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I hear professed Christians talking about (and posting here about) their fiancés that they seem to be living with, and about "hooking up", or "being together", or "dating"......... and the words certainly don't seem to have the mild connotations they used to carry.

Is it my overactive imagination, or are as many Christians engaging in pre-marital sex as is sounds like to me?
 
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i do not know exactly, maybe they feel they have to test drive the goods first. or the whole idea is 1st century thinking and this is the 21st century. I really do not know
 
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I hear professed Christians talking about (and posting here about) their fiancés that they seem to be living with, and about "hooking up", or "being together", or "dating"......... and the words certainly don't seem to have the mild connotations they used to carry.

Is it my overactive imagination, or are as many Christians engaging in pre-marital sex as is sounds like to me?
Liberal Christians think it's OK to live together without being married but then we all know they change God's word to suit their own desires. I'll leave it to God to deal with them - we do not need to argue with them or judge them for if they call themselves Christians they already know the truth in their hearts. I'm sure they struggle with themselves over it but if one of them were to ask my opinion I would try to tell them with love.
 
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Liberal Christians think it's OK to live together without being married but then we all know they change God's word to suit their own desires. I'll leave it to God to deal with them - we do not need to argue with them or judge them for if they call themselves Christians they already know the truth in their hearts. I'm sure they struggle with themselves over it but if one of them were to ask my opinion I would try to tell them with love.
I'm not trying to judge them. I'm sure a third of my own congregation are doing it. But I am just puzzled at what point one of the most basic things like that just got tossed out the window.
 
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As far as Christians,there is no such thing as boyfriend,girlfriend,only engaged to be married,which until they are married to not engage in any sexual activity,other than hanging around each other.

There is no such thing as boyfriend,girlfriend,for if not to be engaged to be married,then they have not made a commitment to eventually get married,and know they will get married.

The saints are supposed to have an attitude to each other that it is hands off,and no sexual activity,as the world casually does it,and boyfriend,girlfriend,would imply that there is something going on between the two,that is not a normal relationship as should be between saints,and even kissing,and holding hands,and holding each other,would be wrong.

If they are doing something together as far as closeness,that they would not do with any other saint,then it is wrong,for boyfriend,and girlfriend,does not apply in the saints world,only engaged to be married,which then they should not live together,or kiss,which I do not believe they should even hold hands,or hold each other with that closeness,until they are married.

How can boyfriend,girlfriend,apply,when the only thing God sees as right is marriage,and being engaged,knowing you will be married,why,because it is a commitment between two people,a covenant,which is only valid in God's eyes.
 
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well I do not think it is a recent development, been going on for quite some time now.
 

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Temptation? It depends on who you're around. I know my friends and old boyfriends believed in God but none of us practiced what we were supposed to. I suppose if I had been .more involved in Christian groups or heck even went to church regularly I wouldn't have done some of the stuff I did. I can't say it wouldn't have happened if I was more involved but I think it might have helped. Who knows really. I remember for a period of time there was some sort of thing that people who weren't virgins and committed to Christ were saying they were renewed virgins, something to that effect. I never went that route. I did what I did, not proud of it. Do I wish I would've waited until I was married? Yes.
 
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well I do not think it is a recent development, been going on for quite some time now.
Not really. I have a lot of friends I talk openly with, and most of them held off. Of course, almost none were of the Victorian mindset of *mpaper*. But even my wife and I, who had both been previously married and were not virgins when we got married the first time, managed to stay out of the sack for a year and a half.
 
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I dunno. Somehow, to me, it seems it has happened relatively recently that almost ALL Christians don't seem to give it a second thought.
 
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Marriage has been devalued. Most people I knew growing up have been married, divorce and remarried.

The whole idea of purity gets mixed up when many of your friends were date raped.
 

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Is the idea of abstaining till marriage just a foolish, antiquated notion anymore?
More or less, yes.

the general consensus seems to be as long as its a loving and consensual situation its fine. I actually had this conversation, of sorts, with a youth pastor yesterday. His opinion was obviously unmarried people are doing it. As long as no one is living together openly and no one gets pregnant...no big deal.
 
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Marriage has been devalued. Most people I knew growing up have been married, divorce and remarried.

The whole idea of purity gets mixed up when many of your friends were date raped.
That might be a good point. But, maybe even further. Those here who have read the book, Eyes of Honor, that I tout so strongly, will recall that in the opening chapter, there is a section on understanding your own value, so that you can then value others.
 
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More or less, yes.

the general consensus seems to be as long as its a loving and consensual situation its fine. I actually had this conversation, of sorts, with a youth pastor yesterday. His opinion was obviously unmarried people are doing it. As long as no one is living together openly and no one gets pregnant...no big deal.
and this is why I believe all forms of birth control, condoms, ect should be done away with.
 
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More or less, yes.

the general consensus seems to be as long as its a loving and consensual situation its fine. I actually had this conversation, of sorts, with a youth pastor yesterday. His opinion was obviously unmarried people are doing it. As long as no one is living together openly and no one gets pregnant...no big deal.
Um.... That's a little disturbing. I think you are reading the book, right? Is that idea working for you as you progress through the book?