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Why was the Bible written this way?

No matter which side of the fence you sit on, pertaining to a wealth of "esoterically interpreted" verses, the Bible seems to be very definitely and deliberately written so that just the opposite of what you see will be read by millions of other people looking at the same verses.

This honestly does seem to be a consistent and recurring theme in that book. And, I am sure we each have equally disparaging opinions as to why this is so.

What is yours?
 
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I think maybe it's because salvation is made simple for us through faith. To me, faith draws a very thin line and creates a dividing wall of ideas in us that shapes our way of thinking and ultimately our way of life. I don't know how to explain it better but I believe it's connected to how easy it is to receive God's salvation making it, in turn, easy to also miss it.
 
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It's written in a way that requires the indwelling presence of the divine Spirit within our own spirit. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
 

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Why was the Bible written this way?

No matter which side of the fence you sit on, pertaining to a wealth of "esoterically interpreted" verses, the Bible seems to be very definitely and deliberately written so that just the opposite of what you see will be read by millions of other people looking at the same verses.

This honestly does seem to be a consistent and recurring theme in that book. And, I am sure we each have equally disparaging opinions as to why this is so.

What is yours?
People need the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to understand what they need to understand about the Bible when they need to understand it....

But as the Bible says there are a lot of people out there who it calls the childeren of disobedience that are lead by another spirit and the inspiration that spirit gives will cause them to invent all kinds of twisted and weird interpretations of what the Bible is saying..

Ephesians 2: KJV
2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

So the question is what spirit is working in an individuel? Is it the Holy Spirit or the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in the children of disobedience?
 

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Why was the Bible written this way?

No matter which side of the fence you sit on, pertaining to a wealth of "esoterically interpreted" verses, the Bible seems to be very definitely and deliberately written so that just the opposite of what you see will be read by millions of other people looking at the same verses.

This honestly does seem to be a consistent and recurring theme in that book. And, I am sure we each have equally disparaging opinions as to why this is so.

What is yours?
Interesting and great question Willie.
One thing I have noticed is that the Bible is written in such a way that it demands a second,a third,and may more readings to grasp a deeper understanding of many subjects. I believe God intended that way so we can continue to always seek after Him.
If we were to be given it all in a one and done fashion I believe our fallen human nature would cause us to look after something new .
Also there is much to be said that in many cases we get out of the Bible what we bring to it . Cultural biases play a large part in how we understand what is written in the Bible. It is hard to get around that one brother. I believe we should pray that we bring as little bias to the Word of God as We can .
I hope that makes sense.
Blessings
Bill
 

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I suspect it has something to do with what the Lord said to Isaiah in 6:9: "Go and tell this people: 'Keep on listening, but do not perceive; keep on looking, but do not understand...'"
 
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It's written in a way that requires the indwelling presence of the divine Spirit within our own spirit. Spiritual things are spiritually discerned.
Would that, then, make the other person who does not read verse "X" the same as I do, devoid of that Spirit? Or would it be me who doesn't have it?
 
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People need the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to understand what they need to understand about the Bible when they need to understand it....

But as the Bible says there are a lot of people out there who it calls the childeren of disobedience that are lead by another spirit and the inspiration that spirit gives will cause them to invent all kinds of twisted and weird interpretations of what the Bible is saying..

Ephesians 2: KJV
2 "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:"

So the question is what spirit is working in an individuel? Is it the Holy Spirit or the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that works in the children of disobedience?
Same question as above.....
Would that, then, make the other person who does not read verse "X" the same as I do, devoid of that Spirit? Or would it be me who doesn't have it?
 
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Would that, then, make the other person who does not read verse "X" the same as I do, devoid of that Spirit? Or would it be me who doesn't have it?
Or does that make you both devoid of the Spirit or both indwelt by the Spirit? Hmmmm.
 
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Interesting and great question Willie.
One thing I have noticed is that the Bible is written in such a way that it demands a second,a third,and may more readings to grasp a deeper understanding of many subjects. I believe God intended that way so we can continue to always seek after Him.
If we were to be given it all in a one and done fashion I believe our fallen human nature would cause us to look after something new .
Also there is much to be said that in many cases we get out of the Bible what we bring to it . Cultural biases play a large part in how we understand what is written in the Bible. It is hard to get around that one brother. I believe we should pray that we bring as little bias to the Word of God as We can .
I hope that makes sense.
Blessings
Bill
Interesting. That's much the way I think about this quandary.
 
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Or does that make you both devoid of the Spirit or both indwelt by the Spirit? Hmmmm.
Meaning, then, that a THIRD view would be the "correct" one? What of a fourth view, or a fifth view. Or a sixth?
 
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Does anyone here think how we see The Word can change? (NO!!! I did not say the Word changes... I asked if how we see it can change.)

And, if our understanding CAN change, does that mean either our first perception... or our new one... has to be "right" or "wrong?"
 
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Meaning, then, that a THIRD view would be the "correct" one? What of a fourth view, or a fifth view. Or a sixth?
Meaning that those who have the Spirit can discern spiritual things, but not that they necessarily always will.
 
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Meaning that those who have the Spirit can discern spiritual things, but not that they necessarily always will.
"Discernment." Now, there's a big one. Just about everyone thinks they have it. (And I feel few really do, but that's neither here nor there.)

So, if we are convinced we are discerning all things, but, as you said, we may not be (but just KNOW we are), how do we decide if we are, or aren't?
 

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When we pray and ask for God's guidance He will make His word plain to us. I call the Bible the never ending story because the minute I have finished the book I start reading it again and I find things that I say to myself - I have read this book many times before and why didn't I get this then.

I think God is teaching us and leading us to more understanding as we go along. Our spirits aren't always willing to be taught and accept what God's word says but He continues to hold our hands and hearts and lead us on and eventually we get a point and move on to another. This is growth and we aren't all at the same level so this is why there may be so many different understandings but God's word is true and He will guide us into all truth...

I'm not more right than you are and your aren't more right than me we just see things differently and are at a different understanding... God knows our hearts and motives so I will leave it to Him...

In the mean time we should be patient with one another and learn to love as we have been instructed to do toward one another... I know I'm working on that one too...
 

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Does anyone here think how we see The Word can change? (NO!!! I did not say the Word changes... I asked if how we see it can change.)

And, if our understanding CAN change, does that mean either our first perception... or our new one... has to be "right" or "wrong?"
I don't believe that we necessarily get things wrong if we approach the Word of God with prayer and a seeking attitude . Leaving as much of our personal biases at the door as possible . Yes our understanding dose change . That is to be expected. For me it's like steeping into a swimming pool. At first the water is waist high things start getting different as you move forward eventually you are going to need to start swimming. The pool didn't change but my place in it has . Dose that make sense?
Blessings
Bill
 
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"Discernment." Now, there's a big one. Just about everyone thinks they have it. (And I feel few really do, but that's neither here nor there.)

So, if we are convinced we are discerning all things, but, as you said, we may not be (but just KNOW we are), how do we decide if we are, or aren't?
If we are convinced, we have decided we are. Haven't we??
 
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When we pray and ask for God's guidance He will make His word plain to us. I call the Bible the never ending story because the minute I have finished the book I start reading it again and I find things that I say to myself - I have read this book many times before and why didn't I get this then.

I think God is teaching us and leading us to more understanding as we go along. Our spirits aren't always willing to be taught and accept what God's word says but He continues to hold our hands and hearts and lead us on and eventually we get a point and move on to another. This is growth and we aren't all at the same level so this is why there may be so many different understandings but God's word is true and He will guide us into all truth...

I'm not more right than you are and your aren't more right than me we just see things differently and are at a different understanding... God knows our hearts and motives so I will leave it to Him...

In the mean time we should be patient with one another and learn to love as we have been instructed to do toward one another... I know I'm working on that one too...
I really like that. But, sadly many won't. One man on here once told me he had learned all there was for him to know by the time he was seventeen, as I recall. He's 59 now, so that would mean he has seen nothing new in the Bible for 42 years. To me, this is kind of frightening.
 

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Does anyone here think how we see The Word can change? (NO!!! I did not say the Word changes... I asked if how we see it can change.)

And, if our understanding CAN change, does that mean either our first perception... or our new one... has to be "right" or "wrong?"
That is called growing in understanding, is it not? Even Jesus grew in understanding (wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man). Being complete is part of an ongoing process of maturation.
 
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If we are convinced, we have decided we are. Haven't we??
I wonder if us having that kind of thinking might be the reason Jesus preached "repent?" (Biblical meaning of the word used here.)