Honesty is the best policy? Or should i just stop telling the truth.

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Feb 21, 2012
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We live in a world where people hate the truth. Even christians the real and the fake ones. I grew up in a rough neighborhood. My friends never told me what I wanted to hear or what was pleasant to my ears, they always kept it real with me. They didn't care if the truth embarrassed me, or how unpleasant it was they just told it like it is. They were not christians but they were for the most part some pretty thorough stand up guys with good hearts. They just understood. we live in a brutal cold world so they showed tough love with me and each other. Some might even call them bullies by the way they treated their own friends, but I think hanging with them only made me a better person.

Their way of dealing with each other rubbed off on me and I must say this is a good thing and a bad thing.
I tend to be brutally honest with others, even i it is an unpleasant truth. I have an uncanny superpower of thinking outside of the box, and I tend to tell it like it is, even if that's not what people want to hear.

The cons of this

You tend to have less friends, because the majority of people want you to tell them what makes them feel good rather than what the truth is.
You have more enemies, because some people are so fragile and insecure they can't handle the truth.

The Pros of this
When you do make friends they tend to be more thorough an higher quality. Lovers of truth. Usually the opposite of cowardly.
They tend to be more righteous and real then the average person.

I tend to avoid people that I don't like. When I tell the truth it is for 2 reasons. I love you and I want you to be the best person you can be and I want you to accept what you need to hear not what is pleasant to your ears.

Its either that or I feel righteous indignation towards a person then my truth comes out in a passionate way. For example if someone is a racist and they are spouting racist rhetoric to deceive others. I will tell the truth to protect the naive so they won't be decived and also I will tell the deceiver about theirselves because I feel so disgusted by their deception, disguised bigotry and the lies they tell. That's just an example/
If I don't tell you the truth, and I tell you what you want to hear, it means basically one thing. I probably don't like you in fact I may even despise you. I probably see you as an evil weakling that will probably get mad at the truth if I tell it like it is. so I turn my charm switch on. I don't charm people I love I charm people I don't like. That would probably cause me problems if I told them the truth.


Life is much harder for people like me. The truth makes people hate you. It makes you many enemies. It got Jesus crucified.

It makes you stronger, but at the same time it causes you alot of problems. You make enemies. Not only that when you keep it real all the time you have less friends because most people like to surrround theirselves with people that whisper sweet lullabies in their ears that aren't based on the truth.

I think if I just was less honest, then I'd have more friends and less problems. I do have friends but they are few and far in between and they are usually like me. Tough as nails, and keep it real type of people. Should I just stop being so brutally honest with the people, and also defending the truth when the wicked people spread lies to further whatever agenda they have? I have found that the majority of people even christians are like sheep. They base their views and opinions whether falsehoods or not based on whatever the majority goes along with because they want to be accepted. They are scared to keep it real because then, maybe people won't like them. I've always been cool with speaking the truth, and being rejected. I feel like most people don't know how to be 100 percent honest with theirselves and others, because they will either not be accpeted by whoever the majority is, or they will catch flack for their honesty. To be bluntly honest I feel like most people that have alot of friends are the opposite of me. They tend to want people to like them so they hold out on telling the truth to be accepted. Of course their are exceptions to the rule. For example, a beautiful women that has alot of friends, because she get alot of male attention for her physical assets. lol. Or guy that is famous or poular so people want to be his friend because they think it will increase their social status.

Should I just stop being so honest. Or should I stay the same person I've always been and keep it real with people. Because I'm not bragging or anything, but their are few people out in society that are like me. Most people don't keep it real to the extent I do. I feel like being so honest even i it makes people dislike me has turned me into somewhat of an outcast in society. People either love and respect me for it or they get insecure or mad. Should I just be quiet, and curb the truth, and have alot of friends and less enemies or should I stay telling it like it is have less friends and alot of enemies.

P.s. I don,t mean if my wife asks me if she looks fa,t I tell her Yes. Or if a woman cooks for me I tell her that the food is nasty. Not that kind of honesty. I mean giving people what they need rather than they like. It's kind of like eating healthy. Junk food tastes better, but it will make you unhealthy and obese. Eating healthy and excersizing isn't fun but it will help you live longer and will make you healthy and strong. Should I start giving people the junk food they want or should I give them the less tasty, but more healthy TRUTH.
 

RickyZ

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I think presenting the truth in a loving way is better than tickling ears with falsehoods. The gray area comes in, do you just stay silent and not say anything?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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It can be a good thing

the danger is that you risk thinking that your personal opinion is the truth :)

The bible instructs us to guide and correct our brothers, but to do it in love :) (and to mind ourselves first).
If we manage to be sure we are not just giving our own opinion, act humbly and in love, I think it works. Most of the time.
 
Feb 21, 2012
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It can be a good thing

the danger is that you risk thinking that your personal opinion is the truth :)

The bible instructs us to guide and correct our brothers, but to do it in love :) (and to mind ourselves first).
If we manage to be sure we are not just giving our own opinion, act humbly and in love, I think it works. Most of the time.
sounds good to me. I can be harsh at times maybe I need to work on that and be more gentle with people. I just can be passionate when I beleive people are not being honest. I guess I just need to use more finesse and finesse the truth into people rather than being blunt. I'm used to people being blunt with me so I tend to be that way with others.
 
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I think presenting the truth in a loving way is better than tickling ears with falsehoods. The gray area comes in, do you just stay silent and not say anything?
I do not know what u mean. Stay silent in what situations?
 

RickyZ

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There was a movie a while back where a guy was put in peril because he thought that a ringing phone HAD to be answered. In the same way, not all questions HAVE to be answered. If you're in a situation where the truth will bring discord, yet the falsehood would lead them astray, silence might be the best response.
 
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There was a movie a while back where a guy was put in peril because he thought that a ringing phone HAD to be answered. In the same way, not all questions HAVE to be answered. If you're in a situation where the truth will bring discord, yet the falsehood would lead them astray, silence might be the best response.
That's a good point. Sometimes I get passionate about certain issues if you know what I mean, but I guess I should lean toward what is in my best interest is some situations.
 

Reborn

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P.s. I don,t mean if my wife asks me if she looks fat I tell her Yes. Or if a woman cooks for me I tell her that the food is nasty. Not that kind of honesty.
You're a smart guy.
Honesty is the best policy.



...unless being honest is going to get you a night on the couch.
 
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We live in a world where people hate the truth. Even christians the real and the fake ones. I grew up in a rough neighborhood. My friends never told me what I wanted to hear or what was pleasant to my ears, they always kept it real with me. They didn't care if the truth embarrassed me, or how unpleasant it was they just told it like it is. They were not christians but they were for the most part some pretty thorough stand up guys with good hearts. They just understood. we live in a brutal cold world so they showed tough love with me and each other. Some might even call them bullies by the way they treated their own friends, but I think hanging with them only made me a better person.

Their way of dealing with each other rubbed off on me and I must say this is a good thing and a bad thing.
I tend to be brutally honest with others, even i it is an unpleasant truth. I have an uncanny superpower of thinking outside of the box, and I tend to tell it like it is, even if that's not what people want to hear.

The cons of this

You tend to have less friends, because the majority of people want you to tell them what makes them feel good rather than what the truth is.
You have more enemies, because some people are so fragile and insecure they can't handle the truth.

The Pros of this
When you do make friends they tend to be more thorough an higher quality. Lovers of truth. Usually the opposite of cowardly.
They tend to be more righteous and real then the average person.

I tend to avoid people that I don't like. When I tell the truth it is for 2 reasons. I love you and I want you to be the best person you can be and I want you to accept what you need to hear not what is pleasant to your ears.

Its either that or I feel righteous indignation towards a person then my truth comes out in a passionate way. For example if someone is a racist and they are spouting racist rhetoric to deceive others. I will tell the truth to protect the naive so they won't be decived and also I will tell the deceiver about theirselves because I feel so disgusted by their deception, disguised bigotry and the lies they tell. That's just an example/
If I don't tell you the truth, and I tell you what you want to hear, it means basically one thing. I probably don't like you in fact I may even despise you. I probably see you as an evil weakling that will probably get mad at the truth if I tell it like it is. so I turn my charm switch on. I don't charm people I love I charm people I don't like. That would probably cause me problems if I told them the truth.


Life is much harder for people like me. The truth makes people hate you. It makes you many enemies. It got Jesus crucified.

It makes you stronger, but at the same time it causes you alot of problems. You make enemies. Not only that when you keep it real all the time you have less friends because most people like to surrround theirselves with people that whisper sweet lullabies in their ears that aren't based on the truth.

I think if I just was less honest, then I'd have more friends and less problems. I do have friends but they are few and far in between and they are usually like me. Tough as nails, and keep it real type of people. Should I just stop being so brutally honest with the people, and also defending the truth when the wicked people spread lies to further whatever agenda they have? I have found that the majority of people even christians are like sheep. They base their views and opinions whether falsehoods or not based on whatever the majority goes along with because they want to be accepted. They are scared to keep it real because then, maybe people won't like them. I've always been cool with speaking the truth, and being rejected. I feel like most people don't know how to be 100 percent honest with theirselves and others, because they will either not be accpeted by whoever the majority is, or they will catch flack for their honesty. To be bluntly honest I feel like most people that have alot of friends are the opposite of me. They tend to want people to like them so they hold out on telling the truth to be accepted. Of course their are exceptions to the rule. For example, a beautiful women that has alot of friends, because she get alot of male attention for her physical assets. lol. Or guy that is famous or poular so people want to be his friend because they think it will increase their social status.

Should I just stop being so honest. Or should I stay the same person I've always been and keep it real with people. Because I'm not bragging or anything, but their are few people out in society that are like me. Most people don't keep it real to the extent I do. I feel like being so honest even i it makes people dislike me has turned me into somewhat of an outcast in society. People either love and respect me for it or they get insecure or mad. Should I just be quiet, and curb the truth, and have alot of friends and less enemies or should I stay telling it like it is have less friends and alot of enemies.

P.s. I don,t mean if my wife asks me if she looks fa,t I tell her Yes. Or if a woman cooks for me I tell her that the food is nasty. Not that kind of honesty. I mean giving people what they need rather than they like. It's kind of like eating healthy. Junk food tastes better, but it will make you unhealthy and obese. Eating healthy and excersizing isn't fun but it will help you live longer and will make you healthy and strong. Should I start giving people the junk food they want or should I give them the less tasty, but more healthy TRUTH.
You're 29 and claim you can think outside the box. So, how come you can't come up with your own answer here? (Guess which way I lean on this question. lol)
 
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It can be a good thing

the danger is that you risk thinking that your personal opinion is the truth :)

The bible instructs us to guide and correct our brothers, but to do it in love :) (and to mind ourselves first).
If we manage to be sure we are not just giving our own opinion, act humbly and in love, I think it works. Most of the time.
This stands out so glaringly on this forum. It comes across as, "I have decided such and such is right, so you are wrong." "There can be no interpretation but the one I have made."
 
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Miri

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Two things come to mind

1) learn to pick your battles, some things are just not worth bothering over. I was
watching a programme on TV the other night about two good friends who fell out
over a wheely bin of all things. The arguments got very heated as each felt they
were right and both wanted the last word.



2) this verse also came to mind
Micah 6:8 NLT
[8] No, O people, the LORD has told you what is good, and this is what he requires of
you: to do what is right, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.



Note doing what is right does not always entail telling others what is right (says me :)).
We can only testify to what is right or demonstrate it with our lives then sit back and let
the Holy Spirit do the rest. Only the Holy Spirit can convict a person.
...but there again I may be wrong....might it be that you also get it wrong at times, I
know I do.:)
 
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Tinuviel

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Honesty is imperative, lying is a sin. However, that being said, there are ways to say the truth nicely, or simply not get involved. When you look at Christ, there really are only a few times when he got mad started shouting at people. We're shown that there IS a time for that, but not often! mostly, he told them the truth even though he knew it would sting, but he didn't get fiery.
 

SparkleEyes

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Food for thought:

Why do we think WE have cornered the market on 'the truth'?

Why do we think WE are the ones to tell 'the truth'?

Why do we think WE are the ones to tell 'the truth' at that moment?

Are you sure what you want to say is from Jesus?

No one has 'the truth' all of the time....or maybe even some of the time.
 
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planitsoon

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Absolutely !!! Phil38111.

Proverbs 27:6 says:clearly " Faithful are the wounds of a friend but many are the kisses of an enemy"!. Jesus LOVED ENOUGH to tell the young rich ruler the truth. I was a spectator as a small kid and as a teenager looking through all the facade and peer pressure and the blablabla. I chose back then to always be myself and go for truth, never play the game. I make sure if I ask somebody how they are gong that I make time and am prepared to listen when somebody wants to share their heart and not use it superficially. "Hey, how are you doing. Good man, always man, always!!!"

If my wife asks a question she asks for either my honest opinion or the truth as a fact because she wants to know, she doesn't aks because she is insecure and needs confirmation in what she already knows duh. And she often says that if you cannot even rely on your husband in marriage to tell you the truth, what foundation has that marriage then? She expects from me (and I from her) that I won't let her walk like a fool around town in aweful clothing lol.

But indeed, you loose friends over the truth not matter what kind of truth be it Gods Word or other things in life as many like to keep living in their home made bubble. Christians lie in your face to stay courteous to us as they apparently are so insecure themselves to face rejection if they come up with the most pleasant answer and the two diseases, politcal correctness and psychology haven't made it easier to tell the truth.

Yes, we can package the truth a soften things up a bit and adjust it to our audience but Never to extend where details go lost that would change that message. You explain hard things different to a child than to an adult. My own kids sometimes say they are not always happy with all the information that we give them on how the world runs in regards to greedy industries in every level of society and that people are disposable but they say that they are also happy that knowledge is power and they know how to protect themselves and take wise steps in this world.

They know how to take ownership over their own lives and just like Jesus said, to be cautious as snakes and gentle as doves. To love someone is to tell him the truth and white lies are still coming out of that same pit. That's why Jesus said, one thing you lack and not. no, you're fine, you kept all the commandments and you are almost there to win this race! Jesus loved and healed people and sometimes told them AFTER He healed them not to continue in a certain sin, talking about being direct.lol. But, He never set repentance as a requirement for the ones He healed.

Indeed the journey of truth is lonely but hey, Jesus was and in the end He even ask His last 12 apostles if they were also going to leave Him.

The Bible says that many people gather preachers that will tickle their ears as they cannot handle sound doctrine. Brother, I always admire somebody who dares to set himself aside and go for truth no matter how hard it is. Truth always prevails and lies come back to bite you.

As an employee I always told my bosses, if I can lie for you, I can lie to you, you can choose. I had to disobey a few orders in the past and ones I sold a pc from the shelf and the customer rang angrily that there was no remote with it. I was told to ring the supplier, tell them it was a brand new one, not of the shelve and that the remote was missing. I told them that they were free to ring the company but if I could not find that remote I would pay the $70 out of my own pocket if necessary than to lie for it. That was in 2008 at age 40 but I remember many years ago in my 20tees that people got peed off telling me you won't make it in life like that hahaha.

So yes, I never liked the book how to win friends and influence people and I believe would hate that book from the way he shows Himself in scripture. Jesus was gentle and you can be gentle to people and still tell them the truth. You can correct under tears if necessary, if it the right time and you are sure you are the right person to do it or it will be waste of pearls.

I can't think of a grey area right now but I am sure they exist. Maybe a grey area is an area where people think that truth doesn't matter, but, truth is always truth, but because it is a grey area, they might think they can get away easier with a white lie without being bitten back. In the end, I always wants to be able to look people straight in the eyes and know I have been sincere and told them the truth, not one of the many other ones out there as this will make life very complex and chronic liars have come to a stage that they start to believe their own lies and keep on adding and jumping around like jack jumpers trying to please people, or themselves. They can sing the line "What's love gotta do with it" ???

EVERYTHING!!
 
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planitsoon

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" THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE !!! ... BUT FIRST IT WILL MAKE YOU MAD......" ;-)
 

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KJV.Ephesians4;17-21,17.This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk in vanity of their mind,18.Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of blindness of their heart.19.Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.20.But you have not so learned Christ;21.If so be that you have heard Him, and have been taught by Him, as the Truth is in Jesus.
 
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DaTK

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i can't think of any better way to serve another person than to tell them the truth. be a straight shooter!