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Miri

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Something I have found on more than one occasion, is that
I can be far too independent. More often than not God can't work
on my behalf as I charge in with what I want, my ideas, my way of
doing things, my goals etc.

Then when I get desperate enough and end up in a crumpled mess
and finally step aside. Its like God says, finally I can do it my way now!

Ive found time and time ago that is when prayers get answered and
miracles happen. Sometimes the answers are not what I want and I
wonder what on earth God is playing at. Then a bit later I will come
to understand that Gods way was far better, that things align up far better
than I could ever have worked out myself.
 
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#42
So Willie, you don't think maybe God allows some of us to stay afflicted our entire lives so that we can become stronger in our faith and turn to Him more often?? I believe in healing as much as anyone, but not for myself.. And contrary to popular belief, God WON'T heal ALL of us in THIS lifetime.. Not in a one time shot anyhoo.
(All rhetorical questions you don't have to answer here. But things you might want to check out for yourself.)

Is it strengthening your faith? Do you turn to him more often? And, I mean more often than two years ago, or five? Not more often than when you weren't a believer. Or is it resignation?

How have you grown in God? How has God used your disabilities? (And testimonials are usually the past, not the present.)
 
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#43
You are complaining about this person, for more than what you admit.
If this person was really as bad as you say, then you shouldn't be afraid to name him/her.
Or is something this person says about you the truth and you don't want to face it?
Tell us more.
Gee, what would CC be without the gossip mill and the others/they/them?

Fairly quiet.
 
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#44
I'll tell you what kind...
The kind that cannot be trusted.

It's easy to get along with your friends,
but Jesus said we are also to get along with our enemies, who apparently are those who do not agree with some doctrine or other.

I'd like to see less talk about the bible,
and more action.

That would be nice.

See you around somewhere or other...
I'd actually like to see more talk about the Bible. Most the talk on here is off-shoots of some small part of the Bible, and not all that much about the one behind the Bible -- God!
 
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#45
Something I have found on more than one occasion, is that
I can be far too independent. More often than not God can't work
on my behalf as I charge in with what I want, my ideas, my way of
doing things, my goals etc.

Then when I get desperate enough and end up in a crumpled mess
and finally step aside. Its like God says, finally I can do it my way now!

Ive found time and time ago that is when prayers get answered and
miracles happen. Sometimes the answers are not what I want and I
wonder what on earth God is playing at. Then a bit later I will come
to understand that Gods way was far better, that things align up far better
than I could ever have worked out myself.
God has a couple usual methods for getting my attention. He waits for me to crumple or he horse-collars me right smack in the middle of me rushing to try to get something done he never wanted done like that.

Horse-collar is more painful, but in the long run it's quicker. lol
 

blue_ladybug

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#46
1. Is it strengthening my faith? YES. :) I'd literally be dead if it wasn't for my faith..

2. I turn to Him every day. :) Especially when my back is out and I gotta get up and to the toilet before I pee myself..lol


I'd say I've grown because BEFORE my back started getting bad around age 27 or so, I NEVER turned to Him. Just went and did my own thing, my own way...

I'd say God uses them to make me more empathetic to those who suffer with the same disease, or at least the same pain.. I know the agony of sciatica, the fear of a steroid shot in my spine because of a herniated disk, and the terror of going into a grand mal seizure and not knowing if I'll come out of it okay, or as a vegetable or dead.. And these are things I wouldn't wish on anyone.


(All rhetorical questions you don't have to answer here. But things you might want to check out for yourself.)

Is it strengthening your faith? Do you turn to him more often? And, I mean more often than two years ago, or five? Not more often than when you weren't a believer. Or is it resignation?

How have you grown in God? How has God used your disabilities? (And testimonials are usually the past, not the present.)
 

AllenW

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#47
God has a couple usual methods for getting my attention. He waits for me to crumple or he horse-collars me right smack in the middle of me rushing to try to get something done he never wanted done like that.

Horse-collar is more painful, but in the long run it's quicker. lol
Three comments in a row and not a word about the Bible.
 
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Three comments in a row and not a word about the Bible.
Here's something about the bible:

While I'm gone, could you please explain

2 Peter 2:20-22

Lata...
 

BillG

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#52
I for one have been on every side of the healing debate.
Mostly I've always believed God wants us healed.
Yet I find myself and my wife suffering from illnesses that the doctors have no answers for.
Maybe it's the result of my lifestyle in the past.
I was poor with a poor diet.
I was a drug addict and alcohol abuser for 18 years.
I suffered agent orange exposure in Viet Nam and are feeling the affects of that more now then ever before.
And I've had every Christian I know pray for me since it all began many years ago.
Am I suppose to suffer?
Good question?

But what about my wife?
She suffers from many ailments too, some for many years.
And she is a sweet holy woman of God.
Is she suppose to suffer too?

Or is it true that not all of us will be healed.

God does keep us alive.
My recent emergency AAA abdominal aneurysm surgery, the doc said I should of died, he called it a miracle I didn't die.
And my wife, she had a stroke in her eye that blinded her. A stroke through the eye instead of going to the head.
He said she should have been blinded for life.
that's what always happens.
But for some reason, the clot got through the eye and through the body and she has full eye sight again.
The doc called it a miracle.

So here we have 2 sick people who don't seem to ever get better, yet God is performing miracles in our lives and we are proclaiming these miracles every where we go.

I don't understand it all, but I keep going on.
Amen

I for one are sure thankful your still around.
 

BillG

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#53
Gee, what would CC be without the gossip mill and the others/they/them?

Fairly quiet.
Romans 1:29
Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip.

Shame really.

one would rather hope it would be a place of building each other in love.

Maybe we see more of this

John 13:34-35
So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other. Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.”
 

Socreta93

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#54
A women in my church has cancer and she has prayed for healing. My pastor always mentions that God answers in his time not ours. She then once said that her prayer was not for healing but to reveal to her the reason why she got that illness and in what way can she serve the Lord by helping other people. I've seen healing done in the church, you will never convince me that gift of healing isn't real. Not all who claim to practice the gift I believe, some have been proven false but I believe there are those out there who are pure and credible. \

I do get annoyed that everyone has to get questioned by every little thing because as much as they say hey know the bible, they inadvertently stray away from Jesus message. God can do anything, that is something he people should remember. He rose from the dead, why can't he hail whatever sickness their is?
 

Jimbone

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#55
Too much gossip here.
Too much arguing.
Not enough God.
Wow really? I don't know you at all, but after you attack my friend with a comment like this
Yes. You're very discreet Magenta.
In words. But not in action.
Hate spews out of you.
You should seek some kind of help.
Seriously.
Apparently Jesus is not enough to change your behavior...
You are really playing "Holier than thou"?

Again I don't know you at all, but you behavior is not matching your suggested moral superiority. What''s your problem with Magenta? And are you offended by truth? I've always found her comments pretty solid and in line with His word.
 
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Healing

Some are healed some are not, but all will die.
In a church full of elderly people who are slowly decaying with MS, Parkinsons disease,
various heart diseases, cancer, who are prayed for, and some healed while others stay
stable and then fall off a cliff and die.

The you do not need medicine group are dead, because put simply, without it a lot of
people would not be alive now.

A simple list - alergies - ashma, eczema, nut allergies, celiac, epilepsy, diabetes.

These all have medications and strategies to handle them.
Now if one believes God wants this all healed and believers to know freedom from
this it could be done. But I have never heard of this happening.

So when you have seen people with cancers, fail to respond to treatment, be prayed
for and then simply die, while others do respond to treatments, and much prayer you
know it is literally in the Lords hands and we have little perception of what is going on.

So this is not academic, this is stuff every sunday has an application.
We have a woman who has had bone development issues her whole life, yet has survived
and is going for an operation to resolve a painful shoulder, is this unbelief or just God providing
a real answer to a real problem through the understanding of medicine. But for some this is
just evil, and replacing God and His healing hand, or is it not showing love to those in need so
they can serve longer.
 

AllenW

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#57
So what? Not EVERY word we say, has to be about the bible..
Depleted said,
I'd actually like to see more talk about the Bible. Most the talk on here is off-shoots of some small part of the Bible, and not all that much about the one behind the Bible -- God!

blue bugs says, "so what?"

This forum is full of nutty women!
 
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#58
Three comments in a row and not a word about the Bible.
What? You want me to be like you and go for eight? Sorry. Not your kind of game player.
 
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#60
A women in my church has cancer and she has prayed for healing. My pastor always mentions that God answers in his time not ours. She then once said that her prayer was not for healing but to reveal to her the reason why she got that illness and in what way can she serve the Lord by helping other people. I've seen healing done in the church, you will never convince me that gift of healing isn't real. Not all who claim to practice the gift I believe, some have been proven false but I believe there are those out there who are pure and credible. \

I do get annoyed that everyone has to get questioned by every little thing because as much as they say hey know the bible, they inadvertently stray away from Jesus message. God can do anything, that is something he people should remember. He rose from the dead, why can't he hail whatever sickness their is?
You know what's really weird. I've often told how God miraculously healed me of a chronic UTI. (Ain't pretty, but still a miracle.) I've told how he healed me from a bee sting. (I'm allergic to bees, but nothing happened when about-to-be-hubby prayed over that sting.) And, I've told how God took seven months to heal hubby from a as-close-as-you-can-get-to-fatal heart attack, and let him come back home to me.

Not once has anyone ever questioned me about what I've experienced. (Well, one banned-member told me I spend way too much time asking for prayers for hubby when I should be preaching the gospel, but he didn't question me about hubby being healed.)

I've often wondered why people accept these things from some, but not all.