Should the rich support the poor?

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Magenta

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Yes your are completely correct,

on a sidenote just the other day I've heard of a program a woman setup in some other countries called nightcare similar to daycare.
The sad thing here is that quite a few years ago, many who were institutionalized were put out of care and made to fend for themselves in a world where they are ill equipped to do so. The tragedy is that some fall through the cracks of the system put in place to assist them, and sometimes they simply cannot cope due to whatever incapacitates them in the way of mental illness. Still there are places for them to spend their days as long as they behave according to the rules of the house, and housing provided through assisted living and hostels. In hostels, they are made to share a space with others in the same boat, and they have to relinquish their personal belongings to do so, which is often just a shopping cart full of things they traipse around with. I used to see one homeless person around all the time who looked to be in really good shape physically, and always very clean, as if he owned a gym membership and showered daily, but that would be the exception to the norm. In order to collect welfare, they need to have an address. Otherwise they do not even have welfare to help them with living expenses.
 

JosephsDreams

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The thing is in the long term many of us who do want to work are going to be receiving government money regardless, whether we want it or not.

The reason being is because of automation and technology and and world markets and population. Business is getting so efficient and will continue in that vein due to computers and robots that we are not going to be needed for a lot of jobs.

This is the bleak future of the job market, like it or not. It's coming, and sooner then most realize. To suppress riots and revolution, violence and unrest, eventually the government is going to have no choice but to institute programs that will provide people with necessities such as food and housing and transportation.

Of course the tens of millions of people who are going to receive this type of assistance are not in the same category as the scammers, not the same mindset. Yet they are going to be getting the same type of help.

Anyone under 30,35 is almost definitely going to live to see this.
Europe, America, Australia, who knows how many more countries will be forced into this? Call it socialism or whatever tag you want to label it, it's a fait accompli.

Who knows, this coming economy may even be still another piece of the puzzle contributing to the anti Christ coming onto the world stage.

I say thank God we on this site have Christ. With what is coming in the economy and with the Muslim situation and everything else prophesied our kids, grandkids are in for a very tough time. Teach them the ways of the Lord, they are gonna need it.
 
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And that conclusion is...........?

(Be careful of your answer, because I just may well tell you exactly who it was that taught me to see it.)
please don't say that the person that taught you was black,:)I already remember what you said about that but I don't agree with what she taught you.:eek:
 
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Seed,
This brings out immediate prejudice in me. Does it in you? (Guess who I see as a low-life, and who I see as a working man doing a good job?)

seems like something that would be normal,but I think you would say that the policeman Is right.:)
 
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please don't say that the person that taught you was black,:)I already remember what you said about that but I don't agree with what she taught you.:eek:
Hattie was the one who first taught me there was a difference between "House" and "Field."
 

Socreta93

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[FONT=&quot]Matthew 19:21-24[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven; then come and follow me.”[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he was very rich.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]23 Jesus then said to his disciples, “I assure you: it will be very hard for rich people to enter the Kingdom of heaven. 24 I repeat: it is much harder for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.”[/FONT]
 

seoulsearch

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Matthew 19:21-24
“If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor, and you will have riches in heaven; then come and follow me.”

22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he was very rich.

23 Jesus then said to his disciples, “I assure you: it will be very hard for rich people to enter the Kingdom of heaven. 24 I repeat: it is much harder for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God than for a camel to go through the eye of a needle.”
I remember hearing a sermon once in which it was estimated that Abraham might have very possibly been a billionaire by today's standards.

In addition, Isaac, David, Solomon, and Jacob... were quite obviously not poor.

I've often wondered how much of their riches God required, or asked them, to give away to the poor, and how much they were allowed to keep for themselves.

(And, I'm assuming they made it to heaven.)
 
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we believe that their hearts were given-over to those who were poor/humble in life,
but rich in Spirit...
 

Huckleberry

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If You're Poor It's Probably Because You Make Bad Decisions

In the United States, being rich or poor is all about choices.
We all have the same opportunity to become wealthy.
Some people are disciplined, while others are idiots.

A disciplined person will live below their means, budget
their money meticulously, stay out of debt, and save money.
That road leads to wealth.

An idiot will cash their paycheck at a casino, finance a tattoo, buy
luxuries they can't afford, then show up at the local welfare office to
claim every benefit they can qualify for and become a societal parasite.
That road leads to the trailer court.

People choose their financial road just as they
choose which road they'll take into eternity.
 
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I remember hearing a sermon once in which it was estimated that Abraham might have very possibly been a billionaire by today's standards.

In addition, Isaac, David, Solomon, and Jacob... were quite obviously not poor.

I've often wondered how much of their riches God required, or asked them, to give away to the poor, and how much they were allowed to keep for themselves.

(And, I'm assuming they made it to heaven.)
It wasn't ever about money. Each time someone asked Jesus, "What do I do?", Jesus already knew what was most important to them. To the Pharisees who thought following the Law was key, he handed them an example of following the law they would not keep -- loving a Samaritan. (To a Pharisees loving a Pharisee was like loving dung to a germophobe.) To Nicodemus it was status. He was part of the Sanhedrin. To the man it was his money.

Only Nicodemus answered right. He said, "I can't!"

Bingo! Right answer. Only answer! And therefore there is Jesus. Had the Pharisees and rich man told the truth, ("I can't"), then Jesus would have accepted them and changed that about them.

He is ours once we recognize what we cannot do. Until we get to the end of our string and realize we can't hold on, only then does Jesus give us our Can! He is our can! Had the rich man gone that far, who knows if he would have stayed rich? He may have. He may not have. Either way, he would have been satisfied in Jesus -- his Can. Because then how much money you have doesn't matter quite as much.
 
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we believe that their hearts were given-over to those who were poor/humble in life,
but rich in Spirit...

1 Corinthians 1:25-28
King James Version(KJV)

25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, [are called]:

27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, [yea], and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
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John 4:23-24
King James Version(KJV)

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.