Interesting " video " .. Unfamiliar spirit at work.

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[video=youtube;dhlnd4dInng]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlnd4dInng[/video]
 
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Things a little slow and maybe boring at your house today? LOL
 
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Things a little slow and maybe boring at your house today? LOL
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I'm under the weather.. but no I don't find this boring at all. You think a man that can draw two portraits at once in five minutes with his eyes shut is boring? Then to tell you it has to do with spirits ... this is boring?
 
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I'm under the weather.. but no I don't find this boring at all. You think a man that can draw two portraits at once in five minutes with his eyes shut is boring? Then to tell you it has to do with spirits ... this is boring?
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Yes, VERY boring. I watched part of it, yawned, and thought to myself, so what?

I found the elephant artists much more interesting.
 
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Yes, VERY boring. I watched part of it, yawned, and thought to myself, so what?

I found the elephant artists much more interesting.
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Well that's interesting .. Because scholars of art was shocked at his capabilities to copy prominent artist of times past in literally minutes, blind folded. I guess not Mr. Willie, all good... God bless
 
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Ooorrrrrr he could just be a very talented individual???? I didn't watch the whole video because I got the point... But what proof is there that it has anything to do with spirits? Does he claim in it in the video? Or does the guy with the microphone say it does and everyone takes his word for it?
 
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Ooorrrrrr he could just be a very talented individual???? I didn't watch the whole video because I got the point... But what proof is there that it has anything to do with spirits? Does he claim in it in the video? Or does the guy with the microphone say it does and everyone takes his word for it?
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if you just watch the first 2 & a half minutes of it, he (the person being used by spirits) says it's just that... spirits
 
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if you just watch the first 2 & a half minutes of it, he (the person being used by spirits) says it's just that... spirits
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So we instantly believe it? A medium, who knowing scams and lies, says they are using spirits, should we believe them? Many times over, those who have claimed to use demon spirits to perform acts or claim to have special powers have been proven to be wrong. To take things at face value seems kind of ignorant. Should we not challenge these things? Does Christ not call us to do such things?

Research James Randi. He, much like Houdini, made a career of debunking these sorts of claims. Now, I will note, Randi is an atheist, however, Eric Wiess (commonly known as Harry Houdini) was Jewish and the son of a Rabbi. But that does not change the fact that people like the man in the video, have been proven to be lying numerous times through out the years.
 
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And another note... So, here we have a man being led by spirits and the most spectacular thing he can do is draw backwards? If this is the case, anyone who can write a sentence backwards or is ambidextrous, is pretty miraculous. Not really impressive.
 
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And another note... So, here we have a man being led by spirits and the most spectacular thing he can do is draw backwards? If this is the case, anyone who can write a sentence backwards or is ambidextrous, is pretty miraculous. Not really impressive.
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Again, just watch the first few minutes, if your interested.. Why keep asking me? I've said he's stunned art scholars with it. They said NO man can do this, he copied a Van Gogh in minutes without looking ... Something Van Gogh himself couldn't do, we have to step away from that type of art and go back and fourth. He does it with his eyes shut... I'm just showing auto-writing for " movies " is real and so is this type of thing. I don't know why people are being negative instead of saying... Yea that is strange, I guess some see this all the time and it's no bother, idk.
 
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Again, just watch the first few minutes, if your interested.. Why keep asking me? I've said he's stunned art scholars with it. They said NO man can do this, he copied a Van Gogh in minutes without looking ... Something Van Gogh himself couldn't do, we have to step away from that type of art and go back and fourth. He does it with his eyes shut... I'm just showing auto-writing for " movies " is real and so is this type of thing. I don't know why people are being negative instead of saying... Yea that is strange, I guess some see this all the time and it's no bother, idk.
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I will admit it is quite the feat. What I am challenging is the spirit claim.
 
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So we instantly believe it? A medium, who knowing scams and lies, says they are using spirits, should we believe them? Many times over, those who have claimed to use demon spirits to perform acts or claim to have special powers have been proven to be wrong. To take things at face value seems kind of ignorant. Should we not challenge these things? Does Christ not call us to do such things?

Research James Randi. He, much like Houdini, made a career of debunking these sorts of claims. Now, I will note, Randi is an atheist, however, Eric Wiess (commonly known as Harry Houdini) was Jewish and the son of a Rabbi. But that does not change the fact that people like the man in the video, have been proven to be lying numerous times through out the years.
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He does it on video... So now this preacher is lying, the testimony of the guy himself isn't valid, even the South Park episode didn't air to some of you. Isn't it written in the Bible it's real, that Jesus healed a man of many devils ?
 
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I happen to have experience in witnessing wicca practices and I have not seen it work, at least not to a degree that it would convince me. My contention is, if a man were to "evoke" a supernatural evil spirit, would he not want to do something more spectacular? In the bible, the man that was relieved by Jesus of the demons within him was tormented by these demons as are those whom have allegedly been possessed by demons. In this case, with the painter, he seems to be chilling and gaining a talent. There are no cases recorded and proven to match a biblical equivalent where a person was given great artistic and admittedly a great talent. When asked where he got this skill, did he reply "we are legion"?

As for Pastors lying.... Where should I start?
 
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Focus on Jesus. Quit roaming the hall that leads to the dark rabbit trail on youtube. Listen to the audio bible and fill your spirit with the word.
 
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Focus on Jesus. Quit roaming the hall that leads to the dark rabbit trail on youtube. Listen to the audio bible and fill your spirit with the word.
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Amen. We are not to dabble in the occult.
 
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Is the Bible lying here?
12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
 
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Born_Again said:
So we instantly believe it? A medium, who knowing scams and lies, says they are using spirits, should we believe them? Many times over, those who have claimed to use demon spirits to perform acts or claim to have special powers have been proven to be wrong. To take things at face value seems kind of ignorant. Should we not challenge these things? Does Christ not call us to do such things?

Research James Randi. He, much like Houdini, made a career of debunking these sorts of claims. Now, I will note, Randi is an atheist, however, Eric Wiess (commonly known as Harry Houdini) was Jewish and the son of a Rabbi. But that does not change the fact that people like the man in the video, have been proven to be lying numerous times through out the years.
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If you want to call it fake, the burden is on you to prove that... not me. " Many times over " doesn't mean it's not real, there are fakes out there I'm sure. We can't just label everything fake without proof. If you'd like to look this man up, I'd be interested in your study.
 
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This is somebody reading way to much into a talent, really come on man.. The preacher gives way to much credit to demons and not its just a human talent, they made it up the authors of this video no doubt.

[video=youtube;EJj1Qqqebh8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJj1Qqqebh8[/video]
 
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