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    Default "Ancestor Angels" and "The Cokeville Miracle" (Account/Movie)

    Ok. I was pretty into this movie...until the kids' accounts of seeing angels was...all their relatives.

    A Mormon directed this (I believe) and Cokeville is primarily a Mormon town.

    I still cried at the end when it showed the survivors with their families. I found it beautiful they ALL had on average, 4-5 kids (some more) I only saw 1-2-3 that had 2-3 kids. Wow! Clearly - they all value life and see children as a blessing after coming out of that insane situation.

    But...ancestor angels? This isn't biblical. Can anyone offer input? To this point my studies have led me to agree with the fact demons can impersonate "angels of light" and - are highly aware of not only what we look like but personal information etc ... so accounts like this always make me wonder if they are involved. But in this case they weren't really giving information to deceive but actually helped the kids out, as well as were possibly responsible for some other unexplainable events in the days prior and that day.

    It does (the movie) try to seem to point people to God/Christ however... I wonder about the town and what beliefs could have been/were enforced by this seemingly wonderful event coming out of potential mass tragedy.


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    For the record the movie was pretty accurate from what I read after watching it. Big details, all lined up.
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    I believe that in order to comfort us, angels can take on any form God wants them to. Be it human, animal, flower, etc. That's JMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    I believe that in order to comfort us, angels can take on any form God wants them to. Be it human, animal, flower, etc. That's JMO.
    Angels can take ANY form?

    So... like... uhh... for all you know... it could be ME?

    Yeah?
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    Ladybug I liked your comment because I do not doubt God's power to accomplish that.

    However in Scripture we only see them as men, or, quite horrific creatures we can barely explain.
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    I am not even sure the Cokeville accounts said any of these "Angels" were men. All I saw/read were female ancestors. If anyone could enlighten me on the Mormon beliefs...do they have some type of ancestor thing? I think I read somewhere they think families "never die" in a sense? Not saying I do not somewhat agree with that but really, we will all be more like brothers and sisters in heaven, but I have leaned on some crazy ideas for heaven myself, that I really dare not share with many yet (all based in scripture Thoth...as "they" all claim too haha)
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    Well, I've seen it up close and personal, so yes they can. I do believe that. I have read many stories of people needing help out of a dangerous situation, and a man or woman or animal showed up, helped them and then poof..disappeared without a trace. Are you doubting that God can transform them into humans if need be?


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    Angels can take ANY form?

    So... like... uhh... for all you know... it could be ME?

    Yeah?





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    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    Well, I've seen it up close and personal, so yes they can. I do believe that. I have read many stories of people needing help out of a dangerous situation, and a man or woman or animal showed up, helped them and then poof..disappeared without a trace. Are you doubting that God can transform them into humans if need be?
    Are you doubting I could be one?
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    Have you ever read the Angels On Earth magazines? If not, you should. If a donkey can talk, and a man survive in a whale's belly for 40 days, then NOTHING is impossible for God. Luke 1:37 proves it.


    Quote Originally Posted by CLee622 View Post
    Ladybug I liked your comment because I do not doubt God's power to accomplish that.

    However in Scripture we only see them as men, or, quite horrific creatures we can barely explain.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    No. You very well could be somebody's angel. Doesn't the bible state that we have entertained angels unaware?If that's true,obviously they would have to be in human form as someone we minister to.


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    Are you doubting I could be one?





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    No. You very well could be somebody's angel. Doesn't the bible state that we have entertained angels unaware?If that's true,obviously they would have to be in human form as someone we minister to.
    Good.
    Glad we cleared that up.

    Now, if you ever forget that... I'll be sure to remind you.
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    Ok. I can't agree we can be angels. Now, the word angel can be translated "messenger" so we can be that. But angels and humans ARE 2 different races...and WE have a Savior. Angels do not. That is why we have demons, and they have always been destined for hell since they fell.
    I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge — that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

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    Texting my ex-Mormon friend about it some. I'm concerned....this event might have driven a whole town into more cultic beliefs. However...I do not mean to limit the arm of God. He can save anyone anywhere. But Mormonism itself goes, almost completely against scripture while simultaneously using it as a springboard.
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    I get chills (the bad kind) when someone says "heaven got another angel" when someone died....it says we will be LIKE them (in full obedience basically) but NOT "angels" ... and I can't see scripturally how our souls can leave God once we go to Him :: "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment."
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    I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge — that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwel View Post
    Angels can take ANY form?

    So... like... uhh... for all you know... it could be ME?

    Yeah?
    Oh! Good grief! NO!!!!!!!
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    I don't mean that we can be actual angels. But we certainly can be an angel to someone, can't we?


    Quote Originally Posted by CLee622 View Post
    Ok. I can't agree we can be angels. Now, the word angel can be translated "messenger" so we can be that. But angels and humans ARE 2 different races...and WE have a Savior. Angels do not. That is why we have demons, and they have always been destined for hell since they fell.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    Oh! Good grief! NO!!!!!!!
    Whatever man.

    But Ladybug said right in public that I could be an angel.

    So deal with it.




    Yeah... I could be a manifestation of divine goodness.

    You're probably sitting there right now thinking how lucky you are.
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    Mormonism is a cult, not a religion..


    Quote Originally Posted by CLee622 View Post
    Texting my ex-Mormon friend about it some. I'm concerned....this event might have driven a whole town into more cultic beliefs. However...I do not mean to limit the arm of God. He can save anyone anywhere. But Mormonism itself goes, almost completely against scripture while simultaneously using it as a springboard.





    Quote Originally Posted by pottersclay View Post
    Blue_ladybug is innocent, as we know in scripture " all people who like orange tabbies are innocent."
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    LOL.. I'll use that defense the next time I get accused of something.. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    Mormonism is a cult, not a religion..
    Right - reason I mention this event may have just driven an entire town into more cultic beliefs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maxwel View Post
    Whatever man.

    But Ladybug said right in public that I could be an angel.

    So deal with it.




    Yeah... I could be a manifestation of divine goodness.

    You're probably sitting there right now thinking how lucky you are.
    Will you grant me three wishes?
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