Are you as honest as Trump?

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We are only to apply that "Christ or Satan" interrogation in certain, specific circumstances?
I don't think it even applies to anything. People don't go around asking others if they follow Christ or satan before associating with them. Unless some do that. Which is realy weird.
 
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I don't think it even applies to anything. People don't go around asking others if they follow Christ or satan before associating with them. Unless some do that. Which is realy weird.
Then why are you doing it to Trump? Hillary clearly shows where she stands.
 
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After clicking on that link I really hope my computer will live...that site is...well....not the most thrustworthy I've seen...
How did Reagan put it? "There you go again."
 
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I'm not >.> I was mainly engaging the guy who did. Speaking of Trump. My opinion of him doesn't really matter. I'm not voting. But spectating from the sidelines.
Sorry. I sometimes expect things to be stated more clearly than often happens.
 

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No I'll never be as Honest as Trump.
 

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Oh you know I don't think anyone will ever live up to the high moral standards of the two people running for President right now.
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Oh you know I don't think anyone will ever live up to the high moral standards of the two people running for President right now.
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Ya know, being a reasonably successful General Contractor, myself, I have followed Trump's career for years. And I would really like for someone to point out his dishonesty.

When he didn't care much about the war, one way or another, he answered, "Yeah, I guess so", to Howard Stearn's question about being for the war.. And liberals now want to try to make that to be a lie because when he looked into it after that, he saw the war was not going to be good for America, and he said so.... and still does.

If he says 4,000 Blacks have been shot... again, Liberals attack........ because the actual number is maybe a hundred less than that. (They would have remained perfectly silent if the actual number had been 4, 007.)

Liberals claimed he refused to rent to Blacks. When the truth is that there were Blacks living in many of his apartments at that very moment. He's made to be evil because some of the deadbeats he rejected rentals to happened to be Black.... along with a large number of Whites and other races also. Because they wanted to live in his high-end apartments, but couldn't afford to pay the rent he asked, they felt he should be forced to let them move in......... even if they didn't make half enough money to ever be able to pay the rent.

And it goes on and on like that..... people just jealous of a smart man who worked and made money while they partied.
 
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Personally I don't care how much money The Donald has...He could have every penny on earth and it wouldn't matter to me... What does matter to me is how he went about getting those pennies... If he made a deal with someone and they agreed to work for him and they do the work. Because The Donald wouldn't pay all the money due until the project is done then I in good faith would take the down payment and start and maybe even finish the work.

At the end of the job I would invoice The Donald and expect to be paid what we agreed upon in the deal. But instead of paying The Donald delays payment forcing me to invoice him again... Mind you we agreed on this amount of money before I started the work. I now have bills that need to be paid and expect that payment.

Instead The Donald sends his other representative to me saying The Donald isn't satisfied with the work. But I have done superior work knowing the expectations of The Donald, but his representative shows me a much lower amount of money that The Donald is willing to pay for this work already completed. I object stating the original deal agreed upon, his representative then tells me you'd better take this offer because we will tie you up with lawyers and court dates until you will loose more than what this new lower offer is. So I agree to take that and feel cheated noting I will never work for The Donald again as he is a cheat.

I invoice him again for the new lower amount and again there is a delay in payment. Yep, you guessed it he wants to lower the amount again and now I have people coming after me for payment of materials that I used on The Donald project.

So you tell me is he honest?
 

JesusLives

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In answer to your question.... Yes, I am more honest than The Donald...


I am also one of those people who go get bargain items and then sell on Ebay... No, I don't disclose my price at time of the sale. But to this date I have never had anyone ask me what I paid for the item and if they did I would be honest and tell them... What do I have to hide? The only difference between me and them I took the time to hit the clearance rack and they thought it was fine to pay more money. I have not cheated them.

If Donald worked like that He wouldn't be a cheat either.
 
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Personally I don't care how much money The Donald has...He could have every penny on earth and it wouldn't matter to me... What does matter to me is how he went about getting those pennies... If he made a deal with someone and they agreed to work for him and they do the work. Because The Donald wouldn't pay all the money due until the project is done then I in good faith would take the down payment and start and maybe even finish the work.

At the end of the job I would invoice The Donald and expect to be paid what we agreed upon in the deal. But instead of paying The Donald delays payment forcing me to invoice him again... Mind you we agreed on this amount of money before I started the work. I now have bills that need to be paid and expect that payment.

Instead The Donald sends his other representative to me saying The Donald isn't satisfied with the work. But I have done superior work knowing the expectations of The Donald, but his representative shows me a much lower amount of money that The Donald is willing to pay for this work already completed. I object stating the original deal agreed upon, his representative then tells me you'd better take this offer because we will tie you up with lawyers and court dates until you will loose more than what this new lower offer is. So I agree to take that and feel cheated noting I will never work for The Donald again as he is a cheat.

I invoice him again for the new lower amount and again there is a delay in payment. Yep, you guessed it he wants to lower the amount again and now I have people coming after me for payment of materials that I used on The Donald project.

So you tell me is he honest?
This is where you are being suckered. The ones who honestly did superior work got paid for it, and they continued working for him on job after job after job for years after that. I, myself have refused payment to guys who thought they could give me a half-assed job. A contractor knows he is due NO pay for inferior work. There is none of this, "Well, just give me 80%"... because the GC now has to go pay premium $ on top of what the shoddy contractor screwed him out of to repair the inferior work, and then do it right.
 

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I have always been taught that when people repeatedly say Trust Me or Believe Me...watch out cause you gonna get disappointed big time....

Also, I, I, I, I the country is not run with I it is run with and for We the People.... It takes team work to get things done no man is an island.....

Is it really too much to ask or expect a leader who can unite the country and get things done?... Are we so split we can't and don't want to work together anymore?
 

JesusLives

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You know I love you and wifie so I don't want any of our political rhetoric to come between us... Ultimately we just want a country that is functional where we can feel safe and take care of our families... Please come Lord Jesus.... The ultimate solution.
 

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Ya know, being a reasonably successful General Contractor, myself, I have followed Trump's career for years. And I would really like for someone to point out his dishonesty.

When he didn't care much about the war, one way or another, he answered, "Yeah, I guess so", to Howard Stearn's question about being for the war.. And liberals now want to try to make that to be a lie because when he looked into it after that, he saw the war was not going to be good for America, and he said so.... and still does.

If he says 4,000 Blacks have been shot... again, Liberals attack........ because the actual number is maybe a hundred less than that. (They would have remained perfectly silent if the actual number had been 4, 007.)

Liberals claimed he refused to rent to Blacks. When the truth is that there were Blacks living in many of his apartments at that very moment. He's made to be evil because some of the deadbeats he rejected rentals to happened to be Black.... along with a large number of Whites and other races also. Because they wanted to live in his high-end apartments, but couldn't afford to pay the rent he asked, they felt he should be forced to let them move in......... even if they didn't make half enough money to ever be able to pay the rent.

And it goes on and on like that..... people just jealous of a smart man who worked and made money while they partied.
I say with all honesty the only thing I know about Donald Trump is he was on the Apprentice. I'm a registered Libertarian my candidate isn't perfect, I know. I just think it's beyond time for America to break free from the major two party system. Last night the debate was on, background noise because I was busy. I heard the words, taxes, economy, your Husband, being prepared, women, jobs, NAFTA and Obama. I shut my mind off from the whole thing.
 
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I have always been taught that when people repeatedly say Trust Me or Believe Me...watch out cause you gonna get disappointed big time....

Also, I, I, I, I the country is not run with I it is run with and for We the People.... It takes team work to get things done no man is an island.....

Is it really too much to ask or expect a leader who can unite the country and get things done?... Are we so split we can't and don't want to work together anymore?
First off, I think that is exactly what Jesus said.

Secondly, "I" took full responsibility for running my companies. When things went right, I gave all the credit to my crews. But when thing went South, I was the only one I ever expected anyone to look at.

Hillary (mark my words) will stick it to all those people who didn't try hard enough when things go wrong. It sounds good to hear talk about "we", but she will also blame you when her policies fail. She tried it with Benghazi (Someone made a video that got your loved ones killed.) She just did it last week when she asked "So why aren't I in the White House?" She made it clear "we" weren't doing enough to get her there.

A leader never says "Go get them." He says, "Follow me as I lead the charge....... I won't throw blame on you if we fail."

Just look at all her aides and employees she has recently thrown under the bus in the investigations.. She even tried it with Colin Powell.
 
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I say with all honesty the only thing I know about Donald Trump is he was on the Apprentice. I'm a registered Libertarian my candidate isn't perfect, I know. I just think it's beyond time for America to break free from the major two party system. Last night the debate was on, background noise because I was busy. I heard the words, taxes, economy, your Husband, being prepared, women, jobs, NAFTA and Obama. I shut my mind off from the whole thing.
I agree with you. I would give anything to see the 2-Party system dissolved. But we have to live in the real world. It is here to stay, and it will remain until America is finally destroyed by it.