Des' Strange Elections Thread

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Desdichado

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Have you ever thought of running for office, but just can't seem where to start?

Have you ever received annoying phonecalls several times a day for two weeks and don't know why they persist even when you angrily hang up?

Have you ever wondered why strange people show up to your door?

Have you ever scratched your head on election night wondering why the guy who looked like he was going to lose won and vice versa?

This is the thread of brass tacks. Every once in a while I'll post things on the technical aspects of political campaigns in the US of A and, occasionally, abroad.

Questions related to polling, media, grassroots, digital, etc are welcome and encouraged. Ideology will be discussed occasionally, but only insofar as it relates to the technical aspects of campaigns.

Welcome to the game. ;)
 

maxwel

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Strange election... this isn't another Calvinist thread right?
 
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Have you ever thought of running for office, but just can't seem where to start?

Have you ever received annoying phonecalls several times a day for two weeks and don't know why they persist even when you angrily hang up?

Have you ever wondered why strange people show up to your door?

Have you ever scratched your head on election night wondering why the guy who looked like he was going to lose won and vice versa?

This is the thread of brass tacks. Every once in a while I'll post things on the technical aspects of political campaigns in the US of A and, occasionally, abroad.

Questions related to polling, media, grassroots, digital, etc are welcome and encouraged. Ideology will be discussed occasionally, but only insofar as it relates to the technical aspects of campaigns.

Welcome to the game. ;)
Lol. When I read the title of this I was thinking you were referring to Unconditional Election. I thought to myself, "Hmm.. I definitely had an unusual conversion, so ya... I am a 'strange election'. Perhaps I belong here!"

Then I read the description. Back to Misfit Toy Island I go. :(
 
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Desdichado

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Oh great. I'm a Reformed Christian who works in elections. I should have seen the humor 10 miles off. Hahahahaha

One of my candidates just became majority whip of a state house. I should call him up and say "many are called, few are chosen."
 

Desdichado

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Very happy for him, by the way. I feel like a proud papa of a man 18 years my senior.
 

maxwel

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Here's a serious question.

In your own opinion, how often do political operatives come to Christian forums like this, pretending to be new members, just to ask weird questions in an attempt to extract particular insights about the Christian voting block?
 

JesusLives

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After this election the Blond is ready to run for office not the hills....which might be a better choice at this point.
 

Desdichado

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My guess is close to never. Maybe a few show up between cycles on a lark to blow off steam, but most are looking at the Christian demographics within their own respective districts and choosing where to go from there.

Here's a serious question.

In your own opinion, how often do political operatives come to Christian forums like this, pretending to be new members, just to ask weird questions in an attempt to extract particular insights about the Christian voting block?
 

Desdichado

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She is one cycle away from turning into an historical figure. Might as well jump into a race while she is still the patron saint of a lost cause. It'd give her plenty of executive political clout and a position to snipe at Trump's policies.

Mayor of his city. A mayor office with more power than most Governors.

If I were a Dem, I'd urge her to take the plunge. As a Republican, I'd rather have NYC pick up another nobody.

After this election the Blond is ready to run for office not the hills....which might be a better choice at this point.
 

Oncefallen

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After this election the Blond is ready to run for office not the hills....which might be a better choice at this point.
She is one cycle away from turning into an historical figure. Might as well jump into a race while she is still the patron saint of a lost cause. It'd give her plenty of executive political clout and a position to snipe at Trump's policies.

Mayor of his city. A mayor office with more power than most Governors.

If I were a Dem, I'd urge her to take the plunge. As a Republican, I'd rather have NYC pick up another nobody.
I almost bust out laughing at Des' response to JL. It would appear that he was unaware that JL was referring to herself as "the Blonde", not that other blonde (who most likely isn't really blonde anymore).
 
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I'm to honest.
Really, Not perfect, but to honest and reliable to hold a political office.:cool:
 

Desdichado

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Glad you got a laugh out of it at the very least :p

I almost bust out laughing at Des' response to JL. It would appear that he was unaware that JL was referring to herself as "the Blonde", not that other blonde (who most likely isn't really blonde anymore).
 
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Do you think the media will continue it's onslaught of Trump by pushing fabricated fake news topics about him. They did it with Bush and pretty much got away with it. Do you think Trump will fight back every time they push another fabricated story against him or against anything conservative for that matter? Do you think he will continue to be successful in exposing the MSM for the fraud that it has become?
 

Desdichado

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Okay homie, you're getting me revved up for work today. A nice little mind exercise before I begin my day of trolling for contracts.

Your first question can be divided into two. So I'll treat it as such.

1. Do you think Trump will fight back every time they push another fabricated story against him?


Not every single time, but every major time, yes. If it's trending on Facebook and Twitter, he'll likely respond. I predict that the Left is going to play it smart and bait him into distraction on minor things so he cannot focus on his major policy objectives.

What he'll then have to do is discredit them as a whole and leave the little fights to his underlings. Either way, he won't respond to each and every bogus claim. Some of them, he'll just have to ignore.

2. Do I think he'll fight back against conservatives?

Absolutely. But you'll notice that in his disputes with conservatives, the overall tone will be different. The House and the White House will clash on a few things, but there will be actual substantive policy discussion. A lot of it will be over his economic populism and their dogged support of global free trade.

In the background of that policy discussion, there will be a wider philosophical struggle over what it means to be a conservative in the present day. That could get fairly nasty and I'm sure he'll weigh in some, but he has shown that philosophical matters are not his bag. He doesn't care.

It will be interesting to see how far "intellectual Trumpism" goes and how it integrates with the populism that has gained a recent bit of popularity.

To sum things up- he'll fight conservatives in policymaking and weigh in on whatever conservative faction poises itself to bolster and protect his legacy.

3. Do you think he will continue to be successful in exposing the MSM for the fraud that it has become?

Excellent question. He'll definitely continue his war with them as an institution. The fact he was elected shows they have little control over how people perceive the overall narrative of things. I think that trend will continue, but not necessarily fast enough for them to be rendered a complete non-factor. There yet lives a generation who gets their news from them and only them.

But a lot of their discrediting if you will is just natural attrition, people are paying less attention to NBC, ABC, CBS, and cable news, because they are chiefly being entertained via internet. A wider availability of sources, real and fake, make discerning and choosing sources an easier affair. This is true across the political spectrum and true shortly before Trump came on the scene.

What he did is kick in the social media door and set himself up as the chief opponent of the dying MSM and the crazy, pronoun-changing, trans-dating, liberals on the internet. He currently has a hammerlock on the growing media platform.

I wouldn't confuse his discrediting of the MSM with discrediting the Left as a whole. The Left will have an Alt Movement of its own. If they learn to adapt to the comparatively conservative voting population's whims at large, they could be wildly successful. If they continue to do the idiotic America-hating and white-shaming, we could see a more permanent state of temperamental conservatism developing in the nation.

It'll be an interesting few years. Don't trust anybody who claims to have a crystal ball. Especially post-2016 Larry Sabato :p












Do you think the media will continue it's onslaught of Trump by pushing fabricated fake news topics about him. They did it with Bush and pretty much got away with it. Do you think Trump will fight back every time they push another fabricated story against him or against anything conservative for that matter? Do you think he will continue to be successful in exposing the MSM for the fraud that it has become?
 
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Desdichado

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Larry Sabato's Crystal Ball is an interesting site to follow by the way. If you'll pardon the pun, they are ordinarily crystal clear.

But they got 2016 wrong. 2016's autopsy was quite a hilarious read. I'd argue they didn't understand how the overall electoral schema has changed.
 
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Have you ever thought of running for office, but just can't seem where to start?

Have you ever received annoying phonecalls several times a day for two weeks and don't know why they persist even when you angrily hang up?

Have you ever wondered why strange people show up to your door?

Have you ever scratched your head on election night wondering why the guy who looked like he was going to lose won and vice versa?

This is the thread of brass tacks. Every once in a while I'll post things on the technical aspects of political campaigns in the US of A and, occasionally, abroad.

Questions related to polling, media, grassroots, digital, etc are welcome and encouraged. Ideology will be discussed occasionally, but only insofar as it relates to the technical aspects of campaigns.

Welcome to the game. ;)

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