The scriptures talk about God giving people over to the sinful desires of their hearts. While you can speculate they have miserable lives these people delight in wickedness including those with the power to punish their evil deeds. Not to mention those who serve Satan receive many of their fleshly desires, but at a high cost.
Say something positive about grace.
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I totally agree with you here...
Originally Posted by FreeNChrist
2 Cor 7.10 says as much....[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death.
Capon was an Episcopalian Priest and was a very deceived universalist....Nowhere does it say that we have forgiveness before the Holy Spirit convicts of sin.
Originally Posted by FreeNChrist
2 Cor 7.10 says as much....[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death.
Capon was an Episcopalian Priest and was a very deceived universalist....Nowhere does it say that we have forgiveness before the Holy Spirit convicts of sin.
You are in deception if you adhere to Capon, his whole grace theology was universalist in nature and nowhere in the Bible does it say we have forgiveness before we repent...if that was true then people would not need the Holy Spirits conviction...
Romans 5.8 does not apply here, because God's love will carry you straight to hell...
Romans 5.8 does not apply here, because God's love will carry you straight to hell...
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Capon is great. And no he wasn't a universalist. Here's another that is positive about grace...
“Grace is the celebration of life, relentlessly hounding all the non-celebrants in the world. It is a floating, cosmic bash shouting it’s way through the streets of the universe, flinging the sweetness of its cassations (music) to every window, pounding at every door in a hilarity beyond all liking and happening, until the prodigals come out at last and dance, and the elder brothers finally take their fingers out of their ears.” - Robert Farrar Capon
“Grace is the celebration of life, relentlessly hounding all the non-celebrants in the world. It is a floating, cosmic bash shouting it’s way through the streets of the universe, flinging the sweetness of its cassations (music) to every window, pounding at every door in a hilarity beyond all liking and happening, until the prodigals come out at last and dance, and the elder brothers finally take their fingers out of their ears.” - Robert Farrar Capon
