The Holy spirit isn't in the bible.

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the holy of spirit is in the bible but not the holy spirit. spirit is genitive when it says holy spirit or the holy spirit, and it's always translated into english in the nominative case. what the bible really says is 'the holy of spirit". Amazing that no one knows this./
 
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the holy of spirit is in the bible but not the holy spirit. spirit is genitive when it says holy spirit or the holy spirit, and it's always translated into english in the nominative case. what the bible really says is 'the holy of spirit". Amazing that no one knows this./
Oh yes there is such thing as the Holy Spirit in the Bible! Here is one example:

"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" Luke 11:13

Same tactic by the devil, question God's word! "Hath God said"
 
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τοῦ "(t-gsn)of-the-one" ἁγίου "(A-GSN)of-hallow-belonged" πνευματος, "(N-GSN)of spirit,"

That's what it says literally in matthew 28.19. literally it reads
Of the of Holy of spirit. but of course every translator changes it to the nominative case. People let translators get away with murder for
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http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-26.htm
 

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the holy of spirit is in the bible but not the holy spirit. spirit is genitive when it says holy spirit or the holy spirit, and it's always translated into english in the nominative case. what the bible really says is 'the holy of spirit". Amazing that no one knows this./
What is your purpose for telling this to us?
Does it build us up in our relationship with Jesus?
What does it do?
Why do you feel a need to tell us?
What is the motivating factor behind it all?
 
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Oh yes there is such thing as the Holy Spirit in the Bible! Here is one example:

"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" Luke 11:13

Same tactic by the devil, question God's word! "Hath God said"
it says spirit holy in the verse not the holy spirit. true though spirit and holy are in the nominative case. keep looking though.
here's verification of what I said.

Luke 11 - Interlinear Westcott & Hort WH Original Greek New Testament GNT Literal English Translation Strong's Concordance Online Parallel Bible Study

god didn't say the holy spirit in luke 11.13, translators diid.
 
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What is your purpose for telling this to us?
Does it build us up in our relationship with Jesus?
What does it do?
Why do you feel a need to tell us?
What is the motivating factor behind it all?
It reveals the truth. A truth hidden because of theology and deception.
 
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It reveals the truth. A truth hidden because of theology and deception.
Even if you change the English translation, the meaning still remains. The "spirit" is the very essence of God Himself. Because God is perfect they spirit is fully "holy."

Therefore, using holy as an adjective as you suggest still gives acknowledgement of the Spirit of God.
 
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It reveals the truth. A truth hidden because of theology and deception.
Are you willing to go to Hell for not believing the Holy Spirit?

John 3:12
If I have spoken to you earthly things, and you believe not; how will you believe, if I shall speak to you heavenly things?
 
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obviously no one is grasping what I am saying.
 
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[h=6]קֹדֶשׁ[/h]
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

  1. apartness, holiness, sacredness, separateness
    1. apartness, sacredness, holiness
      1. of God
      2. of places
      3. of things
    2. set-apartness, separateness
 
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Oh yes there is such thing as the Holy Spirit in the Bible! Here is one example:

"If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?" Luke 11:13

Same tactic by the devil, question God's word! "Hath God said"
here is an accurate translation of that verse.

Luke 11:13 - If therefore, ye, being, evil, know how to be giving, good gifts, unto your children, how much rather, will, the heavenly Father, give Holy Spirit unto them that ask him!(Rotherham, Ephasised bible)

there is no definite article before holy spirit. so it doesn't say 'the holy spirit' it says just 'holy spirit'. and there is a difference in the meaning between the two.
 
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[h=3]The Great Commission[/h]Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. [SUP] [/SUP]Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. [SUP] [/SUP]Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, [SUP] [/SUP]and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
 
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the holy of spirit is in the bible but not the holy spirit. spirit is genitive when it says holy spirit or the holy spirit, and it's always translated into english in the nominative case. what the bible really says is 'the holy of spirit". Amazing that no one knows this./
Prince said the same thing about the cross. He thought everyone else was deceived. meh.....................
 
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The Great Commission

Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
matthew 28.19 is spurious. It isn't the word of God. But it still doesn't negate my assertion that 'the holy spirit" in the nominative case doesn't exist in the bible.
spirit is genitive in matthew 28.19. But my limited search revealed no other examples, other than matthew 28.19 where the genitive of holy spirit had a definite article before it. there might be but I found none.

Is Matthew 28:19 Spurious

Go there for all the evidence for matthew 28.19 being spurious.
 
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That's because everything you say, never makes sense to us. :/
I'd say that's probably usually the case. But I would also say, in my estimation, that no one wants to believe what I say which is why what I say makes sense to no one. (hyperbolically speaking)
 

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I'd say that's probably usually the case. But I would also say, in my estimation, that no one wants to believe what I say which is why what I say makes sense to no one. (hyperbolically speaking)
People disagreeing with you is not the same as you not making sense...
if you made no sense people could neither agree nor disagree. Just sayin' ;)
 
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http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/14-26.htm
john 14.26 doesn't say the holy spirit, it says the holy the spirit. both spirit and holy are articular nouns. holy isn't an adjective in that verse. Plus it isn't even in the wycliffe translation. I found no translation that translates it correctly (unless it's not even in the text as wycliffe's translation would indicate.)
 
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People disagreeing with you is not the same as you not making sense...
if you made no sense people could neither agree nor disagree. Just sayin' ;)
when people say that i don't make sense, that indicates to me that they don't want to know what I am saying means. If they wanted to understand what i am saying, they would ask me such things as 'what do you mean when you say such and such". But blanket assertions that what i say makes no sense without even one example of anything i said that doesn't make sense, strongly indicates to me a strong inclination to not want to know what I am saying means.