Is talking about offensive weapons acceptable in a Christian community?

[mj007]

Weapons kill people. Whether you use it as a door stop, for sport killing defenceless animals, target practice, home protection, offensive weapons are designed to either mutilate, or kill a human being.

So regardless of what you are glorifying about an offensive weapon, to me, it still connects to the fact that they kill people.

Maybe in America, you would teach your kids about guns like that is normal. But in other parts of the world, I'm sure that parents would keep their kids away from talk of guns.

You could talk about a baseball bat for example, which is connected to baseball. But we all know this is an object which is often used as an offensive weapon, but is not designed for that. So if you were talking about using it as an offensive weapon, eg. beating up sand bags as target practise, or smashing up watermelons, then you are not really talking about baseball are you?

When it comes to guns, it doesn't matter what the target it, the point at which the trigger is pulled and a bullet is fired it has become actively offensive and dangerous.

I know this is very cultural in America, normalised, but I assume this is an international community, not just an American community, and not a community where Americans are allowed to override the fact that this is an international community?

Not every country in the world has such relaxed gun rights as America has, and neither does every country want it to be that way. Where do all the mass shootings happen? I'll tell you now, if mass shootings would happen from a UK 2nd Amendment, I'd rather not have one. I think things are fine just the way they are.

 

[blue_ladybug]

PEOPLE kill people. A weapon only becomes lethal in the hands of the person doing the killing..

 

[notmyown]

you know what you don't have to do?

read threads you don't like.

 

[notmyown]

oh, sorry, that wasn't sarcasm. i joined in 2012 and just figured that out 2 years ago.

 

[shittim]

"Weapons kill people. "

the major premise is incorrect.

 

[lil_girl]

sorry i don't understand.....

 

[Zi]

Some don't mind being a block of stumbling. If it feels good and they like, they do it..
Nobody's perfect they'll claim.. All the while no rent heart or crying out to please the one they say they love..
Just a "who are you" response... Or look away...

Sometimes it's hard to hold back when injustice prevails.. look at The Psalms.. or Paul calling out Peter....

 

[Zi]

You know what is meant.

"Weapons kill people. "

the major premise is incorrect.

 

[shittim]

I know what is erroneously meant.
When we reach the stage of wrong living where we believe an inanimate object is capable of
willful violence, we may be nearly irretrievable.
I don't think a "subject" can understand what it means to be a "CITIZEN", oops, darned "caps lock"

 

[shittim]

You would have to dumb down the populace to the point of where some of it is at, at this juncture of history, to fall
for such an obvious exposure of their true agenda behind.
I see that the incorrect major premise exposes much of why and how a "subject's" beliefs may not fathom what it means to be Citizen of the United States of America.
best wishes, nearly done with this thread.

 

[88]

Weapons kill people. Whether you use it as a door stop, for sport killing defenceless animals, target practice, home protection, offensive weapons are designed to either mutilate, or kill a human being.

So regardless of what you are glorifying about an offensive weapon, to me, it still connects to the fact that they kill people.

Maybe in America, you would teach your kids about guns like that is normal. But in other parts of the world, I'm sure that parents would keep their kids away from talk of guns.

You could talk about a baseball bat for example, which is connected to baseball. But we all know this is an object which is often used as an offensive weapon, but is not designed for that. So if you were talking about using it as an offensive weapon, eg. beating up sand bags as target practise, or smashing up watermelons, then you are not really talking about baseball are you?

When it comes to guns, it doesn't matter what the target it, the point at which the trigger is pulled and a bullet is fired it has become actively offensive and dangerous.

I know this is very cultural in America, normalised, but I assume this is an international community, not just an American community, and not a community where Americans are allowed to override the fact that this is an international community?

Not every country in the world has such relaxed gun rights as America has, and neither does every country want it to be that way. Where do all the mass shootings happen? I'll tell you now, if mass shootings would happen from a UK 2nd Amendment, I'd rather not have one. I think things are fine just the way they are.

***offensive weapons have their place***for example we would still be under British control if the colonist had no weapons (no offense)***protecting your home from intruders has it place also---waiting for the police to come with their billy club could be a problem (no offense)...

 

[Tommy379]

I've been staring at the "offensive weapon" for 2 hours, since this thread started, it still hasn't killed me.

 

[Desdichado]

When did discussing weaponry become offensive in Christian circles?

This is just a question for thread visitors to chew on. Mj is on my permanent ignore list.

 

[dcontroversal]

PEOPLE kill people. A weapon only becomes lethal in the hands of the person doing the killing..

Amen and I was thinking that most mass killings happen in Muslim countries with Russian and Chinese made Ak-47s.........

 

[Ugly]

Weapons kill people. Whether you use it as a door stop, for sport killing defenceless animals, target practice, home protection, offensive weapons are designed to either mutilate, or kill a human being.

So regardless of what you are glorifying about an offensive weapon, to me, it still connects to the fact that they kill people.

Maybe in America, you would teach your kids about guns like that is normal. But in other parts of the world, I'm sure that parents would keep their kids away from talk of guns.

You could talk about a baseball bat for example, which is connected to baseball. But we all know this is an object which is often used as an offensive weapon, but is not designed for that. So if you were talking about using it as an offensive weapon, eg. beating up sand bags as target practise, or smashing up watermelons, then you are not really talking about baseball are you?

When it comes to guns, it doesn't matter what the target it, the point at which the trigger is pulled and a bullet is fired it has become actively offensive and dangerous.

I know this is very cultural in America, normalised, but I assume this is an international community, not just an American community, and not a community where Americans are allowed to override the fact that this is an international community?

Not every country in the world has such relaxed gun rights as America has, and neither does every country want it to be that way. Where do all the mass shootings happen? I'll tell you now, if mass shootings would happen from a UK 2nd Amendment, I'd rather not have one. I think things are fine just the way they are.

That's right. It is an international forum, so you should expect to see views and cultural norms different than yours.
Your post reminds me of American liberals. Easily offended and needs a safe space from differing views. Because those with differing views are bad and need to be censored.
Congratulations. You are now exactly like an American liberal. May God have mercy on your soul... if you have one.

 

[dcontroversal]

I've been staring at the "offensive weapon" for 2 hours, since this thread started, it still hasn't killed me. View attachment 171984

Nor will it...same thing here....can see about 8 hot weapons from where I sit and none of them have moved, nor killed anyone....as a matter of fact I have had weapons for 40 years and have killed no one, robbed no one, assaulted no one....etc....

 

[RickyZ]

Weapons kill people. Whether you use it as a door stop, for sport killing defenceless animals, target practice, home protection, offensive weapons are designed to either mutilate, or kill a human being.

So regardless of what you are glorifying about an offensive weapon, to me, it still connects to the fact that they kill people.

Maybe in America, you would teach your kids about guns like that is normal. But in other parts of the world, I'm sure that parents would keep their kids away from talk of guns.

You could talk about a baseball bat for example, which is connected to baseball. But we all know this is an object which is often used as an offensive weapon, but is not designed for that. So if you were talking about using it as an offensive weapon, eg. beating up sand bags as target practise, or smashing up watermelons, then you are not really talking about baseball are you?

When it comes to guns, it doesn't matter what the target it, the point at which the trigger is pulled and a bullet is fired it has become actively offensive and dangerous.

I know this is very cultural in America, normalised, but I assume this is an international community, not just an American community, and not a community where Americans are allowed to override the fact that this is an international community?

Not every country in the world has such relaxed gun rights as America has, and neither does every country want it to be that way. Where do all the mass shootings happen? I'll tell you now, if mass shootings would happen from a UK 2nd Amendment, I'd rather not have one. I think things are fine just the way they are.

But you have let people into your country who want to kill you. They don't need guns, they'll use a delivery truck if they have to. So again, it's no so much a question of do we want weapons that can kill people, but a question of why do we want to kill each other so much?

 

[DarkRose]

When did discussing weaponry become offensive in Christian circles?

This is just a question for thread visitors to chew on. Mj is on my permanent ignore list.

seems like there is nothing that be discussed in Christian circles where someone, somewhere, will not take offense.
What is the world coming to?

Nice quote at the end of your post, btw.

 

[Rachel20]

Good point about different cultural norms and views.

Then you go and comment about the soul of American liberals. Nice display of hypocrisy and idiocy. Good example.

That's right. It is an international forum, so you should expect to see views and cultural norms different than yours.
Your post reminds me of American liberals. Easily offended and needs a safe space from differing views. Because those with differing views are bad and need to be censored.
Congratulations. You are now exactly like an American liberal. May God have mercy on your soul... if you have one.

 

[zeroturbulence]

I'd just like to say that I don't have a problem with people discussing gun rights, either for or against....

But I do have a problem when someone starts calling people idiots and posting offensive memes that portray a group of people as retarded, unsanitary hillbillies, and accusing them of having mental issues! That behavior is uncalled for and those who engage in it have no class at all. It doesn't matter if it was meant as a joke or not. It was disrespectful and offensive!


Now, in the matter of the gun enthusiasts thread... I just wanted to create a thread where gun enthusiasts can talk about guns without having it turn into another gun rights debate because those debates have already taken over the old gun thread. So any posts about guns just gets lost among all the debate posts.

I don't haven any problem with the other threads taking on the debate... debate your hearts out! But I just wanted ONE thread that wasn't taken over by debate!