A dream I had a couple nights ago

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Blain

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I always tell God how willing I am to take the place of a person who is dying or might die there are also sometimes not often but sometimes when I see or hear an ambulance or fire truck or I hear of a person badly injured and their lives might be in danger when I am in tears and beg God to let me take their place in death, obviously he never took my life but I believe that it's possible that simply my willingness to take their place may have moved him to give them another chance.

I had a dream a long time ago that I saw death himself standing over a person about to take them and in my zeal with a fiery burning passion I commanded him you will take me instead. I spoke of this dream not knowing the meaning here in cc and I wish I could remember who but someone explained to me they believed that dream was a manifestation of the love in my heart and how far I am willing to go for the sake of another.

I haven't had such a dream for the longest time but a couple nights ago for whatever reason I had another like it but it was different. I remember being in a hospital and an old man who I believe was 74 was dying and I was in tears begging God to let me take his place but the old man who was dying who was also praying at this time in the middle of his prayer hearing my request to God asked God to make it known to me that it was his time and that he was old and I was young after this the dream ended.

I am not the best at knowing the meaning of my dreams and so I hoped someone here would understand the meaning
 

zeroturbulence

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In the second dream, I think God was showing you that not everyone wants to be saved.

In the first dream, God's showing you that your intentions are having some kind of real affect in the spiritual realm... like death hears you. (I'm just guessing of course, and I don't think there is an actual figure called death unless you're talking about the one riding the horse in the apocalypse in revelation)
 

Jilly81

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I'm going to be honest with you, Blain. A lot of the time people who are elderly are ready to go. As the gentleman in your dream said, time is up and passing is often looked forward to. Older folks often are in enough pain that they welcome death for physical reasons. "I'm always so tired ... I don't want to live any more" is a quote from a neighbor's great aunt when she was roughly 100 (she was telling her family why she didn't even want to go to her own birthday party). She died soon afterwards, and was a believer. A lady at my church died a couple weeks ago. My friend (her granddaughter) posted online how her grandmother rarely smiled anymore, and how she really looked forward to seeing her husband again (his photo had been beside her bed for years).

I also don't think that God wants you to keep asking Him to let you take the place of a dying person. However, rather than take my word for it, I hope you ask Him yourself :). If He gives one of us more time, He doesn't need another to take their place in the grave. We need to be careful not to let our compassion turn into a form of arrogance, as though we know better than God. By all means, if you feel led to ask Jesus to give a person more time on the Earth, do so, but He knows best regardless of whether His answer is "yes" or "no". :)
 
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Grandpa

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I think you are just sub-consciously jealous, Blain. Jealous is kind of a poor description but its the best I can really do.

They are going to a better place to be with the Lord and you are stuck down here. They are going to the place you long to be at.

But you've been told that its not your time. You have to wait.
 

Blain

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In the second dream, I think God was showing you that not everyone wants to be saved.

In the first dream, God's showing you that your intentions are having some kind of real affect in the spiritual realm... like death hears you. (I'm just guessing of course, and I don't think there is an actual figure called death unless you're talking about the one riding the horse in the apocalypse in revelation)
True I suppose i can understand that some are just so tired and death seems like heaven because they are so tired and so ready to go. as for the actual figure of death I have met him a couple times the first time I actually spoke to him the second time he didn't say anything, as for if he is an actual being I think he is just not in the grim reaper kind of figure we think of him as because in the story of moses death swept across the land of egypt and the way it was described it was as if an actual being was death itself.
 

Blain

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I'm going to be honest with you, Blain. A lot of the time people who are elderly are ready to go. As the gentleman in your dream said, time is up and passing is often looked forward to. Older folks often are in enough pain that they welcome death for physical reasons. "I'm always so tired ... I don't want to live any more" is a quote from a neighbor's great aunt when she was roughly 100 (she was telling her family why she didn't even want to go to her own birthday party). She died soon afterwards, and was a believer. A lady at my church died a couple weeks ago. My friend (her granddaughter) posted online how her grandmother rarely smiled anymore, and how she really looked forward to seeing her husband again (his photo had been beside her bed for years).

I also don't think that God wants you to keep asking Him to let you take the place of a dying person. However, rather than take my word for it, I hope you ask Him yourself :). If He gives one of us more time, He doesn't need another to take their place in the grave. We need to be careful not to let our compassion turn into a form of arrogance, as though we know better than God. By all means, if you feel led to ask Jesus to give a person more time on the Earth, do so, but He knows best regardless of whether His answer is "yes" or "no". :)
In all honesty I can understand how they feel there were times when I was in such pain and my body was so physically worn that death seemed like a blessing i even felt such relief just thinking of death to me it was alike a peaceful sleep no pain no worries to weariness just nothing and to me in that time it seemed like a curse to keep living.

I do admit that sometimes I wish I could have taken peoples place in fact one time I heard that an elderly person that was very close to a person I was talking t0o had recently passed away and I for a second felt a little angry at God even saying to him how he knows I would have taken their place instead but I then said to myself no sometimes it's not for me to take to their place.

You see even though I have the willingness to take the place of others in death I only ask and beg him to let me when I feel lead to and I know his spirit apart form my own when I am lead to ask to take their place I can feel the love and spirit of God flowing deeply inside me to the point where I am in tears but when I myself ask it feels lacking not real not that my desire isn't real but just that i wasn't lead to do it and so it feels lacking
 

Blain

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I think you are just sub-consciously jealous, Blain. Jealous is kind of a poor description but its the best I can really do.

They are going to a better place to be with the Lord and you are stuck down here. They are going to the place you long to be at.

But you've been told that its not your time. You have to wait.
i will admit that I have longed to go home for a while now but it's not that I envy them that i do this, besides I have much more to do here before I can go home I haven't given up on living for him simply because I miss him if we have that kind of mind set then we won't grow much as people and as believers here in this life and we will be to focused on going home and not nearly enough on him himself.

When I am actually lead to beg to take their place it's out love and concern for them at that moment I am thinking of if they are saved or not I am thinking of the family and friends that need them here and if in fact they are not saved and they go to hell in their death then that only fuels my desire to take their place. In death I have nothing to lose and everything to gain but for a lost person in death they have everything to lose. And I have no idea if the people I begged to take their place in death were saved or lost but for all I know the times when I felt lead to ask God to let them have another chance they could have been lost people who would have gone to hell had I not or for all I know they were saved people I also have no idea if my intercession for them was futile or not I only acted on what was placed on my heart
 

tanakh

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I'm going to be honest with you, Blain. A lot of the time people who are elderly are ready to go. As the gentleman in your dream said, time is up and passing is often looked forward to. Older folks often are in enough pain that they welcome death for physical reasons. "I'm always so tired ... I don't want to live any more" is a quote from a neighbor's great aunt when she was roughly 100 (she was telling her family why she didn't even want to go to her own birthday party). She died soon afterwards, and was a believer. A lady at my church died a couple weeks ago. My friend (her granddaughter) posted online how her grandmother rarely smiled anymore, and how she really looked forward to seeing her husband again (his photo had been beside her bed for years).

I also don't think that God wants you to keep asking Him to let you take the place of a dying person. However, rather than take my word for it, I hope you ask Him yourself :). If He gives one of us more time, He doesn't need another to take their place in the grave. We need to be careful not to let our compassion turn into a form of arrogance, as though we know better than God. By all means, if you feel led to ask Jesus to give a person more time on the Earth, do so, but He knows best regardless of whether His answer is "yes" or "no". :)[/QUOTE

I think you are right on all points. I have a Mother in Law age 91. She is often in a lot of pain and expresses the wish that she could die. Also when you reach a certain age and have no family left to speak of you feel that there is little point in going on.
 

Joidevivre

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I love my life right now - but I sure don't want someone else to pray to take my place when I die. I trust the "time to die" in Ecclesiastics. I trust that since I gave my life into the hands of Jesus, that he, alone, will choose the time my life is ready to enter into a new life with Him. "My days were written even before I was born" - (somewhere in Psalms).

I look forward to death just as much as I enjoy life right now. Either way, I just can't lose. But I'm also not in a lot of pain like some other people are. I might want death more at that point. My husband looked forward to it during his last weeks. Still, it is God's choice to take my last breath.

Blain, I think the old man's comments to you were like a teaching. Let the old people go. And don't assume death looks bad to them. There is a verse "Better is the day of death than the day of one's birth". Eccles. 7:1
 
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Miri

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I have an idea that each person is allotted a life span set out by God to
do God's will, enjoy Him, partner with Him, grow in Christ etc.

Many things get in the way of that due to Satan's meddling.
Many millions never come to salvation and many Christians have their
lives cut short because of circumstances, sickness, etc. The more people
attempt to walk in God's will the more opposition they seem to face.

When it comes to the death of a person, I pray something along the lines of
if they are unsaved or if there is still work left for them to do, or if this is
Satan wanting to cut their life short, then I pray God will intervene and save
that person.

I did this for my aunt last year, the doctors basically told me to go home, leave
my phone on and they would contact me when her heart stopped.

I prayed my heart out and felt strongly that it was not her time yet, this was
not right for her to go in such an awful way, scared, in pain, confused etc.

God answered my prayers and we also finally got to the bottom of all her
health problems the causes etc, which no one had ever bothered to do before.
We are now getting the proper care and medical attention she should have been
having for the last few years. She has many medical needs but things are now
more settled and mentally she is also far better.


Yes there will be a time for her to die, but that time has not yet been reached.:)

http://christianchat.com/testimonies/126117-miraculous-healing-80-year-old.html

Blain in regards to wanting to take someone's place. I think God has set out your life
span and has plans for you too. So I don't think it's good to pray that your life should
be substituted it goes against God's plan for your life. It also verges on the fringes of
self harm.

Besides if you are dead, how can you keep praying for others to be saved and come to
know God. :)


This came to mind also, God hears your prayers like Abraham and Lot where Abraham
begged for the citizens and for God not to destroy the city if it contained righteous people.
Maybe by pleading so hard you are actually thwarting the plans of God! But maybe in your
prayers and pleading you need to allow for God's will also.

So for example a father wants to take his son to the fairground as a special birthday present.
But the son doesn't know that and when he hears the father is taking him out, instead he begs to
go to Macdonalds for a burger! The father really wants to take him on his birthday surprise but
because the son pleads so much he gets taken for a burger instead and misses what the father
actually wanted for him instead.

I know this is a poor example, but sometimes we can ask for things that are contrary to the
will of the father, but out of His love and mercy He gives us them anyway. Does that make sense?

You are a mighty man of God and have lots to do for God, sometimes we can get in the way of
God's plans and purposes in our exuberance to do the right thing. God always sees our heart
though He understands our motives and He won't discipline us for over exuberance, instead He
will just point us to the need for that exuberance to be mixed with discernment. :)