The Harbinger - Book

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Miri

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Has anyone read this book. Someone suggested it as an interesting read so
I am part way through it. I wondered what other people thought of it?

Its a story based on bible prophecy and modern time events based on America.
But from what I have read so far, it could easily apply to any "Christian country",
Exactly the same could be said of the U.K. and there are certain things which could
also apply to churches (I know one church which was greatly blessed then it
all fell apart). Also to individuals who start off following God but then fall away.

I have to say that I do struggle with reading certain parts of the OT and understanding it.
But now I've started reading this book I don't think I will read the OT in the same confused
glossed over fashion again. It got me thinking that I must do another read through of the
whole bible again with fresh eyes.

It makes for fascinating reading. Anyway have you read it, did if make any sense to you,
did you think it was a load of rubbish. Did it give you a fresh insight into bible passages etc.

Here is an extract.



“They had no idea what was coming. They thought it would all go on as it always had,
as if it would never change. They had no idea what was about to happen or what it
was all leading to. Everything they had ever known, up to that point, their entire world,
would vanish.” “Who?” “An ancient people… an ancient kingdom. Israel, the northern
kingdom, eighth century B.C.


They should have known. It was all there from the beginning, but they forgot.” “Forgot what?”
“Their purpose, their foundation, that which made them unique. No other nation had been
called into being for the will of God or dedicated to His purposes from conception. No other
people had been given a covenant. But the covenant had a condition. If they followed the
ways of God, they would become the most blessed of nations. But if they fell away and turned
against His ways, then their blessings would be removed and replaced by calamity, as they did,
and as it was.


“But why would they turn away if they were given so much?” “It’s a mystery,” said the
prophet, “a kind of spiritual amnesia. When it began, they were still using God’s name, but with
less and less meaning behind it. Then they started merging Him, confusing Him with the gods
of the nations. And then they began turning against Him—subtly at first, then outright,
then brazenly—driving Him out of their national life and bringing in idols to fill the void.


The land became covered with idols and altars to foreign gods. They rejected their covenant,
abandoned their standards, and exchanged the values they had always lived by for those they
had never known—spirituality for sensuality, holiness for profanity, and righteousness for
self-interest. They cut themselves off from the faith on which their nation had been established
and became strangers to God. And as for their most innocent, their little children, they offered
them up as sacrifices.” “Literally?” I asked. “They literally killed their own children?”


“On the altars of Baal and Molech, their newfound gods. That’s how far they descended.
Everything was now upside down. What they had once known as right, they now saw as
outdated, intolerant, and immoral. And what they had once known as immoral, they now
championed and celebrated as sacred. They had transformed themselves into the enemies
of the God they had once worshiped and the faith they had once followed, until the very
mention of His name was banned from their public squares.


And yet in spite of all this, He was merciful and called to them, again and again.” “Through
the prophets?” “Through the prophets—Elijah, Elisha, Hosea, and Amos, pleading with them,
warning them, calling them to return. But they rejected the call and declared war on those
who remained faithful. They branded them as troublemakers, irritants, dangerous, and,
finally, enemies of the state.


They were marginalised vilified, persecuted, and even hunted down. So the nation grew
deaf to the call of those trying to save them from judgment. The alarm would have to grow
louder and the warnings more severe.” “More severe?” “They would enter a new stage.

The words of the prophets would now be joined to the sound of calamity. God would
remove the hedge.” “Remove what hedge?” I asked. “The hedge He had placed around them,
the hedge of protection, of national security that had kept them safe up to that point.


As long as it was in place, they were safe. No enemy kingdom, no empire, no power on earth
could touch them. But once it was removed, everything changed. Their enemies could now
enter, breach their land, and enter their gates. It was a new phase, much more dangerous
than before. Thus began the days of calamities and shakings… the days of final warning.”


“And when did this all happen? When was this hedge removed?” “732 B.C.” “Maybe I’m missing
something,” I said. “But what does all this, what happened two and a half thousand years ago,
have to do with anything… with now? What does it have to do with why you’re here and
why I’m listening to all this?


When we first met, you said it wasn’t about an ancient nation. But so far all you’ve talked
about is an ancient nation.” “I said, ‘Not for an ancient nation.’ That’s different.” “But why
are you talking about an ancient nation?” “Because unless you understand what happened
then, you’ll never understand what’s happening now.” “Now? So it’s some kind of key?”


“A key for the appointed time, for the word to be given and for the message to go forth,
but not for an ancient nation.” “Then for what… for what nation?” He was silent. I asked
him again, “Then for what nation?” It was only then that he voiced it. “America,” he said.
“Now for America.” With that, he got up from the bench and walked over toward the water.
I couldn’t let it go at that. I followed him there. “All this has to do with America?” “Yes.”
“So it’s the appointed time for America? For a mystery to be revealed and a message
to be given to America?” “Yes.” “But what does America have to do with ancient Israel?”
“Israel was unique among nations in that it was conceived and dedicated at its foundation
for the purposes of God.” “OK…”


“But there was another—a civilization also conceived and dedicated to the will of God
from its conception… America. In fact, those who laid its foundations…” “The Founding
Fathers.” “No, long before the Founding Fathers. Those who laid America’s foundations
saw it as a new Israel, an Israel of the New World.” “And was America a new Israel?”
“America is America. And Israel is Israel. The one doesn’t replace the other.


But America’s founders established the new commonwealth after the pattern of
ancient Israel. They dedicated it to God and saw it as in covenant with Him.” “So
was it in covenant with God?” “The Scriptures reveal only one nation with which
God entered into covenant.” “Israel… but America was patterned after Israel.” “Yes.”


“And they saw themselves in covenant with God.” “Yes.” “So what does that mean?”
“They believed that if America followed the ways of God, it would become the most blessed,
the most prosperous, and the most powerful civilization on earth. From the very beginning
they foretold it. And what they foretold would come true. America would rise to heights no
other nation had ever attained. Not that it was ever without fault or sin, but it would always
aspire, one way or another, to fulfill the calling envisioned by its founders at its inception.”
“Which was…” “To be a vessel of redemption, a light to the world. And so it would give refuge
to the world’s poor and needy, and hope to its oppressed. It would stand, more than once,
against the dark movements of the modern age that threatened to engulf the world… and
liberate millions from oppression.


And in the process it would become the most blessed, the most prosperous, the most
powerful, and the most revered nation on the earth—just as its founders had prophesied.”
“So God honored it… their dedicating America to His purposes.” “However one looks at it,
the fact remains—they dedicated America to God, and what they foretold came true.


America became the most blessed nation on earth. It bears out what the Scriptures
reveal concerning the fate of nations: ‘Righteousness exalts a nation…’” The prophet
paused as if to let me know the statement wasn’t finished. “But there’s a but coming,” I said,
filling the silence. “Yes,” said the prophet, “in the case of ancient Israel, there was always
another side.” “If they stopped following Him…” “And turned against Him, then their blessings
would be withdrawn and replaced with curses.”


“But wasn’t Israel surrounded by nations much worse,” I asked, “with no concept of God?
So why would Israel be judged?” “Because to whom much is given, much is required.
And no nation had ever been given so much. None had been so spiritually blessed.
So the standards were higher, the stakes greater, and the judgment, when it came,
more severe.” “And America…” I said. “And America has done much good. And there’s
no shortage of nations far exceeding any of its faults or sins.


But no nation in the modern world has ever been given so much. None has been so blessed.
To whom much is given, much is required. ‘Righteousness exalts a nation… but sin is a
reproach to any people.’ If a nation so blessed by God should turn away from Him, what
then?” “Its blessings will be replaced with curses?”


“Yes.” “And has America turned away from God?” I asked. “It has turned and is turning.” “How?”
“The same nation that was formed after the pattern of Israel now follows after the pattern
of its moral descent, its spiritual departure from God. As it was with Israel’s descent, so
too with America’s. It began with a complacency toward God, then spiritual confusion,
then the merging of God with idols, and then, ultimately, the rejection of His ways.


Just as with ancient Israel, America began ruling God out of its life, turning, step by step,
against His ways, at first subtly, and then, more and more, brazenly.” “When?” I asked.
“When did it start?” “There’s no one simple answer.


In America’s greatest moments there was always sin, and in its worst moments, greatness.
But there are critical junctures. In the middle of the twentieth century America began
officially removing God from its national life. It abolished prayer and Scripture in its
public schools. As ancient Israel had removed the Ten Commandments from its
national consciousness, so America did likewise, removing the Ten Commandments from
public view, banning it from its public squares, and taking it down, by government decree,
from its walls.

As it was in ancient Israel, so too in America, God was progressively driven
out of the nation’s public life. The very mention of the name God or Jesus in any relevant
context became more and more taboo and unwelcome unless for the purpose of mockery
and attack. That which had once been revered as sacred was now increasingly treated
as profanity. And as God was driven out, idols were brought in to replace Him.” “But
Americans don’t worship idols.” “No,” said the prophet, “they just don’t call them idols.


As God was expunged from American life, idols came in to fill the void—idols of sensuality,
idols of greed, of money, success, comfort, materialism, pleasure, sexual immorality,
self-worship, self-obsession. The sacred increasingly disappeared, and the profane took its place.
It was another kind of spiritual amnesia; the nation forgot its foundations, its purpose,
and its calling. The standards and values it had long upheld were now abandoned.


What it had once known as immoral, it now accepted. Its culture was increasingly
corrupted by the corrosion of sexual immorality, growing continuously more crude
and vulgar. A wave of pornography began penetrating its media. The same nation
that had once been dedicated to spreading God’s light to the nations now filled the
world with the pornographic and the obscene.” “Some would call it tolerance,” I said.


“Yes,” he replied, “the same tolerance that overtook ancient Israel… a tolerance for
everything opposed to God, a growing tolerance for immorality and a growing intolerance
for the pure—a tolerance that mocked, marginalized, and condemned those who
remained faithful to the values now being discarded. Innocence was ridiculed and
virtue was vilified. Children were taught of sexual immorality in public schools while
the Word of God was banned.


It was a tolerance that put the profane on public display
and removed nativity scenes from public sight… contraband, as if somehow they
had become a threat—a strangely intolerant tolerance.” “But still,” I countered,
“how does all that compare to what happened in ancient Israel? America doesn’t
offer its children on altars of sacrifice?” “Does it not?” he said. “Ten years after
removing prayer and Scripture from its public schools, the nation legalized the killing
of its unborn.


The blood of the innocent now stained its collective hands. Israel had sacrificed
thousands on the altars of Baal and Molech. But by the dawn of the twenty-first century,
America had sacrificed millions. For its thousands, judgment came upon Israel.
What then of America?” “So what are you saying? He didn’t respond. “Is America
in danger of judgment?” I asked. Again he was silent.


“Tell me… is America in danger of judgment?” “Are you sure you want to know the answer?”
“I’m sure.” “The answer to your question is yes… Yes. America is in danger of judgment.”
I didn’t respond immediately. I was trying to come up with a defense. Finally I said,
“It can’t be as bad as it was in ancient Israel. They came against the prophets. But if
God sent a message today to America, calling it back, people would listen.” “Would they?”
“They wouldn’t?” “No.” “How do you know?” “Because they’ve deafened their ears to
those voices.


So as with ancient Israel, the alarm would have to grow louder and the calling more
severe.” “Which means what?” “Which means that America would enter a new stage.”
“Of what?” “Of what happened to Israel,” he answered. “The hedge?” “The removal of
the nation’s hedge of protection.” “And what would it mean if something like that would
happen?” There was a long pause before he answered that. “It already has.”
“What do you mean?” “America’s hedge has already been removed, and the Nine
Harbingers have been manifested.” “The Nine Harbingers?” “The Nine Harbingers that
manifested in ancient Israel in the nation’s last days.


Each one was a sign. Each one was a warning of judgment… of their end… the Nine
Harbingers of judgment.” “I don’t understand.” “It’s all happening again according
to the same pattern, according to the judgment of ancient Israel. The Nine Harbingers
that appeared in the last days of ancient Israel are now appearing in America.”
“Appearing in America?” “Each one manifesting on American soil. Each one containing
a prophetic message. And upon these, the future of the nation hangs.”


“I don’t understand…” “You don’t have to understand. It will all be revealed.” He asked
me if I had the seal. I did. I removed it from my pocket and handed it to him.
He then opened up his other hand to reveal another seal, the same one he was holding
the day we met. He placed it in my hand. “Nine seals, one for each Harbinger, one for
each mystery.” “And this one?” I asked. “This is the seal of the First Harbinger.” “And
the one I gave you?” “That was your seal. But as for the seals of the Harbingers,
there are eight more. You’ll keep each seal until we meet again, at which time
you’ll return it to me to receive the next seal and the next revelation.


You’ll only have one seal at a time, the security deposit of a coming mystery.” “And
you trust me to give it back to you?” I asked. “Yes.” “But how do you know you’ll
ever see me again?” “You’re the one seeking, and you won’t stop until you find.
In any case, I have my own security deposit, don’t I?” He paused and then slightly
nodding his head said, “Until then, Nouriel.” And he began to walk away.
“And my seal?” I shouted after him. “You’ll get it back when we’re finished,” he replied
without stopping or turning his head” “And when will we meet again?”
I asked. “When it’s time to speak of the First Harbinger.” “Here?” “At the
appointed place,” he replied. “How will I know?”
 
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sassylady

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I believe in what it says, I believe Rabbi Kahn, but I don't like the particular format the book is written in. I just want the facts, don't put them in a story. But there are people that like that.
 
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Miri

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I believe in what it says, I believe Rabbi Kahn, but I don't like the particular format the book is written in. I just want the facts, don't put them in a story. But there are people that like that.

Yes i I know what you mean it took me a couple of chapters to get into the way the
book was written.