How to know if it is the right time to get baptized

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Contrary to what some people believe baptism is essential for salvation.

Jesus said a person must be born of the water and Spirit.

Baptism also does now save us,not the washing away of the filth of the flesh,but a good conscieneness towards God.

If we are planted together with Jesus in the likeness of His death,we shall also rise with Him in the likeness of His resurrection.

The man Christ Jesus is human,and died,was buried,and rose from the dead.

The saints are human,and must go through the same three things as the man Christ Jesus to identify with Him,but we do it symbolically,and are a living sacrifice unto God.

We repent of our sins,which means turn away from sins,and are water baptized,which is for the remission of sins,and we receive the Holy Spirit.

The thief on the cross acknowledged Jesus as Lord and Savior when he said,Lord remember me when You come into your kingdon,and Jesus said,today you will be with Me in paradise.

Baptism can be bypassed in certain situations,could not get to it and perished,lack of understanding and perished.

A person should get baptized when they sorry for all their sins they have ever committed,and does not want sin anymore,then baptism will wash away their sins,and if they sin after that,give it up,and do not hold unto sin,and the blood of Jesus washes it away.

The Bible says if a person wilfully sins then there is no more sacrifice for sins,which if we sin the blood of Jesus washes the sin away,but if we hold unto sin the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away,for Jesus will not take away sin that we want to hold unto,and if a person sins,repents of the sin,and holds unto it,and then sins,repents of the sin,and holds unto it,they are truly not repenting of that sin,for it means to let go of the sin,as if you were holding unto a wolverine clawing your face to shreds,let it go.

That sin is clawing you to shreds spiritually,let it go.
 
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Yahweh_is_gracious

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I'm not going to say anything else about this. I have told you what has been told to me, and I have stated why I have not yet been baptized. There isn't anything more to question nor explain. You are entitled to think I am wrong, or stubborn, or as many around here claim that I am a complete "phony". You can use your Bibles to beat the hell out of me for my decisions. It won't make any difference. The matter is settled.

This kind of crap where members just leap onto something I say like ravenous dogs is ridiculous. I'm not up in your business because it's not my business. There is no need to look at a person's posts as an invitation to try to help. I have not asked for your help, and it is not welcomed. I am sorry for even posting. Most of the time I do well about keeping my fingers off the keyboard around here because I know how people are going to react. I messed up this time, and I see where it got me. I'll be more aware in the future and keep my thoughts to myself. Now, please go back to your discussion and leave me out of it.
 

hornetguy

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I can only tell you what I've been told by the pastors I have asked about baptism. It's an odd situation. I'd like to be baptized someday, but I'm not going to hang my hat at a particular building and claim some denominational title in order to do so.
Yeah, anyone that tells you that you have to be baptized into their church is just wrong. You are being baptized into CHRIST'S church... the whole family of believers... the universal "church" of Christ.

It is such a simple thing to do... I mean, if you can be riding along in your chariot and stop at a pond and be baptized, why do people try to make it so complicated? It is (to me) fulfilling your part of accepting the free gift of salvation... your part of that covenant. In the same manner that the Jewish men were circumcised as a sign of their being a part of the covenant of God with the Hebrews.

And, it's WAY easier than circumcision.... :rolleyes:
 
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christianwoman90

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Contrary to what some people believe baptism is essential for salvation.

Jesus said a person must be born of the water and Spirit.

Baptism also does now save us,not the washing away of the filth of the flesh,but a good conscieneness towards God.

If we are planted together with Jesus in the likeness of His death,we shall also rise with Him in the likeness of His resurrection.

The man Christ Jesus is human,and died,was buried,and rose from the dead.

The saints are human,and must go through the same three things as the man Christ Jesus to identify with Him,but we do it symbolically,and are a living sacrifice unto God.

We repent of our sins,which means turn away from sins,and are water baptized,which is for the remission of sins,and we receive the Holy Spirit.

The thief on the cross acknowledged Jesus as Lord and Savior when he said,Lord remember me when You come into your kingdon,and Jesus said,today you will be with Me in paradise.

Baptism can be bypassed in certain situations,could not get to it and perished,lack of understanding and perished.

A person should get baptized when they sorry for all their sins they have ever committed,and does not want sin anymore,then baptism will wash away their sins,and if they sin after that,give it up,and do not hold unto sin,and the blood of Jesus washes it away.

The Bible says if a person wilfully sins then there is no more sacrifice for sins,which if we sin the blood of Jesus washes the sin away,but if we hold unto sin the blood of Jesus cannot wash it away,for Jesus will not take away sin that we want to hold unto,and if a person sins,repents of the sin,and holds unto it,and then sins,repents of the sin,and holds unto it,they are truly not repenting of that sin,for it means to let go of the sin,as if you were holding unto a wolverine clawing your face to shreds,let it go.

That sin is clawing you to shreds spiritually,let it go.
I agree. By the way what do you mean by holding on to a wolverine clawing my face?
 
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christianwoman90

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Yeah, anyone that tells you that you have to be baptized into their church is just wrong. You are being baptized into CHRIST'S church... the whole family of believers... the universal "church" of Christ.

It is such a simple thing to do... I mean, if you can be riding along in your chariot and stop at a pond and be baptized, why do people try to make it so complicated? It is (to me) fulfilling your part of accepting the free gift of salvation... your part of that covenant. In the same manner that the Jewish men were circumcised as a sign of their being a part of the covenant of God with the Hebrews.

And, it's WAY easier than circumcision.... :rolleyes:
I thought I had to belong to a church in order to baptize. I don't know I'd feel weird to appear in a random church and ask "I wish to baptize in this church, can you fit me in the church's baptization schedule ,please?" .
 

CherieR

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I thought I had to belong to a church in order to baptize. I don't know I'd feel weird to appear in a random church and ask "I wish to baptize in this church, can you fit me in the church's baptization schedule ,please?" .
You don't need to be in a church to be baptized. It doesn't even have to be a pastor, just a brother or sister in the Lord. I asked a friend of mine to do it because in church when I was first baptized, the person didn't dunk me all the way. I was baptized in a river the second time. I can guarantee that some of the people in the book of Acts didn't belong to a church when baptized.
 
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christianwoman90

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I've never heard of membership and baptism going together like that.
To say you can't be baptised because you are not an official church
member is absurd.

On the other hand I know of people who are official church members who aren't
baptised.

The way it works in my church is that unless you are involved
in certain ministries there is no requirement to be an official church member.

Those ministries include the worship team, any of the children's work
and a couple of others. For us church membership means to put yourself
under the authority and accountability of the church. It has no relevance
at all to baptism which is a matter for each individual in their walk with Christ.

If church won't baptise you because you are not an official church member,
then I would say leave them to their made man rules and find somewhere else.
They are hindering people not helping them.

On the other hand if they won't baptise you because they don't know much
about you and they don't know if you are a Christian, then that would be
a different matter. But that can be overcome just by attending the church
but not becoming a member.
Exactly. It just would feel weird to show up in a christian church ang right away schedule it.
 

hornetguy

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I thought I had to belong to a church in order to baptize. I don't know I'd feel weird to appear in a random church and ask "I wish to baptize in this church, can you fit me in the church's baptization schedule ,please?" .
I'm certain that some churches think that you have to be a part of their church to be baptized, but scripture certainly does not back that up. I don't think that churches should have a "baptism schedule".... it should be "on demand". If someone wants to be baptized, it should be done immediately, in my opinion.... what possible reason could there be for waiting?

Personally, I don't think "the church" has to be involved. I've known many, many people who were baptized with only a handful of people there. People in study groups that are wanting to be saved/baptized... why wait?

I've also heard of churches requiring a person to go through some course of study before they will baptize them. In some instances, I can almost see the desire for that as legitimate, but certainly not in all cases.

What did Philip say when the eunuch asked "what prevents me from being baptized?"

[SUP]36 [/SUP]As they went along the road they came to some water; and the eunuch *said, “Look! Water! What prevents me from being baptized?” [SUP]37 [/SUP][[SUP][m][/SUP]And Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”] [SUP]38 [/SUP]And he ordered the [SUP][n][/SUP]chariot to stop; and they both went down into the water, Philip as well as the eunuch, and he baptized him. [SUP]39 [/SUP]