No Bed :(

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Raven2099

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OK I live in a SRO (single soon occupancy) Shelter/Apartment in an NYC HRA (human sorceress) run by Volunteers of America...

Well on 2/11/2017 at around 12:45 am i was laying in bed half asleep when the bed broke....

So I asked the people here on the next Monday for a new bed and was promised one by the end of there work shift (5PM).. Well near work day (4:30PM) and no bed,
they say they are refusing to give me a bed and are unfairly accusing me of calling them the "N" word, (i never did) what I called them here a bunch of lazy good for nothing bigots and Wendigos*.....

I do not have a bed, I believe that this is in direct violation of the us and state fair housing rights....

Weather I said a particular thing or not I am still entitled to a certain inalienable right such as a bed...

I have not had a bed since 2/11/2017.... is there anything I can legally do?
Pray for the situation to remedy...



*the wendigo or windigo is a cannibal monster or evil spirit native to the northern forests of the Atlantic Coast and Great Lakes Region of both the United States and Canada
 

santuzza

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No one has a constitutional right to a bed.

With that said, I pray that you'll find suitable housing. What can you do to earn your keep?
 

Blain

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we have a constitutional right to bear arms ORC.105-2.jpg
but as for a bed if you live there and they own the place or run it sadly in the end it's up to them
 

santuzza

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When you said it was a shelter, I assume you have no lease or pay no rent. Am I correct? If so, you are legally owed nothing.
 
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try to round-up an 'air-mattress' or some 'cushions' until -
and personally, I wouldn't be calling people names, especially
with demonic-under-tones', you could lose a lot more than just
a bed...
 

blue_ladybug

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Next time, keep your mouth quiet and don't call people names.. :/ If the bed is theirs, they should replace it. If the bed is YOURS, then YOU should replace it.
 
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When you said it was a shelter, I assume you have no lease or pay no rent. Am I correct? If so, you are legally owed nothing.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I thought that if one wants to open a shelter they must meet certain guidelines regarding health codes and safety. I would think a bed or at least a cot or sleeping bag would be such a requirement but I'm not sure.
 

CatHerder

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First, I'm sorry that most of the responses so far have not been helpful. I see either poking fun at your situation or people being quick to assume that you are not owed anything.

They may be legally required to keep the facilities in a certain condition, or if not legally, then per the rules of their organization. You need to research this.
Find out what the tenant rights and responsibilities are for the organization.
Have you submitted a written request or has it just been verbal?
You obviously have access to internet, or you wouldn't be on here. Can you provide email or other documentation that you have made the request?
You are dealing with a bureaucracy here, and one that you have unwisely ticked off. Start playing nice and keep a good paper and/or e trail. Basically, stop calling people Canadian cannibal spirits and start being proactive.

As for what to do while waiting - what exactly broke on the bed? The frame? You can still use the mattresses and be quite comfortable. The box spring? Use the top mattress. Are you in a position where you can get an air mattress or something as a temporary measure, as someone suggested?

Hope you get this matter settled soon!
 

santuzza

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It's the sense of entitlement that irks me. No one is entitled to a bed unless one pays for a bed.

Yes, there are standards/codes for shelters. Of course. But to say that one has a constitutional right to a bed? No.
 
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When you said it was a shelter, I assume you have no lease or pay no rent. Am I correct? If so, you are legally owed nothing.
Actually, if it is a shelter, a bed really is a legal requirement.

Raven, try and find a lawyer who does tenant rights pro bono. (Oddly enough, VOA is usually a place you can call to find such lawyers.)

And then there is the obvious thing to do, apologize for any misunderstanding, and try and start again with a lot more humility.

I suspect what really happened is the person who was supposed to place the order got sidetracked before asking, and then simply forgot. People who volunteer for charities, or who work for them, usually aren't lazy. More overwhelmed, because there is more work than workers to do the work.
 

JosephsDreams

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I would not jump to conclusions that this guy feels entitled.
You do not know his back story, or his possible frustration level.
He may be grateful for having a place to sleep. Maybe even without a bed. But if the impression they gave him when he got there was that he would have a bed, it is not unreasonable for him to expect one, even if it is a freebie or hand out, so to speak.

As far as him getting into it with the staff and workers, well he is the one who needs to figure out the best way to deal with them. Maybe he needs to pray more for wisdom. That part I do not know.

And we need to pray for him and his situation in general and for all homeless people, regardless their attitude. He did ask for our prayers. How many of you acknowledged that?

When hurricane Sandy hit my wife and I and our two little girls were living in the 8th houses from the beach front, in Rockaway, NYC. It was late Oct. We lost all power. The basement was completely flooded, right up to the ceiling.

The morning after it looked like a war area. While I have never been in a actual war but I have seem news reels and was a 9/11 first responder. So I know what a war torn area looks like.

Long story short, the whole community was inhabitable for many months. Sand on the streets 3 feet high. Garbage from all the damage piled, literally, 7 feet high in front of every home. Cars completely flooded over the roof.

We sent the girls to my sister in-law in Vermont, and we stayed in the house for about 3 weeks before the mold started setting in and the nights got to cold. No gas, no electric, no heat, no cooking, no running water.

It was impossible to find a place to rent, because so many people were displaced. There was just nothing available. We had no one in nearby Brooklyn or Staten Island Manhattan we could stay with. For many reasons, but on of them being that some of those places where we might have been able to stay were also uninhabitable. Some were already filled to the brim with people who moved out the next day or the week after the storm and there was no more room.

So we moved into my junkyard and lived in my office either on the desk, or on the floor with a blow up bed and sometimes had to sleep in a car at night.

No shower, no place to cook. We did have running water and a sink though.

My wife was in her third year after being diagnosed with breast cancer.

We were not able to find a place that was close enough to my work and with the right number of rooms at a price we could afford until late January.
I had met a lot people and had a bunch of conversations with many people in those months who were in similar situations.

While the circumstances had marked differences with the OP, the result was the same. Homeless with no place to sleep.

It is a horrible feeling.
I would not wish on anyone.
 
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