Christian Millennial? What happened to Titus 2?

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I do get that Millennials is a whole age group of diverse people. I was part of the generation known as "The Apathetic Generation." It did fit comparatively to the generation before us, but it ends up it's still a toss up. Many of us did end up in CEO positions (and are in them today.) Many run charities. Most of us did the usual thing -- got married, had kids, raised kids, and did what we could for our communities. And many of us never did care about anything but self.

I assume the same for Millennials. Most of them are your average younger generation, already employed, working out the whole "love and children" thing while figuring out their part in society.

That said, you know the rep. "Entitled." "Get a trophy for showing up." "Whatever they say is golden because no one is wrong."

Yup. See that every day in the world. The 20-something-year-old strutting down the hallways of a VA hospital thinking he is the heights of bravery, boldness, and authenticity, yet totally unaware that half the people he walks by already showed their bravery, boldness and authenticity in battle long ago. The 30-something-year-old who is sure she'll find a man who will marry her and give her babies because she keeps posting how those are her goals and "affirming" that she is great, yet unaware that posting multiple photos of her dog and meals throughout the day doesn't really give an enthusiastic endorsement to, "Yeah, bae! That's what I want in a wife." The kid in the bright sports car zooming up to a light in the left-turn lane to go straight and expecting his boyish grin will win the old lady's heart after she's been waiting for the go ahead in the proper lane for four red lights, because of road work in the right hand lane. That's the world. That's expected.

But what happened in Christianity? What happened that 20-something year olds feel free to tell someone old enough to be their grandparent and who has been a believer since the 20-something's parents were learning how to ride a bike to move over and let them have the stage? What happened that they feel free to tell a long-time believer that they have no idea what they're talking about even after what the older person said was a well delivered dissertation on a subject with biblical evidence to support it? What happened that makes them think they understand the bible even before they learn what "discern" even means? And better than anyone else? And what happened when people who know better (both young people and older people) won't correct that child? (If you act like that, you are a child.)

Did Titus 2 drop out of the Bible altogether? Did it become only something that reinforces the everyone-should-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up for those children? Did someone really decide the kids should run the church? (Funny thing. There are "kids" on this site. The teens and early 20's who act more mature than the Millennials I'm thinking of now.) It's like the church even decided it was okay for them to play in traffic, and the cars are the ones who should behave accordingly.

I get Millennials in the world. They were trained to be that self-absorbed. I don't get them in Christianity though. And I won't ever get that the proper response is to continue to let them play in traffic.
 

maxwel

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I get Millennials in the world. They were trained to be that self-absorbed. I don't get them in Christianity though. And I won't ever get that the proper response is to continue to let them play in traffic.
Our culture doesn't just affect the non-believers.

It affects everyone.

And although millennials are the most affected by the current iteration of our culture, because they're born into it, that doesn't mean older generations are completely immune.
 
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I get Millennials in the world. They were trained to be that self-absorbed. I don't get them in Christianity though. And I won't ever get that the proper response is to continue to let them play in traffic.
"Totally agree..."

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Our culture doesn't just affect the non-believers.

It affects everyone.

And although millennials are the most affected by the current iteration of our culture, because they're born into it, that doesn't mean older generations are completely immune.
Somehow, I think that may be part of the cause.

When I was a kid and said, "Yeah, but everyone is doing it, so why can't I," Mom's answer was always, "If everyone was jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge, should you too?"

It seems nowadays that even within the church we're supposed to give them a ladder to climb onto the railing of the Brooklyn Bridge. Not exactly supported by Titus 2.
 
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I don't know. I think it's common for every generation to pick on the previous one. I'm sure millenials will say the same thing about gen Z
 
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I don't know. I think it's common for every generation to pick on the previous one. I'm sure millenials will say the same thing about gen Z
Meh! Wasn't my next genration that I could pick on. It was their kids. lol
 
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we're all affected in the same way, every generation to some degree...let's stop the whinning
and go for the 'gold', it's held out to us on a huge platter...
 

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I don't know. I think it's common for every generation to pick on the previous one. I'm sure millenials will say the same thing about gen Z
♫ Every generation blames the one before
And all of their frustrations come beating on your door ♪ ♪
 
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we're all affected in the same way, every generation to some degree...let's stop the whinning
and go for the 'gold', it's held out to us on a huge platter...
When we were kids, what happened if you were disrespectful to the parents of your friends? It didn't last long, did it? It was understood, "Not under my roof" extended to every roof, and the parent in any other roof, had every right to deal with you then and there.

I'm not whining about the whiners. I'm saying our response shouldn't be to let the tyke have the tantrum. Deal with the disrespect, because silence is acceptance (in their mind.)

That's the gold. Bring back Titus 2!
 

breno785au

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On this forum (mainly because it's the only place in life where I see manifold discussions by people of all ages) if I am to "correct" or "rebuke" someone I always look at their age first...I feel embarrassed to do that someone much older than myself. If I am to correct, I be as gentle as I can.
1 Timothy 5:1
 

RickyZ

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I do get that Millennials is a whole age group of diverse people. I was part of the generation known as "The Apathetic Generation." It did fit comparatively to the generation before us, but it ends up it's still a toss up. Many of us did end up in CEO positions (and are in them today.) Many run charities. Most of us did the usual thing -- got married, had kids, raised kids, and did what we could for our communities. And many of us never did care about anything but self.

I assume the same for Millennials. Most of them are your average younger generation, already employed, working out the whole "love and children" thing while figuring out their part in society.

That said, you know the rep. "Entitled." "Get a trophy for showing up." "Whatever they say is golden because no one is wrong."

Yup. See that every day in the world. The 20-something-year-old strutting down the hallways of a VA hospital thinking he is the heights of bravery, boldness, and authenticity, yet totally unaware that half the people he walks by already showed their bravery, boldness and authenticity in battle long ago. The 30-something-year-old who is sure she'll find a man who will marry her and give her babies because she keeps posting how those are her goals and "affirming" that she is great, yet unaware that posting multiple photos of her dog and meals throughout the day doesn't really give an enthusiastic endorsement to, "Yeah, bae! That's what I want in a wife." The kid in the bright sports car zooming up to a light in the left-turn lane to go straight and expecting his boyish grin will win the old lady's heart after she's been waiting for the go ahead in the proper lane for four red lights, because of road work in the right hand lane. That's the world. That's expected.

But what happened in Christianity? What happened that 20-something year olds feel free to tell someone old enough to be their grandparent and who has been a believer since the 20-something's parents were learning how to ride a bike to move over and let them have the stage? What happened that they feel free to tell a long-time believer that they have no idea what they're talking about even after what the older person said was a well delivered dissertation on a subject with biblical evidence to support it? What happened that makes them think they understand the bible even before they learn what "discern" even means? And better than anyone else? And what happened when people who know better (both young people and older people) won't correct that child? (If you act like that, you are a child.)

Did Titus 2 drop out of the Bible altogether? Did it become only something that reinforces the everyone-should-get-a-trophy-for-showing-up for those children? Did someone really decide the kids should run the church? (Funny thing. There are "kids" on this site. The teens and early 20's who act more mature than the Millennials I'm thinking of now.) It's like the church even decided it was okay for them to play in traffic, and the cars are the ones who should behave accordingly.

I get Millennials in the world. They were trained to be that self-absorbed. I don't get them in Christianity though. And I won't ever get that the proper response is to continue to let them play in traffic.
Every group (including churches) pulls it's new members from society, and that is the society we have. I noticed it in the fire service before I retired. It used to be that fire departments were manned by people who lived in the community to protect the community they live in. But by the time I retired, we had people who lived 100 miles (or more) away and were there only for a paycheck. Too, in my day we occasionally declined raises and benefits to give something to the retirees. This new generation took a bribe to throw us retirees under the bus. It could be a factor in why so many will turn away from Christ in the end. They just haven't been taught resolve and fortitude. Much less respect and loyalty.
 
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GaryA

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On this forum (mainly because it's the only place in life where I see manifold discussions by people of all ages) if I am to "correct" or "rebuke" someone I always look at their age first...I feel embarrassed to do that someone much older than myself. If I am to correct, I be as gentle as I can.
1 Timothy 5:1
"Kinda makes it a little difficult when their age is not displayed, doesn't it..." ( :p :rolleyes: )

:)

( The parentheses around the smileys mean that the associated 'emotions' are "felt" and "expressed" openly, but that they are not directed at you. )
 

breno785au

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"Kinda makes it a little difficult when their age is not displayed, doesn't it..." ( :p :rolleyes: )

:)

( The parentheses around the smileys mean that the associated 'emotions' are "felt" and "expressed" openly, but that they are not directed at you. )
Then you treat them according to the age you can perceive they are acting and let it rip lol
 
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GaryA

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Then you treat them according to the age you can perceive they are acting and let it rip lol
Nope.

Not me...

For-the-absolute-most-part -- if there is no age displayed - I just ignore them. And, they get no 'likes' from me. I figure -- if they - male or female - don't see fit to ensure that others know the age of the person they are addressing -- then, perhaps, they do not need to be addressed. If they are that determined to 'hide' in obscurity --- why, I am more than happy to go along with that -- i.e. - "I do not see them..." - they are invisible.

( :p )

I like the site, I like the owner of the site, I like the site staff, etc. -- and, I respect their policies and decisions, etc. ; however, this is one thing that I cannot help but have to disagree with them about ( "respectfully, of course" :eek: ). I believe that the gender and age of a person are two of the identifying characteristics that should be mandantory with no exceptions.

I consider the "hiding" of gender or age in an environment such as this to be deception-by-default...

Just sayin'...

:)