the subject (one of many) by Kevin DeYoung & Ted Kluck, "Why We're Not Emergent, By Two Guys Who Should Be."

This is in one of the opening paragraphs. Thought some of you might get a kick out of it.

ARE YOU EMERGENT?​

After reading nearly five thousand pages of emerging-church literature, I have no doubt that the emerging church, while loosely defined and far from uniform, can be described and critiqued as a diverse, but recognizable movement. You might be an emergent Christian: if you listen to U2, Moby, and Johnny Cash's Hurt (sometimes in church), use sermon illustrations from The Sopranos, drink lattes in the afternoon and Guinness in the evenings, and always use a Mac; if your reading list consists primarily of Stanley Hauerwas, Henri Nouwen, N. T. Wright, Stan Grenz, Dallas Willard, Brennan Manning, Jim Wallis, Frederick Buechner, David Bosch, John Howard Yoder, Wendell Berry, Nancy Murphy, John Franke, Walter Winks and Lesslie Newbigin (not to mention McLaren, Pagitt, Bell, etc.) and your sparring partners include D. A. Carson, John Calvin, Martyn Lloyd-Jones, and Wayne Grudem; if your idea of quintessential Christian discipleship is Mother Teresa, Martin Luther King Jr., Nelson Mandela, or Desmond Tutu; if you don't like George W. Bush or institu¬tions or big business or capitalism or Left Behind Christianity; if your political concerns are poverty, AIDS, imperialism, war-mongering, CEO salaries, consumerism, global warming, racism, and oppression and not so much abortion and gay marriage; if you are into bohemian, goth, rave, or indie; if you talk about the myth of redemptive violence and the myth of certainty; if you lie awake at night having nightmares about all the ways modernism has ruined your life; if you love the Bible as a beautiful, inspiring collection of works that lead us into the mystery of God but is not inerrant; if you search for truth but aren't sure it can be found; if you've ever been to a church with prayer labyrinths, candles, Play-Doh, chalk-drawings, couches, or beanbags (your youth group doesn't count); if you loathe words like linear, propositional, rational, machine, and hierarchy and use words like ancient-future, jazz, mosaic, matrix, missional, vintage, and dance; if you grew up in a very conservative Christian home that in retrospect seems legalistic, naive, and rigid; if you support women in all levels of ministry, prioritize urban over suburban, and like your theology narrative instead of systematic; if you disbelieve in any sacred-secular divide; if you want to be the church and not just go to church; if you long for a community that is relational, tribal, and primal like a river or a garden; if you believe doctrine gets in the way of an interactive relationship with Jesus; if you believe who goes to hell is no one's business and no one may be there anyway; if you believe salvation has a little to do with atoning for guilt and a lot to do with bringing the whole creation back into shalom with its Maker; if you believe fol¬lowing Jesus is not believing the right things but living the right way; if it really bugs you when people talk about going to heaven instead of heaven coming to us; if you disdain monological, didactic preaching; if you use the word "story" in all your propositions about postmodernism - if all or most of this tortuously long sentence describes you, then you might be an emergent Christian.
 
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Sounds like lot of social gospel to me.
 

JesusLives

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I'm an introvert......with extroverted tendencies....
 
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I'm batting about 500 on that list.
 
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Kinda like ten ways to be cool and still be a Chrisitan.

1. Get a tattoo but make sure it's a Hebrew word for something spiritual.
2. Spike your hair but only with gel that is not made in sweat shops.
3. Share your faith but only if somebody brings it up first.
4. Read only gender neutral versions of Scripture that are available for the iPhone.
5. Only drink coffee made with beans grown by monks, sold by orphans and brewed by believers.
6. Go on a mission trip for Jesus without ever sharing the message of Jesus.
7. Tweet only Bono quotes.
8. Shop at The Buckle (even if your 46 years old.)
9. Never get into spiritual conversations with unsaved people about sin, hell, or anything awkward.
10. Never use the word "unsaved" when describing somebody who is lost….But don't use the word "lost" either…just call them "pre-Christian" or "seekers" or "the yet-to-be regenerate" or something…I don't know. Forget it.
 

JesusLives

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How about a divergent Christian?.... you don't care who you share the gospel with as long as they get to hear it.
 

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One thing I loathe about Christianity (or the attitude of some Christians rather) is the wide spread expectation by people to be something, that is usually what you are not.
 
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One thing I loathe about Christianity (or the attitude of some Christians rather) is the wide spread expectation by people to be something, that is usually what you are not.
You've serendipitously hit upon what is seemingly the main complaint about The Emergent Church... that they have not published a definitive "statement" that detractors can tear apart to their satisfaction.
 

Joidevivre

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It sounds easier to stay in the cocoon stage.