Women in Leadership

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Too much to read on the day after a tiring day. But, I would only mention that the leader of a church is the Lord Jesus Christ and His message. The Holy Spirit chooses who is to bring that message.

The message is the important thing. And for any cultures where women speaking that message would block that message from being received, then women should not do so. Hopefully, in our culture, with a better understanding of the scriptural examples all the way from Deborah to the first sermon given by Jesus to a woman "Go and tell them that I have risen", we would not put blocks up from receiving the message.

If only we could get past looking at the "vessel" or person, and really listen to the message.
 
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Joidevivre said:
Too much to read on the day after a tiring day. But, I would only mention that the leader of a church is the Lord Jesus Christ and His message. The Holy Spirit chooses who is to bring that message.

The message is the important thing. And for any cultures where women speaking that message would block that message from being received, then women should not do so. Hopefully, in our culture, with a better understanding of the scriptural examples all the way from Deborah to the first sermon given by Jesus to a woman "Go and tell them that I have risen", we would not put blocks up from receiving the message.

If only we could get past looking at the "vessel" or person, and really listen to the message.
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Just about exactly what the article's author said.
 
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I don't have time to read this, but from the little I've read I'd just like to say that:

1. Women are equal to men and not inferior, but they are each given diverse roles, and are not the same.
2. While women can occupy some leadership roles they should not teach men in a religious sense (I Timothy 2)
3. Dorthy Sayers is NOT a Christian author :p lol
 
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Tinuviel said:
I don't have time to read this, but from the little I've read I'd just like to say that:

1. Women are equal to men and not inferior, but they are each given diverse roles, and are not the same.
2. While women can occupy some leadership roles they should not teach men in a religious sense (I Timothy 2)
3. Dorthy Sayers is NOT a Christian author :p lol
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Ran across this somewhere....

Ironically, it was after a moral failure that her life as a religious writer blossomed. In 1937 she was asked to write a play for the Canterbury Festival. This play, The Zeal of Thy House, was followed by a series of BBC radio plays titled The Man Born to Be King. Then followed a series of essays and books on specifically Christian themes, including Begin Here, The Mind of the Maker, and Creed or Chaos?, which quickly established her as one of the foremost Christian apologists of her generation.

Not sure what it takes to qualify as a "Christian" writer..............
 
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The "shotgun" replies from off the tops of your heads don't do much. Read the Position Paper (article), and you might have a more informed and accurate idea of what is being discussed.
 
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Willie-T said:
Ran across this somewhere....

Ironically, it was after a moral failure that her life as a religious writer blossomed. In 1937 she was asked to write a play for the Canterbury Festival. This play, The Zeal of Thy House, was followed by a series of BBC radio plays titled The Man Born to Be King. Then followed a series of essays and books on specifically Christian themes, including Begin Here, The Mind of the Maker, and Creed or Chaos?, which quickly established her as one of the foremost Christian apologists of her generation.

Not sure what it takes to qualify as a "Christian" writer..............
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Ok, I've been doing some looking up and she was Catholic. I've read some of her mystery novels, which aren't very Christian! But perhaps her religious works were later in life? I'm not sure...I guess C. S. Lewis was surrounded by Catholic friends! :)
 
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Tinuviel said:
I don't have time to read this, but from the little I've read I'd just like to say that:

1. Women are equal to men and not inferior, but they are each given diverse roles, and are not the same.
2. While women can occupy some leadership roles they should not teach men in a religious sense (I Timothy 2)
3. Dorthy Sayers is NOT a Christian author :p lol
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I expect men to make such statements, but I am always amused when women do here no the Forums......They must not realize that they are addressing their comment to a man maybe? And, in so doing, they are TEACHING him? Funny :)
 
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p_rehbein said:
I expect men to make such statements, but I am always amused when women do here no the Forums......They must not realize that they are addressing their comment to a man maybe? And, in so doing, they are TEACHING him? Funny :)
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The irony IS amusing.
 
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p_rehbein said:
I expect men to make such statements, but I am always amused when women do here no the Forums......They must not realize that they are addressing their comment to a man maybe? And, in so doing, they are TEACHING him? Funny :)
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I never really thought of this as teaching, more of just a discussion, so I'm very sorry if I overstepped my bounds. If I've offended anyone, please forgive me.
 
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Tinuviel said:
I never really thought of this as teaching, more of just a discussion, so I'm very sorry if I overstepped my bounds. If I've offended anyone, please forgive me.
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No offense taken. But it is rather appreciated to read an article first to see if it agrees with your opinion, or not... or even if what you might throw in the mix was ever being discussed in the first place.
 
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Tinuviel said:
I never really thought of this as teaching, more of just a discussion, so I'm very sorry if I overstepped my bounds. If I've offended anyone, please forgive me.
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No offense, just seeing the humor of it. :)
 
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