Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

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Prov910

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Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)
 

Magenta

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An atom is finite, and God is infinite. While God could inhabit the atom,
He would also always transcend the atom as well. :) God being omnipotent
is not to be taken to mean that God can or would do things that defy logic.
God cannot/will not do things that contradict His character, either.
 

Blain

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All things are possible with God
 
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Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)
There is something God can't do. He can't do what is outside his nature. For instance, he can't sin. It's against his nature.

So, can he make a rock he can't pick up or make himself the size of an atom? I don't know, except to think of God in those terms is putting God into the form and nature of a human, and he's not a mere human either. He's God. He could put himself in human form. We know that, so the best these questions can be answered is "Can God, in human form, make himself the size of an atom?" "Can God, in human form, make a rock too big to pick up?"

It might be helpful to your son to stop picturing God as just another human.
 
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Why can't a atom be a big atom, can God create a atom so big that the whole universe is within that atom.
 

Prov910

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It might be helpful to your son to stop picturing God as just another human.
He doesn't. And you shouldn't fabricate things about people. You should know better than that. /facepalm
 
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He doesn't. And you shouldn't fabricate things about people. You should know better than that. /facepalm
It is also good to read what I said, instead of getting all pissy about what I didn't say. I never said your son thinks that. I said, "It might be helpful to your son [for you]* to stop picturing God as just another human."

Your son is six. He doesn't have a great grasp on the world yet. He's not supposed to. His six. It's great to be six.

You're his father. You're supposed to be helping him gain that grasp. The "Can God make a rock too big to pick up" has been such a long standard for atheists that Christians should have thought this out the first time they heard it.

I honestly don't expect your son to get this yet. At his age, I thought I lived in North America in the winter and South American in the summer. I didn't move. It just depended on what time of year you asked me that I'd give either answer. This is what kids do. And then parents are supposed to clarify where the misstep is made. This is what parents do.


*implied. It's a thing in English.
 
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Why can't a atom be a big atom, can God create a atom so big that the whole universe is within that atom.
I sometimes wonder if the universe isn't just a complex atom for something even bigger. :)
[video=youtube;GJLeBM6-AaM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJLeBM6-AaM[/video]
 

Prov910

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"It might be helpful to your son [for you]* to stop picturing God as just another human."
I don't. And you shouldn't fabricate things about people. You should know better than that. /facepalm

Why do you do this to people? Do you treat people like this in real life too?
 
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He become as small as a dividing embryo in his mother's stomach :)
 
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Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)

It depends how you view the world. Those old mental exercises of "could God make a rock so heavy that even he could not move it?" are timeless. I think they are fundamentally flawed though, because they originate from humans, who by their very nature are extremely limited and they think in limited terms and they impose (even if not consciously aware of it) limits on God in order to relate to Him. Anthropomorphizing God does not help to answer questions like that.

If you take all a human being can see, can hear, can feel, can detect...it is the merest sliver of information compared to what is out there in creation. We, as human beings, are grossly handicapped when it comes to understanding the nature of creation. Look for example at time...what is time? Is it merely the voids between the occurrences of two events? Is it something more? Is it even real? Being a creation of God, wouldn't that mean, by default, that God is Himself beyond time and by extension, beyond our understanding of time? We exist in 4-dimensional space-time (if you accept that and don't jump ahead immediately to more esoteric modern theories), but just as a higher-dimensional entity can detect and interact with lower dimensions (you can read a book which is 2-dimensional, you can deal mathematically with 1-dimensional entities and constructs), does that not mean by extension that God is a higher-dimensional being? If He created the dimensions we are in, he has to be on a level higher than we are. How high? I don't know. My brain turns to oatmeal past the 5th dimension when I try thinking about it.
 
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Prov,

I see Lynn as expressing her own personal view on the 'subjects' you first posted...

always, understanding 'a grain-of-salt' is very helpful in our receiving other's opinions...
never, never, take it personally, other-wise, you are doing yourself a dis-service...
GBY you and yours...
 

Prov910

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Prov,

I see Lynn as expressing her own personal view on the 'subjects' you first posted...

always, understanding 'a grain-of-salt' is very helpful in our receiving other's opinions...
never, never, take it personally, other-wise, you are doing yourself a dis-service...
GBY you and yours...
I suspect you are referring to the first thread I started in which I attempted to discuss a topic that I've been grappling with: LINK. And you are saying that it's Lynn's personal view that I picture "God as just another human." But the thing is, I've never said that, and I don't believe that. So when her personal views are false statements simply pulled from thin air and attributed to me, I think it might be best to correct her. If I don't deny a false statement that she has attributed to me, it might lead people to believe that I agree with it. And I don't.
 

Laish

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Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)
Interesting question. If you think about it through I believe you can get a (for me it was ) a mind blowing answer . God is or can be bigger than all creation ( the universe) and smaller than the smallest particles that make up a atom. This is my thinking not any doctrine. First thing is God created everything,the universe an all that's in it . He even designed the ways that we can measure his creation . The ideas of size ,weight ,and even time is a part of His handy work. God preexisted all these things ,so he cannot be defined by them . So if you look at it from the perspective that God is outside of all creation I think idea of size dose not work . God is just God . Our words can only come up short when we try to describe God .
thats my two cents
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All things are possible with God
Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)
:)You had to know that was coming.
 
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Any other answer would be speculation on the part of the one that was made by GOD trying to describe GOD by their Intellect.
 

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if it's not "lie" or otherwise "sin" -- then really, what thing will we ever say God could not do, if it were to please Him?

;)

what i want to know is what possible scenario the little kid was considering in his mind that hinged on whether or not God could do this thing...
 
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Could God make Himself as small as an atom?

Okay, before someone tells me this is a stupid question, I should mention that my six-year old son asked me this last week. LOL :)

I didn't really know how to answer this question at first. I've talked to him in the past about how God is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. So I guess his inquisitive six-year old mind was wondering whether there is anything that God *can't* do. After pondering his question for a minute I told him that I think nothing is impossible for God. And even though I don't know how it could possibly be done, yes, I do think God could make Himself as small as an atom.

How would you answer this question? :)
The heaven and the heaven of heavens cannot contain God,for He is an omnipresent Spirit,and that is what He is,and nothing less,and cannot be any less than what He is,an omnipresent Spirit.

But God can take control of any physical thing,such as an atom,and beef it up,elevate it,amp it up to beast mode,and have it do way more than what was original designed for it to do,for He has the power to do so,which if God wanted could amp up a person to be able to run a hundred miles an hour,if He so desires,for if God powers that physical thing it will go beyond what God required it to do.

In fact if God did amp up a person by His power,taking control of that person,and using that person,that one person would whip the crap out of every other person on the planet,as soon as that human could get to them,where through the process of time everybody on the whole planet would be lying on the ground by one person,if God so desires.

Some people do not realize how awesome God is,which He is so awesome beyond comprehension as to be able to control every thing in the entire universe,that cannot be touched for harm,for God cannot tear,cannot come apart,cannot blow up,cannot disintegrate,cannot be harmed by anything,for how can you harm a Spirit that is in all and through all,which passes through all creation,and does not go around it,and physical matter,and objects,cannot stop the Spirit of God,cannot separate the Spirit,cannot touch the Spirit,cannot come in contact with the Spirit.

Nothing can come in contact with the Spirit to even touch the Spirit,and God is in all and through all,and flows through all of creation,and the physical objects do not touch Him,and do not come in contact with Him.Nothing can touch God,and you thought mother nature was tough,and God can control every single thing in the entire never ending universe.

God is an omnipresent Spirit,and that is what He is,and cannot be any less than an omnipresent Spirit,but God can take control of things physical and power them to be more than what He intentionally designed them to be,and if God wanted to He could take one small organism,and run it through a person and ravage them until they were dead,and could use that one organism,and wipe out all of humanity,if He wanted to do it,for that is how awesome God is,but he cannot become an atom Himself,for He is an omnipresent Spirit and cannot be any less,and His Spirit can never be reduced in size.

Jesus is God manifest in the flesh,but God did not make Himself man,for He cannot be any less than an omnipresent Spirit,but He became the power source of the man Christ Jesus,and beefed Him up to be sinless by His Spirit,although the man Christ Jesus is the personal human body of God,but that physical body is not God,but controlled by God,for God cannot be anything less than an omnipresent Spirit,but can control physical objects,and can make them more beefed up than what He intentionally designed,but He cannot become anything physical.

God could create a being the size of the planet,or a being the size of a human,and that being could still wipe out all of humanity powered by God,for God has control of all physical matter,or if God made them a super being could do it for the way God created them,which superman would have nothing on the being God could create,if He so desired.