Discernment

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Not sure where to post this. But here goes.

I am struggling to know if something is infact the Lord's will. I have seen him move mountains and do not doubt his ability. I am struggling to know for sure if it is him guiding me. Back in 95 maybe 96, I was given a name for a ministry. I packed everything up and went to where I believed God had called me. When I got there I was a young Christian, and allowed a preacher to tell me, "I was foolish to go home". Sadly I did. The Ministry never left me nor the name. However, I never believed it could come to pass. My ex never kept a job, and I was disabled. I had God in a little box. Now after seeing God move mountains and no man could take credit, I know he can do it. The doors are closing here, and it has been on my heart more and more. I pulled out an old journal and seen how I keep talking about it, but put it on a back burner. Now doors are shutting here, it is even stronger. I just did not know where. Then I was reminded of where I went over a decade ago, which I forgot about. I have asked God to remove anything that is not of him. My fear is being out of the Lord's will.

I had a TBI and several strokes. My memory was not the best. For this to stick with me all these years. and today you can not tell I ever had strokes or TBI. and was working for the first time in 16 yrs. till a recent car wreck. and my employer did not know I was ever disabled. I worked in an ER. so that shows how far I have come. kinda a back story to see what all the Lord has done. But that is not even close to all he has done just this year. That is another story in it's self.

I struggle with getting words from my head to others. I pray this makes sense. This will be a huge change for me, and my children. I am struggling with am I just afraid, and uncertain? More so of why me, surly there are others better suited. Though I would love the arrangements. I am just not a huge people person. I kinda feel like Mose arguing with God. I so badly want to serve the Lord. I desire to please him. So as you can see I have a lot of struggles going on. I feel like it is my time and I am being called up. I just dont seem to understand it all. And I will have to have total faith in the Lord, for this will be something I can not do for myself. only thing I can do is be obedient.

Has anyone else struggled with similar? and how was it discerned? I trust the Lord, I just don't trust myself. I don't want to mess up the Lord's plans. I have lived outside of them long enough.
 
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Ok simply put. How do you know for certain if the Lord is calling you to do something?
 
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Ok simply put. How do you know for certain if the Lord is calling you to do something?
Pray, and search the scriptures. Does what your doing line up, if so then it more than likely is a true calling. For example you said you wanted to start a ministry, you went to win souls for our Lord and to edify the body of Christ. To me that lines up with scriptures because you are edifying the body of Christ. Although I do not know the preacher and cannot really tell you the intent of his heart (only the Lord can). He possibly could have been moved by satan to tell you to go home so that you could not fulfill your calling. Also he could of been prideful and did not want anybody taking away from his congregation. Just because he was a preacher does not mean he is saved or doing the will of the Lord the preacher is just like you or me and we all can be weak in the flesh at times maybe that was what his problem was, again we cannot see the intent of his heart. When Paul was going out with his ministry the "religious hierarchy" was trying to put him to death.

God Bless,
 

Joidevivre

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Keep praying and praying until your spirit knows that you know. There will be no confusion about it. And there will be a deep peace in your heart.
 

Tinkerbell725

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Ok simply put. How do you know for certain if the Lord is calling you to do something?
I don't know. Maybe when you are forced to make a choice and sometimes you can't explain why you made a decision. God allows us to fail sometimes if that what it takes for us to grow. Discernment is not being sure that it is God's call but its walking by faith because we don't know for certain the greater picture that God is painting. It's being mindful of your heart that you are not blinded by your own evil desires as you make your choices in life.
 
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Thanks for the input. It is a ministry designed to save and heal. So it does line up with the word. It is something that has been designed into me. a desire and I have always worked in the medical field to help folks. This will be helping the spirit and soul. The location is not necessarily my choice. It is infact the original place and I had forgotten all about it. So it is all coming into play. or a full picture if you will. It has been in my mind off and on for near 20 years. Maybe it is just because I cant see how it will all play out or come to be. That is what is hard for me? I have never had to fully rely on the Lord except once and that was a year ago. He moved mountains then. and proved to me I could trust him. I have prayed and prayed and will continue to pray. My doubt comes from myself, not the Lord. I have peace this will come to be, I have fear I will mess it up or not hear right. I am still learning this ( relying not on your own understanding) I am a born again Christian, but a fairly new Christian with new eyes. It can be overwhelming at times. Not wanting to let the Father down. It is hard for me to put it into words.
 
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It is also something I would not choose for myself, with my social struggles. It also involves stepping outside of the World. Like Mose and Jonah, not what I would choose for myself. So I know it is not selfish desires.
 
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Ok simply put. How do you know for certain if the Lord is calling you to do something?
A way to look at Matthew 7:12

So in everything, do/say to others what you would have them do/say to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

John 7:17

Anyone who chooses to do the will of God will find out whether my teaching comes from God or whether I speak on my own.

Matthew 7:

24 "Therefore everyone who hears these words of mine and puts them into practice is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.
25 The rain came down, the streams rose, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had its foundation on the rock.

Part of Ezekiel 38:23

Then they will know that I am the LORD.'
 
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:alien: as it is written
:read:
1 Pedro: 4. 12. Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13. But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.

:ty:

godbless us all always
 
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Thanks for the input. It is a ministry designed to save and heal. So it does line up with the word. It is something that has been designed into me. a desire and I have always worked in the medical field to help folks. This will be helping the spirit and soul. The location is not necessarily my choice. It is infact the original place and I had forgotten all about it. So it is all coming into play. or a full picture if you will. It has been in my mind off and on for near 20 years. Maybe it is just because I cant see how it will all play out or come to be. That is what is hard for me? I have never had to fully rely on the Lord except once and that was a year ago. He moved mountains then. and proved to me I could trust him. I have prayed and prayed and will continue to pray. My doubt comes from myself, not the Lord. I have peace this will come to be, I have fear I will mess it up or not hear right. I am still learning this ( relying not on your own understanding) I am a born again Christian, but a fairly new Christian with new eyes. It can be overwhelming at times. Not wanting to let the Father down. It is hard for me to put it into words.
I remember years ago as a new believer studying to find what it takes to make fishers of men, In whom God would heal by giving eternal life. Searching for the proper kind of bait to draw them closer to Christ or some other technique as a fisher of men, After a while a few days my 6 years daughter was walking around the house singing the Sunday school song ;"I will make you fishers of men" and the answer came . "If you will follow me”. Just your testimony as to your concern for your love for God is enough to bring some kind of healing. It encouraged myself which is a healing .

If we do get out eyes off of Jesus this could mean we are not following Him as he gives us rest in our work. Peter just after being forgiven as a kind of healing did get his eyes off of Jesus and in doing so started an oral tradition of men which added to the scriptures. Christ in affect said if every time men did take their eyes off of the finish line that we do have in Christ and soothed or comforted their own selves like peter with that fasle prophecy the whole world would not be able to contain the books that could be written.
Keep up the faith.
 

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Baseline God's will, which works for ANY believer:

*Love Jesus by:

* Praying as often as you can to Jesus
* Sharing with others the hope that is in you of Jesus
* Attending a sound, biblical christian assembly regularly and fellowship with them- to worship Jesus
* Reading the Word as often as you can for Jesus
* Helping those in need for Jesus

When ANY believer does these, they ARE doing God's will. After a while God will start giving specific direction to any believer that does these.. thru the Holy Spirit speaking to them thru His Word.
 

Dan58

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This sense of compulsion should prompt you to consider whether God may be calling. Discern whether God has gifted you with the fervent desire to preach? Has He equipped you with the gifts necessary for ministry? Do you love God’s Word and feel called to teach? Are you physically up for it? If you have a sense of urgency (preach or die), it may be an authentic call. But just because we may feel an obligation or responsibility to do something, doesn't always mean that's where God is calling us to be. Its good to have complete faith in God, but can you literally do what you think your being called to do? Having an idea is self-generated, being 100% devoted and consumed with going one direction is probably God inspired... jmo
 
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This sense of compulsion should prompt you to consider whether God may be calling. Discern whether God has gifted you with the fervent desire to preach? Has He equipped you with the gifts necessary for ministry? Do you love God’s Word and feel called to teach? Are you physically up for it? If you have a sense of urgency (preach or die), it may be an authentic call. But just because we may feel an obligation or responsibility to do something, doesn't always mean that's where God is calling us to be. Its good to have complete faith in God, but can you literally do what you think your being called to do? Having an idea is self-generated, being 100% devoted and consumed with going one direction is probably God inspired... jmo
Thank you for your comment. I am not being called to preach or teach. The ministry will be one of healing for the broken, something I know a lot about and well equipped for. Can I do it by myself? No The Lord will have to help. I will be a vessel. Do I have life training oh yes, since child birth. I have a deep urgency to be doing this. I can see all of it, and I have no imagination. I have never served the Lord on this level. After discussing this out loud, since ya'll are the first I have shared any of it w/ except a woman friend almost a year ago. I fear failing. and have a hard time seeing it come to be. I am stronger in the Lord than I have ever been. Since my head injury, my life was changed. self confidence has been an issue. a semester in college proved i was not stupid. working after 16 yrs proved to me I could still do it. I have never out right committed working for the Lord. I fear messing up. I have given him my life and learning die to self, and stepping out of the world. I choose my Lord over anything. sometimes my flesh struggles. The desires of my heart is for the Lord. He knows this. and worldly possessions has never been an issue. It all boils down to me being afraid of messing up. yet my sig is ( no fear) Wow what an eye opener. After 20 yrs I know what I am to do, just not sure how to go about it yet. That the Lord will have to show me. Thank you
 
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Ok simply put. How do you know for certain if the Lord is calling you to do something?
It will be a natural outflow of your life. You will love to do it. God works in us both "to will" and "to do" what He has for us to do. God puts the desire in your heart.

For example if you hear that there is an opening in the children ministry - but you don't really like being around children - that "call" is not for you.

I would say to wait on the Lord for any further direction. "Unless the Lord build the house - they labor in vain that build it."

It's not good enough to know the "what to do" we need direction for "the when" and "the how" as well as we go along. Waiting on the Lord for things is never a waste of time.
 
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I can understand that, at the same time a saying comes to mind. 2 farmers pray for rain. only one prepares his field to receive the rain. I also know to wait for the Lord. What is the line, of waiting and preparing your field?
 

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What I do when I am not 100% sure is. I go in my room and usually just start off with worshipping God and inviting his spirit. I start praying and just let the holy spirit flow and when I feel gods presence just overwhelming everything I ask for his clear discernment on whatever matter. Usually I just either get the answer by hearing it or I speak it (holy spirit through me). Worked every time so far and helps building faith.
 
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What I do when I am not 100% sure is. I go in my room and usually just start off with worshipping God and inviting his spirit. I start praying and just let the holy spirit flow and when I feel gods presence just overwhelming everything I ask for his clear discernment on whatever matter. Usually I just either get the answer by hearing it or I speak it (holy spirit through me). Worked every time so far and helps building faith.

Thanks will give it a try. I have the where and what, just not sure the when. and not sure do I go ahead and go to the where. You know the preparing my fields, matter of speaking.
 

Demi777

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:) Just try to take some time alone with him I am sure that he will help you.

Thanks will give it a try. I have the where and what, just not sure the when. and not sure do I go ahead and go to the where. You know the preparing my fields, matter of speaking.