Should the rich support the poor?

I get some hints when I am in line behind someone at the grocery store, and they pay with a Welfare Card.... then they wheel their two carts with beer and steaks out to their new Cadillac......... while I pay for my hamburger and beans with money I worked for..... and then go load it into our 1999 Mercury.

My wife observed exactly that happening just 2 or 3 days ago, when she was in the store. Two different patrons of the store, one with (she told me the brand name, I forgot it) a very expensive purse..$300 range, a cart loaded down with junk food, grocery bill of over $200... paid with the Lone Star card, or whatever they call it. She noticed the lady loading all that up in a really nice suv... don't remember the brand or model.

The issue that we see all the time is women with 5 or 6 kids, saying she's single, getting all the benefits, kids getting free school meals, and free school supplies, while her common law husband, who she's been living with for 25 years works a full time job doing some type of construction, frequently being paid in cash, under the table.

That has become the norm in some of the ethnic communities.... but conservatives are evil because we don't want to keep getting bled dry to support these leeches. I suppose we're just heartless.

I wish you didn't feel that way Willie-T,I mean,painting us all with a broad brush...sigh..

You should not let those few cause you any negative thoughts,BTW do you help those that appear to be struggling?

i thought the rich already support the poor to some extent, and willingly.

start a business, hire some people, voilà?

that said, i think a flat tax, with exceptions at the bottom of the ladder, and including corporations, makes sense.
but then, i'm no economist!

I wish you didn't feel that way Willie-T,I mean,painting us all with a broad brush...sigh..

You should not let those few cause you any negative thoughts,BTW do you help those that appear to be struggling?

You can't milk a system, if there is no system to milk!

You're kind of missing the point here. Who says a system is needed?

Actually, if you read the Law, God had a great system. Do you know what should happen to the disabled, widow or orphan? Family takes them in and they had to help out. They were called "slaves." An evil word today, but back then when John and I first became disabled either Dad or one of my siblings were supposed to take us in. And, where as we cannot do a 40 hours work week, we can help with the housework and meals. I'd rather be a slave to family then worthless and a money pit to the government.

Back in the days when Israel was observing the real law, we would have come up with ways to add income to the family. I'm good at crocheting and gardening. I'm also pretty good at baking. I could sell what I made, give 90% to the family pot and keep 10% for myself.

Seven years later, we had the choice of whether we could afford to go back on our own again, (with that 10% saved in those seven years), or to stay on.

As for milking the system? May I safely assume you have family? If so, are they stupid enough to let you milk them for seven whole years? We might be able to pull the wool over their eyes once or twice, but it is usually safe to assume family catches us first. lol

Seems to me, if Christians work this out to going back to the Bible the only thing that should shock them beyond measure is to realize they owe family enough to bring them in and take care of them when the chips are down. And, in reverse the ones being brought in and cared for owe taking care of the family that gave them a home.

I know my family. Two out of six could afford to take us in. Unfortunately, I know my family. None of them are Christians, so we living with them would be just as tough as them living with us. On the other hand, it beats living off of the US government! (And, dagnabit! We paid into that program for 50 years, so we're not simply taking without first giving. The government that now takes care of us has managed to take most of the money we did have, because of their rules.)

You can't milk a system, if there is no system to milk!

You're kind of missing the point here. Who says a system is needed?

Actually, if you read the Law, God had a great system. Do you know what should happen to the disabled, widow or orphan? Family takes them in and they had to help out. They were called "slaves." An evil word today, but back then when John and I first became disabled either Dad or one of my siblings were supposed to take us in. And, where as we cannot do a 40 hours work week, we can help with the housework and meals. I'd rather be a slave to family then worthless and a money pit to the government.

Back in the days when Israel was observing the real law, we would have come up with ways to add income to the family. I'm good at crocheting and gardening. I'm also pretty good at baking. I could sell what I made, give 90% to the family pot and keep 10% for myself.

Seven years later, we had the choice of whether we could afford to go back on our own again, (with that 10% saved in those seven years), or to stay on.

As for milking the system? May I safely assume you have family? If so, are they stupid enough to let you milk them for seven whole years? We might be able to pull the wool over their eyes once or twice, but it is usually safe to assume family catches us first. lol

Seems to me, if Christians work this out to going back to the Bible the only thing that should shock them beyond measure is to realize they owe family enough to bring them in and take care of them when the chips are down. And, in reverse the ones being brought in and cared for owe taking care of the family that gave them a home.

I know my family. Two out of six could afford to take us in. Unfortunately, I know my family. None of them are Christians, so we living with them would be just as tough as them living with us. On the other hand, it beats living off of the US government! (And, dagnabit! We paid into that program for 50 years, so we're not simply taking without first giving. The government that now takes care of us has managed to take most of the money we did have, because of their rules.)

I wish you didn't feel that way Willie-T,I mean,painting us all with a broad brush...sigh..

You should not let those few cause you any negative thoughts,BTW do you help those that appear to be struggling?

Few? There's not a few around here who abuse the system. Its an epidemic around here. Few? Pfffft!! Yah! Riiiiiiight!!!

Also, they get back $8,000-$10,000 in taxes for having all those kids, Brother HornetGuy.

I ain't going to be no one's slave. I'll leech off the gov't and bleed it dry, bone dry.

That's 1/2 my family's attitude.

just curious,If you were like them,would you be lazy and do the same thing they are doing?

Be honest.

We live In a capitalist system,some women are raising their children alone and that money helps and soothes their emotions and that's good,dont you think so?

not everyone Is unqualified.

We live In a capitalist system,some women are raising their children alone and that money helps and soothes their emotions and that's good,dont you think so?

not everyone Is unqualified.

Have you ever really seen that?

Other than the fact that I can't be sure it was this year's Cadillac, OH YEAH...... several times.

No. I was raised to believe that anything worth having is worth working for. Sadly, many of my relatives were raised to leech off our gov't. They've done this for generations.

Soothes their emotions??? Like having premarital unprotected sex soothed their emotions?

I get some hints when I am in line behind someone at the grocery store, and they pay with a Welfare Card.... then they wheel their two carts with beer and steaks out to their new Cadillac......... while I pay for my hamburger and beans with money I worked for..... and then go load it into our 1999 Mercury.

Have you ever really seen that?

How long ago? That was common pre Welfare-to-Work, but very uncommon now.