I want to make you angry, indignant

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JaumeJ

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Jesus Christ did not teach Christianity

Jesus Christ was a Jew

There was no such thing as Judaism until after Christ, previously there was a theocracy called Israel dwindled down to Judah.

All who knew Jesus called Him by Yeshua, or close to that pronuciation.

The Holy Spirit is ignored in many, perhaps most, denominations calling themselves Christian.

Apostasy does abound today as prophesied by Jesus Christ, and it had already begun at the time of Paul.

Almost all denominations today deny the power of God by their own preaching and actions.

Jesus Christ did not belong to any denomination.

Jesus Christ teaches the faith of Abraham in His Gospel to us. Actually, Abraham hear the Gosple long before Christ's first advent.

None of the above should bother anyone who truly believes, not anyone who is temporarily decevied.

Oh I almost forgot, we are to be obedient childre onf teh Most High and Lofty God, our FAther.

When I first was given to believe Jesus Christ, I was first indignant, then angry, and finally the peace that passes all understanding overcame it all. It is good to be angry if it is righteous ange and it does not lead to sin.

Be angry but do not sin. Know truth when you have received it, even in such things as mere facts.

There is no denomination to which Jesus Christ belongs. He was not a Christian. He was a Jew though of the tribe of Judah, not a denomination. Think children. We are family b ecause of Jesus Christ and never be upset if I or anyone else calls Him Yesua, His family and friends did.

Back to basics folks............It is the way of Christ.
 
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JaumeJ said:
Jesus Christ did not teach Christianity

Jesus Christ was a Jew

There was no such thing as Judaism until after Christ, previously there was a theocracy called Israel dwindled down to Judah.

All who knew Jesus called Him by Yeshua, or close to that pronuciation.

The Holy Spirit is ignored in many, perhaps most, denominations calling themselves Christian.

Apostasy does abound today as prophesied by Jesus Christ, and it had already begun at the time of Paul.

Almost all denominations today deny the power of God by their own preaching and actions.

Jesus Christ did not belong to any denomination.

Jesus Christ teaches the faith of Abraham in His Gospel to us. Actually, Abraham hear the Gosple long before Christ's first advent.

None of the above should bother anyone who truly believes, not anyone who is temporarily decevied.

Oh I almost forgot, we are to be obedient childre onf teh Most High and Lofty God, our FAther.

When I first was given to believe Jesus Christ, I was first indignant, then angry, and finally the peace that passes all understanding overcame it all. It is good to be angry if it is righteous ange and it does not lead to sin.

Be angry but do not sin. Know truth when you have received it, even in such things as mere facts.

There is no denomination to which Jesus Christ belongs. He was not a Christian. He was a Jew though of the tribe of Judah, not a denomination. Think children. We are family b ecause of Jesus Christ and never be upset if I or anyone else calls Him Yesua, His family and friends did.

Back to basics folks............It is the way of Christ.
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I have learned that repentance leads to peace of mind. It's not a popular message, though.
 
notmyown

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i'm not angry or indignant yet.

you'll have to keep trying. ;)
 
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JaumeJ said:
Jesus Christ did not teach Christianity

Jesus Christ was a Jew

There was no such thing as Judaism until after Christ, previously there was a theocracy called Israel dwindled down to Judah.

All who knew Jesus called Him by Yeshua, or close to that pronuciation.

The Holy Spirit is ignored in many, perhaps most, denominations calling themselves Christian.

Apostasy does abound today as prophesied by Jesus Christ, and it had already begun at the time of Paul.

Almost all denominations today deny the power of God by their own preaching and actions.

Jesus Christ did not belong to any denomination.

Jesus Christ teaches the faith of Abraham in His Gospel to us. Actually, Abraham hear the Gosple long before Christ's first advent.

None of the above should bother anyone who truly believes, not anyone who is temporarily decevied.

Oh I almost forgot, we are to be obedient childre onf teh Most High and Lofty God, our FAther.

When I first was given to believe Jesus Christ, I was first indignant, then angry, and finally the peace that passes all understanding overcame it all. It is good to be angry if it is righteous ange and it does not lead to sin.

Be angry but do not sin. Know truth when you have received it, even in such things as mere facts.

There is no denomination to which Jesus Christ belongs. He was not a Christian. He was a Jew though of the tribe of Judah, not a denomination. Think children. We are family b ecause of Jesus Christ and never be upset if I or anyone else calls Him Yesua, His family and friends did.

Back to basics folks............It is the way of Christ.
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Sorry. You failed. (Not angry either.) Please try again. :)
 
Blain

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Confused yes angry no but hey if you wanna keep trying be my guest:cool:
 
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I want to make you joyful, smile :D

“And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

Matthew‬ 18:3‬ NIV‬‬
 
WineRose

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Sorry, didn't work for me! Still my usual chill self ;)

You gotta try harder than that!

[video=youtube;U9mozLkojoM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mozLkojoM[/video]
 
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I guess I join the ranks of those who are not easily made indignant or angry. :)
 
JaumeJ

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If at best wholesale teachings of ignorance is not enought to move a person, I must raise the eyebrow.

It seems apostasy is become the norm, while anything else goes.

You do not need be angry, none of you majority of folks, but at least muster up some righteous indignation., or is your peace so great you do not care about the understanding of the Body members of Yeshua?
 
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GODisLOVE7

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JaumeJ said:
If at best wholesale teachings of ignorance is not enought to move a person, I must raise the eyebrow.

It seems apostasy is become the norm, while anything else goes.

You do not need be angry, none of you majority of folks, but at least muster up some righteous indignation., or is your peace so great you do not care about the understanding of the Body members of Yeshua?
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I care.

Anger is never the answer. Sometimes we stumble and convince ourselves it is. I do it all the time. But it doesn't make it right.

Love wins.

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

Galatians‬ 5:22-23‬ NIV‬‬
 
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JaumeJ

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Teh point is not to be angry, however you are saying the eaching "be angry but do not sin" is to be ignored...so not teach against sound words.

All the people who are not moved by the points stressed in the OP thinking they are unimportant are not considering the fact that these are traditions of man being taught as commandment from God. I know, I have been the brunt of un-soberminded sarcasem and so-called humor since I first came to Jesus Christ.

We are to be sober minded, but many are not. It seems apostasy does not move the majority. It moves me, and seemingly all who love Jesus Christ and hear Him.

No rant some.

GODisLOVE7 said:
I care.

Anger is never the answer. Sometimes we stumble and convince ourselves it is. I do it all the time. But it doesn't make it right.

Love wins.

“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.”

Galatians‬ 5:22-23‬ NIV‬‬
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THIS THREAD IS MAKING ME VERY ANGRY!!! GRRRRRRR. . . . . .hows that JJ?

i agree with what u say. true Judaism is not what the pharisees were teaching (in the days of Jesus) and true Christianity is not whats being taught by most churches.
 
JaumeJ

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It is perfectly understandable if some who truly believe Yeshua are not in the least bit moved by the
attributes cited in the OP, but apathy is inexcuseable. None here should be unmoved by widespread apostasy.k
Adn, as is stated in my OP, I was indignant when I was first given to belie Jesus Christ.

The most horrendous to me is the change of the teaching os Jesus Christ, how many have replaced mercy with condemnation.

One reason I had stopped attending any congregation is that hatred was preached from many pulpits, and that was many denominations. I had stopped attending in my mid teens because of this. My family moved a lot, so I would attend the nears cross bearing church to my new home, only to later realize they were not all the same, but all did preach dfire and brimstone omitting mercy, justice and faith........

Do not be complacent about man's traditions replacing the Word of God. If you think that is just fine, then you do not know your Savior. I do show mercy to all, but this is not being some kind of weakling bending with every breeze...Jesus Christ, Yeeshua is teh Way, the Truth and the Life, amen.

PS, all of you who are not indignant nore angry about the chifts of teaching in Christianity should reexamine what you believe...back to basics, back to Yeshua and His teaching, amen.
 
PennEd

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JaumeJ said:
Jesus Christ did not teach Christianity

Jesus Christ was a Jew

There was no such thing as Judaism until after Christ, previously there was a theocracy called Israel dwindled down to Judah.

All who knew Jesus called Him by Yeshua, or close to that pronuciation.

The Holy Spirit is ignored in many, perhaps most, denominations calling themselves Christian.

Apostasy does abound today as prophesied by Jesus Christ, and it had already begun at the time of Paul.

Almost all denominations today deny the power of God by their own preaching and actions.

Jesus Christ did not belong to any denomination.

Jesus Christ teaches the faith of Abraham in His Gospel to us. Actually, Abraham hear the Gosple long before Christ's first advent.

None of the above should bother anyone who truly believes, not anyone who is temporarily decevied.

Oh I almost forgot, we are to be obedient childre onf teh Most High and Lofty God, our FAther.

When I first was given to believe Jesus Christ, I was first indignant, then angry, and finally the peace that passes all understanding overcame it all. It is good to be angry if it is righteous ange and it does not lead to sin.

Be angry but do not sin. Know truth when you have received it, even in such things as mere facts.

There is no denomination to which Jesus Christ belongs. He was not a Christian. He was a Jew though of the tribe of Judah, not a denomination. Think children. We are family b ecause of Jesus Christ and never be upset if I or anyone else calls Him Yesua, His family and friends did.

Back to basics folks............It is the way of Christ.
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Please show me where Jesus, Paul, or any other NT writer tells US to be angry.
It is true Jesus expressed anger toward the legalistic Pharisees and money changers, but He is God and has a right to judge. He instead tells us to love your enemies and to turn the other cheek.
 
notmyown

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JaumeJ said:
If at best wholesale teachings of ignorance is not enought to move a person, I must raise the eyebrow.

It seems apostasy is become the norm, while anything else goes.

You do not need be angry, none of you majority of folks, but at least muster up some righteous indignation., or is your peace so great you do not care about the understanding of the Body members of Yeshua?
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my apologies. :eek:

i didn't understand that's what you were saying.
 
JaumeJ

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I have two mentions of this teaching. It is speakking of righteous anger, not unfounded anger with a person which is akin to killing or murder.

Eph 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:


Psa 4:4 Be angry, yet do not sin. Think about this when upon your beds, and be silent. Interlude.

Was not our Lord, Himself, righteously furious with the money lenders in the Temple? God bless you and hold you close always.



PennEd said:
Please show me where Jesus, Paul, or any other NT writer tells US to be angry.
It is true Jesus expressed anger toward the legalistic Pharisees and money changers, but He is God and has a right to judge. He instead tells us to love your enemies and to turn the other cheek.
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JaumeJ said:
Jesus Christ did not teach Christianity

Jesus Christ was a Jew

There was no such thing as Judaism until after Christ, previously there was a theocracy called Israel dwindled down to Judah.

All who knew Jesus called Him by Yeshua, or close to that pronuciation.

The Holy Spirit is ignored in many, perhaps most, denominations calling themselves Christian.

Apostasy does abound today as prophesied by Jesus Christ, and it had already begun at the time of Paul.

Almost all denominations today deny the power of God by their own preaching and actions.

Jesus Christ did not belong to any denomination.

Jesus Christ teaches the faith of Abraham in His Gospel to us. Actually, Abraham hear the Gosple long before Christ's first advent.

None of the above should bother anyone who truly believes, not anyone who is temporarily decevied.

Oh I almost forgot, we are to be obedient childre onf teh Most High and Lofty God, our FAther.

When I first was given to believe Jesus Christ, I was first indignant, then angry, and finally the peace that passes all understanding overcame it all. It is good to be angry if it is righteous ange and it does not lead to sin.

Be angry but do not sin. Know truth when you have received it, even in such things as mere facts.

There is no denomination to which Jesus Christ belongs. He was not a Christian. He was a Jew though of the tribe of Judah, not a denomination. Think children. We are family b ecause of Jesus Christ and never be upset if I or anyone else calls Him Yesua, His family and friends did.

Back to basics folks............It is the way of Christ.
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Judaism 101
 
JaumeJ

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If you think in terms of judging others, we are taught, as in my own signature, judge not lest ye be judged for with the judgement we met our so shall we be judged., you know it is just and true, yet we are told to judge for ourselves what is right,
and if we do not do this, Jesus puts us with the hypocrites. The difference here is we are judging what is correct in the sight of god and what is not correct in the sight of God, and this particular judgemnt we make for oursleves only, not for others.

One man may observe the Sabbath of the lord on the Seventh day, while another may do the sam on the first day. Both are correct if they do it with a clear conscience in the sight of the Lord, god. You can see here how we judge only for ourselves what is right, though oft times we know what i wrong in many aspects of our walk in this age.

You knew all of this...God bless you.

PennEd said:
Please show me where Jesus, Paul, or any other NT writer tells US to be angry.
It is true Jesus expressed anger toward the legalistic Pharisees and money changers, but He is God and has a right to judge. He instead tells us to love your enemies and to turn the other cheek.
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