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I have made changes to the resume. What do you think, now?
Now you're getting above average range. Great improvement.

Suggestions:
-- I love the objective now, except for one little nitpick on it. Isn't "cost-savings" a synonym for "efficiency?" I'd drop "cost-savings."

-- Drop forward slash. In the first sentence replace it with "and," plus uncap "develop." In the Skills section replace it with commas, except in the case when the slash really is part of the abbreviation. (EPROM / EEPROM) However, get rid of the spaces added before and after your slash. EPROM/EEPROM. Grammatically speaking there are no spaces around slashes.

-- Be more specific. Truly tell what you did. Because I can't speak tech-talk anymore, (and was at toddler level only because hubby had to learn the words himself), I'm going to put these words in CP3O language. Uncle Skywalker asked CP3O if he could speak binary...blahblahblah. CP3O, never to lose a moment to brag, never said "Yes." He said he worked on blahdeblahblahblah which is very similar to your evaporators." In like kind you really did do something specific more than once. Tell the specifics, and anyone in the know, (like Uncle Skywalker), will translate that into, "Well, he created a program to make the widget work in XYZ business, so he can create the similar program to work in our facility to make our widgety work too." They want to know what you can do to see if your skills are adaptable in their environment. If you become too general, they won't know what you can do in their environment.

-- If the sentence works the same without a word(s), delete the word(s_. For instance: "but also," "at every level," (particular because I think you covered every level), "Same" as in "Another version of the same program," "both," and "the following exhibits...." (For that last one, doesn't the whole resume exhibit that?)

-- I don't quite get that part. I mean I get you want to boast on your DOS abilities from back-in-the-day, but it sticks out like wearing a plaid suit. It's not like the rest of that section, and it should be like the rest of that section. If you delete the paragraph before that, delete the paragraph after that, and add the ~ thingy at the beginning of that, it will fit like the rest, and it does give good hints how long you've been at this as well as, (I'm assuming, although I really don't understand the lingo to know for sure), you are showing what those two paragraphs are telling. You don't need to tell, if you show.

-- Why mention oscilloscope and Cadence Virtuoso design suite more than once? Bring it up at the better choice.

-- Since the Personal doesn't say anything that anyone else wouldn't say, (even the dishonest and lazy), I'd consider removing it. Let your objective, skills, and experience do the talking for you.

-- Nope. nope, nope nope. Education! Since you went to for more schooling after high school, no way, no how tell about when you graduated high school. It's just not done, it's a rookie mistake, AND your letting them in on how old you are, ya old coot. (LOL, you're younger than I am.) Companies do discriminate on age, and you're the age they discriminate on. They're seeing, "By the time we get him to doing the job right, he'll retire." OR they're seeing, "He's no kid so will expect more pay. We can get a younger guy for much less." Never give them leverage on deciding who you are as a person before meeting you. They will meet you and figure out you're no spring chick, but they've chosen to meet you from your skills, not for your age.

-- Likewise, a bit iffy on telling you went to a technology institute. After Y2K was fixed, the computer techie filed was over saturated. Before then, they hired computer techies for six-figures, because those were the people who already proved their wroth. Since it was flooded, after Y2K, they had the choice of whoever they wanted. AND they could pay much less. AND they could get pickier. Instead of hiring people who developed what we know as the computer today from scratch, they hired recent college graduates with BSs for $25,000-$35,000 to start. No idea if they're still discriminating like that anymore, but you really do not want to tell them your education either. Let your experience talk for itself.

-- And, again. I really am getting why you didn't go chronological on your resume. You've got gaps. So why are you showing the gaps with previous work now? DOS! DOS tells how long you've been doing this. Your employment history tells your titles. Up to you if you want to keep that. (I wouldn't, unless the titles mean something to them. And, again, don't count on me, because I don't know what they mean. lol) BUT, if you do keep them, skip the months. Just go with the years. Because look what happens if you just go with the years. 2014-2017. You've been working the last three years. At the interview, feel free to tell them you got laid off/let go last month. No particular reason to say that here. And look at the years without dates as a whole.
2014 - 2017
2013 - 2014
2011 - 2012
2010
Tada! It tells the truth. You've worked every year for the last seven years. Not the whole year, but you consistently worked in this field. The rest, if needed, can be explained in the interview too.

As for 2009 and back? Problem. 2009 was a bad year for you, so you didn't work in the field. I don't see a need to go back past 2010. You are from the days of DOS, which is what they want to know. "How long have you been working in IT?"

Once people get to a certain age, (and you're there even though I really still think you're a kid. Somebody has to! Dad still thinks I'm a kid. lol), you don't have to go back to the beginning. Go back enough years to prove your worth.

As for the hardware and software part? Can't help you. I barely recognize those words as English, so I have no ability to tell you if it's done right other than the front-dash comment above.

You're getting there though. Before I thought you could use a resume writer. Now I think it's possible you can do this without one. I suspect after your next try, I'll be up to strictly nitpicking.
 
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Excuse typos. Really should be working now, but took this on instead.
 
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Thank you, Lynn - and everyone else - for your ideas and suggestions.

I am not spending a whole lot of time making replies to explain the reasons for wording some of the resume the way I am because I need to spend more time on actually getting the resume in shape to use.

However, there are a number of things mentioned that I would like to address. ( We shall see... )
 
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These are some examples to demonstrate what I meant by a clean format:





 
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Oh - I meant to say...

Okay - round three...
 
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This image didn't post in my last response, my bad...just another formatting example:

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Gary, is there a reason why you have so many fonts? It's easier on the eye to follow a consistent pattern. Varying the font size makes more sense for example if your section titles are larger, or all the dates are bold, or something to that effect. It doesn't seem to follow a logical pattern on your page yet.
 
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Gary, is there a reason why you have so many fonts? It's easier on the eye to follow a consistent pattern. Varying the font size makes more sense for example if your section titles are larger, or all the dates are bold, or something to that effect. It doesn't seem to follow a logical pattern on your page yet.
So many fonts? :confused:

There are only two fonts being used - modified only by <b> ( "bold" ) tags in the section titles and the tildes and dashes being used to 'bullet' information in list form. ( There is a reason I am using these in a table structure instead of the classic built-in HTML bullet-based tags in a paragraph structure. ) The monospace font used in the two "compact" lists is meant to draw special focus onto them - each intended to indicate a "broad spectrum" of my experience and abilities.

Everything on the page is size 16 except the two "compact" lists mentioned above - which is size 14.

I really appreciate your responses - honest, I really do. But, there is something I feel you need to understand. I have an education, but no degree. For various "real-life" reasons - which most people who are looking at your resume don't really care about or understand - I have some serious 'gaps' in my employment history.

I am not going to lie - period.

So then -- I need to "accentuate the positive" as much as possible - which causes me to have to take a different approach that is not so 'classic'.
 
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No one has suggested lying. You can have a great resume with or without a degree, there's absolutely no shame in that. I don't mean to make you feel defensive, truly.

Employment gaps happen. That's why I suggested combining your skills and work history into a section titled "experience". You can draw focus and attention to the skills and achievements over the course of your career, and include your employment, temp work, any volunteer work or organizations you're a part of with relevant professional skills. Education doesnt have to mean a degree either...some people list the relevant courses they've taken, retreats, workshops, certifications.


I still find the "info available upon request " completely unnecessary, but it's your page.

What I meant by varying fonts is how you have, for example, in your skills section each bullet point alternates sizes. If there's some kind of logic behind that, it might not be easily discernible to someone who is briefly looking over the page.

I'll try to reorder and edit the info you've provided once I get home later today, how I personally would look at mine..just to provide some ideas, you can take or leave whatever you d like
 
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No one has suggested lying. You can have a great resume with or without a degree, there's absolutely no shame in that. I don't mean to make you feel defensive, truly.
I know that. I made that statement to illustrate and solidify my stance that - no matter what - I have to be completely honest.

Tell that to the [ seemingly ] 99% of the world system who don't even want to consider you unless you have a "four-year university college degree"... ( :p )

You didn't. I am not feeling defensive at all. Honest. I appreciate everyone's contributions to helping me "fine tune" this thing into something that I hope the right people will pay attention to. I just want all of you to understand the very unique position that I find myself in. This is not something new. I have been through this over-and-over-and-over-and... :( And, it has literally been the cause of most of the 'gaps' in my employment history. I will try to explain this in more detail in a later post.


Employment gaps happen. That's why I suggested combining your skills and work history into a section titled "experience". You can draw focus and attention to the skills and achievements over the course of your career, and include your employment, temp work, any volunteer work or organizations you're a part of with relevant professional skills. Education doesnt have to mean a degree either...some people list the relevant courses they've taken, retreats, workshops, certifications.
A lot of my skills have been learned - and utilized - in situations that are not commonly considered "experience" in the sense of getting paid to do it as a regular job. I also consider it a [ virtual ] requirement that I use section titles like 'SKILLS', 'ACHIEVEMENTS', and 'STRENGTHS' to emphasize what the information under some of the other section titles cannot - and are, in fact ( I feel / think ) - against me...


I still find the "info available upon request " completely unnecessary, but it's your page.
Thank you. I will consider it further.


What I meant by varying fonts is how you have, for example, in your skills section each bullet point alternates sizes. If there's some kind of logic behind that, it might not be easily discernible to someone who is briefly looking over the page.
They are all the same to me. In the HTML page code, they are all size 14. Is this something that could possibly result from how your browser is rendering the page? Is it strictly a 'visual' effect to your eyes when you look at your screen? I am not trying to "put this on you", but - honestly, darlin' - I don't know what-in-the-world you are talking about. :confused:

Does anyone else experience what she is talking about?


I'll try to reorder and edit the info you've provided once I get home later today, how I personally would look at mine..just to provide some ideas, you can take or leave whatever you d like
Remember -- what will help the most is knowing the impressions people have upon reading it - like, in the first 30 seconds to one minute. Further analysis may certainly prove to be helpful also; however, it is the first impressions that I am most interested in -- i.e. - how does the resume 'read' - 'strike' the viewer - etc.
 
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I'll try to reorder and edit the info you've provided once I get home later today, how I personally would look at mine..just to provide some ideas, you can take or leave whatever you d like
Whatever you do ( or anyone else does ) --- do not copy / transfer / post any data / links / information from my website pages directly into any thread on CC; it is for your benefit as well as mine.

I have very good reasons for attaching / linking / referencing [ certain things ] through links in my signature. ;)
 
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Okay, sat down in front of a computer.

first - you were right, the font varied on my mobile device.i was accessing your page using the default browser on my phone previously. On my phone, each bullet alternates between a large and small font (which was driving me crazy). since i'm now at my computer, i see that the font size isn't all weird on firefox.
i dont have any other browsers, so im not sure if it's just me, or if other people see it weird on any other browsers, but hopefully that was just me and my phone. my bad!


second - i won't repost information directly off your resume onto here, ill respect your request

so I now what you're trying to do in terms of a functional resume (as opposed to a chronological history)
keep in mind, im not tech savvy, so while i dont understand what you're talking about in terms of specific computer/tech components, a few things jumped out at me: aren't your strengths and skills section the same thing? you detail your knowledge on hardware/software under skills, and then list it as the first bullet point on the strength section. You also have 2 separate sections specifically for hardware and software.

This is just an idea, but what about reordering your skills so that it's like this (going to vaguely paraphrase from your page), and then illustrating it with the specific examples you provided

Skills

Problem solving
- developed a program that "xyz"
- eliminated severe crash issues

Critical thinking
"performed test code analysis"
- example here

Service and Support
- troubleshooting xyz
- repairing xyz

Knowledgeable
- this is where you list all that stuff about hardware, software components, programming languages



So essentially using your achievement section to illustrate your skills.
Just a suggestion!


Under your education section - i would take out the part the 111 credit hours, since it immediately makes the reader wonder whether or not your program was completed.
I would instead leave your GPA since your grades were good, and then do a short list on a few the most relevant classes you took (examples "programming" "data mining" "network design" "idontreallyknowtheclassescomputerpeopletake")

Education
Name of school
What you studied
GPA
Relevant coursework: insert examples here
 
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So essentially using your achievement section to illustrate your skills.
Just a suggestion!
A very good suggestion! :cool: I will consider it. :) Thank you. :D
 

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I just pulled up my last résumé, which is less than 100 words.
Every company I gave it to offered me a position.
When somebody sees how long I've been doing what I do, that should
clue them in that I know my craft well, but a piece of paper is worthless.
The interview is where I pitch myself.

Here it is in generic form:

My Name
123 My Street
My Town, USA 12345
(555) 555-5555

Work History Summary
-Worked in This Industry from XXXX through XXXX.
-Self-employed in This Industry from XXXX through XXXX.
-Worked for This Company in This Town at This Position from XXXX through XXXX.
-Worked for This Company in This Town at This Position from XXXX through XXXX.

Professional References
-Former Boss, His Title,
(555) 555-5555 or (555) 555-5555

-Former Boss, His Title,
(555) 555-5555 or (555) 555-5555

-Former Client, His Title,
(555) 555-5555

-Former Client, His Title,
(555) 555-5555
 
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C3PO

:p

Did I mention that I was very detail-oriented?

;)

( Just teasin'... )
 
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-- I don't quite get that part. I mean I get you want to boast on your DOS abilities from back-in-the-day, but it sticks out like wearing a plaid suit.
It is not actually about DOS. The significance of it rests in the comparison between the age-old DOS-and-Windows wild-card parsing ability ( which was - and still is, AFAIK - very weak ) and that of UNIX. You see -- UNIX has been around since the 1940s ( IIRC ). Since its very beginning, UNIX was capable of a "fully-functional" wild-card parsing ability that has never been matched ( not even close, even to this day! ) by Windows.

In UNIX, if I use the pattern 'Abc*dEf??ghI*xyz?' to match filenames, for example -- the results will match that pattern exactly to-the-character - and, case sensitive - for every character.

In Windows, that same pattern will match 'ABC*' - and, case insensitive - for every character. The rest of the pattern is lost because the Windows wild-card handling routine is too weak. The first '*' encountered matches the rest of the string. ( BTW - this is a reflection of the entire operating system, as compared to UNIX / LINUX. )

The '*' means zero-or-more-matching-characters. The '?' means exactly-one-matching-character.

You have to know what you are doing to write bug-free code to properly match virtually any pattern that might be given to the routine.

I am such a person. And, I did this back in the 1980s. With no degree! :eek: How 'bout that! :rolleyes:

( To about 99% of the capability of UNIX. There was a single very-rare-case-instance that I did not get "ironed-out" quite like I wanted to - but, that was it. Everything else I could come up to test it with worked wonderfully! And, I know how to very thoroughly test code. And, I know how to write very thorough code that will handle every-imaginable-condition that it might be exposed to -- because, "that is the way I roll" -- i.e. - that is my 'normal' way of writing code. )

"Oh my goodness - how is that possible?!?"

Because --- degrees do not give people ability -- God does...

To someone who understands the history -- it is saying with confidence:

"I know how to write code."

Also - by making that statement, I am saying - in part - that I am actually capable of writing code that Microsoft programmers are [ apparently ] not even capable of! :p

( "UNIX / LINUX just beats the crap out of Windows - hands down..." - but, I digress... )