WHAT CONSTITUTES ABUSE IN THE FORUMS? WHERE ARE THE MODERATORS?

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JoDel

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I haven't been here long enough to know how the forums are monitored to protect people. I know everyone has a right to express their opinions and views and I believe wholeheartedly in that. But where is the fine line between passionate opinion and verbal abuse? I have witnessed a few particular members that show NO Christ-like qualities in their behavioral responses toward NEW members, hurting members, and veteran members. I know people can be reprimanded and banned... but what does it require to achieve that?:( :mad:
 
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JoDel

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I haven't been here long enough to know how the forums are monitored to protect people. I know everyone has a right to express their opinions and views and I believe wholeheartedly in that. But where is the fine line between passionate opinion and verbal abuse? I have witnessed a few particular members that show NO Christ-like qualities in their behavioral responses toward NEW members, hurting members, and veteran members. I know people can be reprimanded and banned... but what does it require to achieve that?:( :mad:
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Christians..The most Infantile and Viscious People on the Planet[/h]
Did the title get your attention? Good! I've noticed that when Christians get together to discuss the Word, very little Word actually gets discussed. Instead, if somebody disagrees with you they are wrong! They are heritics, blasphemers, they are anathema. Then they are accused of pushing some kind of 'Ism" Catholicism, Protestantism; Episcopalianism, Lutheranism, Methodism, Presbyterianism; Mormonism, Seventh-Day Adventism, Unitarianism; Shi’ism, Sufism, Wahhabism,
animism, apocalypticism, Calvinism, creationism, evangelicalism, fundamentalism, humanism, inerrantism, mysticism, occultism, Pentecostalism, premillennialism, Puritanism, revivalism, sacramentalism, secularism, shamanism, trinitarianism, unitarianism, Zionism,

The fact of the matter is....They have grown more than you have, or they have not grown as much, Their experiences are different from yours giving them a different view of the same thing, like facets of the same gem.

Who are we to condemn anybody simply for disagreeing with us? We don't act much like Christians. We act like cannibals looking to eat each other
What? You don't like me saying that? Then go talk to God about it. Not the god of pride but the ONE GOD​
 

tourist

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I agree that there are some who's sole purpose is to bully and disrupt but this is probably true is all walks of life. Eventually,these members do get weeded out after a period of time. To me that's kind of sad as I don't want to see anyone get banned unless they are truly evil or only here to self-advertise themselves. The best course of action is to pray for these disruptive members and show them the true love of God by how we conduct ourselves in the forums. You have raised a very valid issue but I'm afraid that I don't have a more definitive answer.
 

blue_ladybug

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You can report them by clicking the triangle with an ! in it, at the bottom left of each post. Like Tourist said, they'll get banned eventually.. They always do.. LOL
 
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JoDel

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Christians..The most Infantile and Viscious People on the Planet


Did the title get your attention? Good! I've noticed that when Christians get together to discuss the Word, very little Word actually gets discussed. Instead, if somebody disagrees with you they are wrong! They are heritics, blasphemers, they are anathema. Then they are accused of pushing some kind of 'Ism" Catholicism, Protestantism; Episcopalianism, Lutheranism, Methodism, Presbyterianism; Mormonism, Seventh-Day Adventism, Unitarianism; Shi’ism, Sufism, Wahhabism,
animism, apocalypticism, Calvinism, creationism, evangelicalism, fundamentalism, humanism, inerrantism, mysticism, occultism, Pentecostalism, premillennialism, Puritanism, revivalism, sacramentalism, secularism, shamanism, trinitarianism, unitarianism, Zionism,

The fact of the matter is....They have grown more than you have, or they have not grown as much, Their experiences are different from yours giving them a different view of the same thing, like facets of the same gem.

Who are we to condemn anybody simply for disagreeing with us? We don't act much like Christians. We act like cannibals looking to eat each other
What? You don't like me saying that? Then go talk to God about it. Not the god of pride but the ONE GOD​
I BORROWED THIS FROM ANOTHER THREAD THAT SEEMED TO FIT. :rolleyes:
 
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JoDel

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unless they are truly evil or only here to self-advertise themselves.
These are the ones to whom I am referring. Heated, passionate, and zealous ... I get that! I DO them... But mean and evil and on attack mode to slice and dice the OP is inexcusable behavior.
 

Seekingfamily

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Bible table manners. If someone disagrees with what I say, I will ask them to please pass the plate of scripture. I will not argue with someone who does not come as a dove, I won't let them have the power to my mouth by insulting back. We were told that many wolves are out there, so I expect snarls. But that is all it is...growling, and nashing of teeth. Maybe that is how werewolves came about. Someone declared another a wolf, and seen how it affected someone else to behave in the same manner. God's silver bullets here. No matter what, until Jesus comes back, God said we will experiece these things. I do hope though, that when in disagreement, others would take a look at what they say. Than I hear scripture rattle my mind..."Who can bridle their tongue.
 
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JoDel

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You can report them by clicking the triangle with an ! in it, at the bottom left of each post. Like Tourist said, they'll get banned eventually.. They always do.. LOL
THANK YOU! Now I need to go back to a few threads and get "click happy"... Thanks again Blue!:cool:
 
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Ugly

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THANK YOU! Now I need to go back to a few threads and get "click happy"... Thanks again Blue!:cool:
You'll not want to get "click happy" or your complaints will be met with a questionable expectation. Simply making a complaint does not mean it is valid, but rather means they will look into it. And not seeing anything done does not mean nothing was done. If and how mods deal with things is usually kept quiet.
Lastly if they're veteran users they've likely been reported.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Id be worried about what others definition of abuse are, actually.

I mean if they are following you on every thread picking on you, thats abuse.

If they stoop to calling you stupid, that should certainly be something a person should get a warning over.

Having a heated debate cuz someone disagrees with you shouldnt count as abuse though.

Id be worried about someone who reports anyone who gets into a disagreement.
 

Blain

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Well the bdf is a majorly popular forum where most Christians( aka judgemental bible thumpers :rolleyes:) frequent at a very massive pace and we have only a few moderators all volunteers and try to keep us in check but lets be honest even if we had six mods in the bdf the issue isn't a lack of mods or a lack of banning it's body of the forum itself.

We are like children we never seem to listen or learn we love to argue and prove we are right and others are wrong we looooooove to show how biblically adept we are and a lot of us speak on this issue and speak of love yet how many put their words into practice? It isn't enough to know that love is greatly needed in the forums because if we are not willing to show it then we are just all talk. I remember there was a major troll on this forum a hard core Atheist and he was purposely baiting everyone in the bdf to argue and attack him he name called he used and twisted scripture and even blasphemed God and most everyone was taking his bait and argued and attacked him they name called him and used scripture to attack him.

But there was one person he sudden;y turned his focus to and that was me, the reason for this was because no matter how much he attacked me name called me used scripture against me or blasphemed I continued to respond in a loving calm and mature manner. Eventually he openly said to me that he has been trying to bait me for a while now but unlike everyone else I wouldn't take the bait. He was banned not long afterwards but one day came to cc under a new username only for the sole purpose to message me and tell me that i was not like other Christians he had met and the way I showed him love and gentleness even under such harsh attacks made him curious to seek God.

I never heard from him after that but I have always believed that even one response in love can make a difference and this person was proof of that
 
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JoDel

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You'll not want to get "click happy" or your complaints will be met with a questionable expectation. Simply making a complaint does not mean it is valid, but rather means they will look into it. And not seeing anything done does not mean nothing was done. If and how mods deal with things is usually kept quiet.
Lastly if they're veteran users they've likely been reported.
Thank you for the information. My reference to "click happy" was a statement to Blue, who "understands" what and who I meant. Simply ONE mean, abusive, rude, and tormenting member.
 
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JoDel

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Id be worried about what others definition of abuse are, actually.

I mean if they are following you on every thread picking on you, thats abuse.

If they stoop to calling you stupid, that should certainly be something a person should get a warning over.

Having a heated debate cuz someone disagrees with you shouldnt count as abuse though.

Id be worried about someone who reports anyone who gets into a disagreement.
This didn't happen to me. I witnessed an abusive tormentor responding to someone hurting terribly. That hurting person left when they could have benefitted from the caring people. ~ I can hold my own, but hate to see others hurt.:mad:
 
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JoDel

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I need to clarify this topic. I think debates, heated or otherwise are great. They cause us to "check ourselves". Disagreements are healthy for the same reason. I, myself, have not encountered a problem. But today, I witnessed a vicious attack on a hurting person. Someone in need of comfort and advice, who was chased out of the venue by "the attacker". I felt so sorry for the OP who needed kindness and received accusation and condemnation. ~ Again, I LIKE diversity... it's great for the heart AND mind. I just don't like bullying... :rolleyes:
 
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JoDel

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Well the bdf is a majorly popular forum where most Christians( aka judgemental bible thumpers :rolleyes:) frequent at a very massive pace and we have only a few moderators all volunteers and try to keep us in check but lets be honest even if we had six mods in the bdf the issue isn't a lack of mods or a lack of banning it's body of the forum itself.

We are like children we never seem to listen or learn we love to argue and prove we are right and others are wrong we looooooove to show how biblically adept we are and a lot of us speak on this issue and speak of love yet how many put their words into practice? It isn't enough to know that love is greatly needed in the forums because if we are not willing to show it then we are just all talk. I remember there was a major troll on this forum a hard core Atheist and he was purposely baiting everyone in the bdf to argue and attack him he name called he used and twisted scripture and even blasphemed God and most everyone was taking his bait and argued and attacked him they name called him and used scripture to attack him.

But there was one person he sudden;y turned his focus to and that was me, the reason for this was because no matter how much he attacked me name called me used scripture against me or blasphemed I continued to respond in a loving calm and mature manner. Eventually he openly said to me that he has been trying to bait me for a while now but unlike everyone else I wouldn't take the bait. He was banned not long afterwards but one day came to cc under a new username only for the sole purpose to message me and tell me that i was not like other Christians he had met and the way I showed him love and gentleness even under such harsh attacks made him curious to seek God.

I never heard from him after that but I have always believed that even one response in love can make a difference and this person was proof of that
Please see my post of "Clarifying this topic"... it will explain why I started this thread...
 

SparkleEyes

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Id be worried about what others definition of abuse are, actually.

I mean if they are following you on every thread picking on you, thats abuse.

If they stoop to calling you stupid, that should certainly be something a person should get a warning over.

Having a heated debate cuz someone disagrees with you shouldnt count as abuse though.

Id be worried about someone who reports anyone who gets into a disagreement.
I completely agree. Oftentimes many of us have different definitions of the same term. One person may think a heated, although respectful, discussion is abuse, while an avid and skilled debater may think the discussion is fun and completely harmless.

If someone has been exposed to true verbal abuse by a trusted person (say a husband), oftentimes they are overly sensitive to any kind of seemingly harsh words.
 

WineRose

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I need to clarify this topic. I think debates, heated or otherwise are great. They cause us to "check ourselves". Disagreements are healthy for the same reason. I, myself, have not encountered a problem. But today, I witnessed a vicious attack on a hurting person. Someone in need of comfort and advice, who was chased out of the venue by "the attacker". I felt so sorry for the OP who needed kindness and received accusation and condemnation. ~ Again, I LIKE diversity... it's great for the heart AND mind. I just don't like bullying... :rolleyes:
Wot? Is there a troll that I am not yet made aware of? Where is thread?!
 
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JoDel

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Wot? Is there a troll that I am not yet made aware of? Where is thread?!
I'm sure you can understand that I won't expose names, nor the thread. I wasn't looking to publicly "ream" them. Being new, I was just curious about "rules" that would protect others. :eek: