Sexual chemistry: When it's missing from your marriage

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KJMcWu

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My husband Will and I got married a year ago. We were both older to be getting married for the first time, and we had waited a long time to find our person. He waited more patiently than me, as he was a virgin when we got married. I had been sexually abused as a child, which led to my own sexual sin as a young teen and later in life. I dated a fair amount, and had a coupe long term relationships. My husband, on the other hand did not date at all (other than a high school gf) until he met me at age 40.

Before I started dating my husband, I briefly dated an atheist named Aaron. Aaron was smart, driven, successful, kind, and flirtatious. We had an instant, intense connection. From the first time we met, there was this incredibly strong chemistry. Not just in a sexual sense, but we just got each other in other ways. We were VERY different I our beliefs/philosophy/world views, but we got a long really well. We went on a few dates. I knew I shouldn't be dating him, but I was going through a period of rebellion. I was angry at God because I was in my mid-thirties, and despite decades of following the Lord and praying for a Godly husband, he was seemingly holding out on me. Marriage had been a deep desire of my heart since I was a little girl, and I couldn't understand how the God that loved me could have created me with those desires and then refused to fill them. I remember feeling like he had not kept his promises to me: I didn't feel like he was meeting my needs, and I felt at he time like I had asked for a loaf of bread and he gave me a snake.

It was during this season that I started dating Aaron, and in my rebellion I slept with him. Now, as with everything between Aaron and I, there was electrifying chemistry. The first time we kissed I swear there were fireworks going off. But as God continued to convict me and move in my heart, I came to know that I had to end it and move on.

Even though I still felt angry at God and didn't understand why he wouldn't give me a husband, I poured out my heart to Him. Through my tears I told him that I surrendered my right to understand why. I told Him that I chose Him. I chose Him over my own desires, even if it meant I would be single for the rest of my life. And I fully expected that I would.

Just a couple weeks later, I had my first date with my now husband, who wasn't even on my radar at the time.

My husband is kind and gentle. He is patient and wise. He is highly intelligent and respectful. He treats me like a queen, and he is the biggest blessing of my life. I praise God for him daily.

But as blessed as I know I am, I still sometimes struggle. My sexual background and Will's are very different. Not only that, but our sex drives ad every different as well. He is content to have sex once every couple of weeks. I would like it more often than that. Even on our honeymoon, when we had waited for so long, he didn't want to have sex very frequently. And he had some ED issues as well that have unfortunately been occasionally problematic and prevented sex in a fairly regular basis. Not only all of this, but my husband is a terrible kisser, and rather cumbersome with the rest of it. He is not comfortable with anything other than the most vanilla and common? ordinary? ....trying to find the right word...Anyway he is not open to much outside of what we do every time.

I am struggling because I know I shouldn't, but I miss the days of electrifying chemistry. I know I shouldn't even know what sex with another is like, but I do. I miss being with someone who is enjoying me as much or more as I am them. I even miss being with someone who is naturally and experientially skilled. I have tried to teach my husband, but honestly it is very difficult to do, and there is very little if any improvement even then. I know that I should be thrilled and satisfied in the physical expression of love that we have for each other, but....if I'm really honest... simply expressing our love doesn't necessary equal sexually satisfaction.

We are now expecting our first child, and since we found out we were pregnant about a month ago, I think we've had sex twice. I know that things are going to be even more difficult once we have kids, but right now it is just the two of us and we still rarely have mediocre (at best) sex. We've never had the kind of chemistry that I've had in the past. Even in the beginning of our courtship, I never felt that electricity with him. But I just believed that if we both loved Jesus and grew to love each other, then the rest would fall into place. I wish I could say that has been the case.

Am I as horrible as I feel for missing the days when I was sinning? Is there anything I can do to kindle that kind of chemistry with my husband? Does anyone else every wonder why God would give such intense chemistry to me with an atheist, and give me a Godly husband who doesn't even appear to have any interest in chemistry with me

PS Yes, I have tried discussing this sort of thing with him. He knows that I feel frustrated with the frequency of our sex life, and he knows that I wish he would initiate. Yet nothing changes.
 
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Wild

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Yeah you're basically saying you like the desires of the flesh more than of the spirit. Quite clear what you are missing... It's okay tho we're only human
 
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KJMcWu

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Yeah you're basically saying you like the desires of the flesh more than of the spirit. Quite clear what you are missing... It's okay tho we're only human
I don't think it's as simple as that. God created sex and intends for it to be fully enjoyed within marriage. I am longing to fully experience sexuality with my husband within our marriage. That is not the desires of the flesh.
 
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I don't think it's as simple as that. God created sex and intends for it to be fully enjoyed within marriage. I am longing to fully experience sexuality with my husband within our marriage. That is not the desires of the flesh.
I get that point and that is all well and good as long as you're not still thinking about how good you had it with the other guy
 

just_a_peon

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may I suggest more prayers. :)
 
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You're in a covenant relationship. The thrill of forbidden is gone. That's one reason sex before marriage is a no no. You'll compare and are highly likely to be unsatisfied if all you experienced was ultimate in your eyes
It's love not lust in marriage.
It's unfortunate we do things in life without being educated on them.
Being that you are your husband's first, you can't expect him to have the same desires. He never gave into those and has created no fleshy appetite. You really still crave attention from those that didn't love you. Lust will ravish, love will caress
 
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Hopefully he'll recognize your need and explore options to fulfill his role as your provider
 
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Also God didn't give you great chemistry with someone that doesn't believe in him. We are people who meet people. He doesn't provide pleasure in sin. That's an erroneous belief that you've got to stop or you'll stay stuck thinking God is doing this
 

PennEd

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I'm terribly sorry for your situation. Here is a brilliant, and very entertaining Pastor, that deals with all sorts of marriage issues with especially Christian partners. The roles may be reversed, but I think he may be able to help your situation.

Be Blessed![video=youtube;a9BJ7I33dqs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9BJ7I33dqs[/video]
 

Corbinscam

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Two things. First, in that entire wall of text you never mention telling your husband how you feel. Have you? I'd suggest a long long heart to heart talk or a letter that spells out for him that you need more. He most likely thinks stuff is great and if he had a clue it wasn't he'd try to fix it. And secondly, you're pregnant. Please don't make major life decisions or give up on anything or anyone while pregnant. I'm in no way mocking anyone but pregnancy hormones don't exactly make a woman more sane and rational than normal.
 
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We are all Broken people, Jesus is in the act of putting us back together. I really feel for you and what your struggling with. I had a similar yet reversed experience. I am now at an age where the drive is far weaker and I thank God for it, it has caused so much heart ache for me and others all my life. We all have an issue that we struggle with, on some its more obvious then others but i dont think any of us get a free pass. We cannot judge others who struggle or we judge ourselves. I have prayed for you and trust Jesus will show you completeness in him. God bless you and your husband !
 

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Perhaps, you would be more satisfied if there was a lot of snuggling and cuddling during the infrequent sexual intervals. Also, you should praise him and make him feel more desirable before and after the times that you do come together.

Things tend to slow done when the guys get older and there are times when there will be issues with frequency and performance. There are things that can alleviate this and building up his confidence is part of the equation. Otherwise, I believe you are fortunate to have a decent loving and faithful husband.

There must have been a reason why you chose to marry him knowing full well that the sparks were not really flying. There was a reason why he married you also. I would build upon this and take it from there. It is also important that you both place God in the center of your marriage. I also highly recommend daily prayer, devotion and bible study together. It does appear that you both communicate with each other as husband and wife and that is a huge thing in itself.
 

tourist

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I don't think it's as simple as that. God created sex and intends for it to be fully enjoyed within marriage. I am longing to fully experience sexuality with my husband within our marriage. That is not the desires of the flesh.
You are correct on this. In a marriage it is absolutely essential that the husband and wife desire each other and please each other. This is certainly not lust but is a natural marital process.
 

tourist

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Two things. First, in that entire wall of text you never mention telling your husband how you feel. Have you? I'd suggest a long long heart to heart talk or a letter that spells out for him that you need more. He most likely thinks stuff is great and if he had a clue it wasn't he'd try to fix it. And secondly, you're pregnant. Please don't make major life decisions or give up on anything or anyone while pregnant. I'm in no way mocking anyone but pregnancy hormones don't exactly make a woman more sane and rational than normal.
Actually, she did discussed this with her husband and stated so in the last paragraph. Major life decisions in a marriage can happen regardless if the wife is pregnant or not.

The OP was not about some momentous decision she is facing but rather just stating how sexually frustrated she is with her husband. The OP was a bit long but it was very well written and broken up into the proper paragraphs. It was certainly no wall of text.

Unless you have medical training or are a woman you probably have no idea about proper hormone balance when pregnant or the effects of pregnancy on a woman's rational thought process.
 
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My husband Will and I got married a year ago. We were both older to be getting married for the first time, and we had waited a long time to find our person. He waited more patiently than me, as he was a virgin when we got married. I had been sexually abused as a child, which led to my own sexual sin as a young teen and later in life. I dated a fair amount, and had a coupe long term relationships. My husband, on the other hand did not date at all (other than a high school gf) until he met me at age 40.

Before I started dating my husband, I briefly dated an atheist named Aaron. Aaron was smart, driven, successful, kind, and flirtatious. We had an instant, intense connection. From the first time we met, there was this incredibly strong chemistry. Not just in a sexual sense, but we just got each other in other ways. We were VERY different I our beliefs/philosophy/world views, but we got a long really well. We went on a few dates. I knew I shouldn't be dating him, but I was going through a period of rebellion. I was angry at God because I was in my mid-thirties, and despite decades of following the Lord and praying for a Godly husband, he was seemingly holding out on me. Marriage had been a deep desire of my heart since I was a little girl, and I couldn't understand how the God that loved me could have created me with those desires and then refused to fill them. I remember feeling like he had not kept his promises to me: I didn't feel like he was meeting my needs, and I felt at he time like I had asked for a loaf of bread and he gave me a snake.

It was during this season that I started dating Aaron, and in my rebellion I slept with him. Now, as with everything between Aaron and I, there was electrifying chemistry. The first time we kissed I swear there were fireworks going off. But as God continued to convict me and move in my heart, I came to know that I had to end it and move on.

Even though I still felt angry at God and didn't understand why he wouldn't give me a husband, I poured out my heart to Him. Through my tears I told him that I surrendered my right to understand why. I told Him that I chose Him. I chose Him over my own desires, even if it meant I would be single for the rest of my life. And I fully expected that I would.

Just a couple weeks later, I had my first date with my now husband, who wasn't even on my radar at the time.

My husband is kind and gentle. He is patient and wise. He is highly intelligent and respectful. He treats me like a queen, and he is the biggest blessing of my life. I praise God for him daily.

But as blessed as I know I am, I still sometimes struggle. My sexual background and Will's are very different. Not only that, but our sex drives ad every different as well. He is content to have sex once every couple of weeks. I would like it more often than that. Even on our honeymoon, when we had waited for so long, he didn't want to have sex very frequently. And he had some ED issues as well that have unfortunately been occasionally problematic and prevented sex in a fairly regular basis. Not only all of this, but my husband is a terrible kisser, and rather cumbersome with the rest of it. He is not comfortable with anything other than the most vanilla and common? ordinary? ....trying to find the right word...Anyway he is not open to much outside of what we do every time.

I am struggling because I know I shouldn't, but I miss the days of electrifying chemistry. I know I shouldn't even know what sex with another is like, but I do. I miss being with someone who is enjoying me as much or more as I am them. I even miss being with someone who is naturally and experientially skilled. I have tried to teach my husband, but honestly it is very difficult to do, and there is very little if any improvement even then. I know that I should be thrilled and satisfied in the physical expression of love that we have for each other, but....if I'm really honest... simply expressing our love doesn't necessary equal sexually satisfaction.

We are now expecting our first child, and since we found out we were pregnant about a month ago, I think we've had sex twice. I know that things are going to be even more difficult once we have kids, but right now it is just the two of us and we still rarely have mediocre (at best) sex. We've never had the kind of chemistry that I've had in the past. Even in the beginning of our courtship, I never felt that electricity with him. But I just believed that if we both loved Jesus and grew to love each other, then the rest would fall into place. I wish I could say that has been the case.

Am I as horrible as I feel for missing the days when I was sinning? Is there anything I can do to kindle that kind of chemistry with my husband? Does anyone else every wonder why God would give such intense chemistry to me with an atheist, and give me a Godly husband who doesn't even appear to have any interest in chemistry with me

PS Yes, I have tried discussing this sort of thing with him. He knows that I feel frustrated with the frequency of our sex life, and he knows that I wish he would initiate. Yet nothing changes.
First, YIKES! It's a shame you didn't realize that you would get permission to join the ladies forum after being on this site for a week. It would go easier on you had you posted this on that forum, rather than now on here.

But, oh well. Too late for that one.

Second, my life is about as opposite as yours as is possible. I was not sexually abused as a kid, but I married someone who was. That turned me into closer to your husband -- no experience, and once or twice a month sounds fine... just let me know when to show up.

Some things that really helped through all that, in no particular order:
-- We had to talk -- a lot. But it wasn't about who was right and who was wrong, what the other person wanted or didn't want, it was always aimed at "What does it for you?" As in, if I don't know squat, I've got no clue what works for you. What do you want from me? What do you enjoy? What do you hate? What do you really enjoy? How do we clue into that?

Truthfully, he has another advantage over me. He grew up in a time when "getting some" rarely happened before marriage, so all the sexual tension came in the form of kissing. (Snogging was an art form!) Whereas, my generation was almost guaranteed to put out as the first kiss, so who cares if she's a good kisser? Because of that, the guys I dated weren't good kissers, (and never found out what they assumed they would find out about me), so I never learned how to kiss. His kiss, in contrast? Dang! Can feel that down to my toes! But I did want to show him how much I love him, so observed what he did with a kiss to return the favor.

-- Counseling. He needed some, and from a Christian counselor, (Not just a counselor that happened to be Christian, but a counselor who counseled as a Christian -- biblically!) Those sexual feelings that were aroused when you were so young weren't supposed to be aroused that young or that way, therefore, the way you experience the world is unlike how most people experience it. Not your fault. Honest-honest, I am not blaming you. It happens. It stinks, and then the person has to live with it. But something else happens too. Whatever that is that is different, (because people who have never had that experience can't see it), is like a tracking device on you for other victims. And being the victim sets people off on different paths. Sometimes that path is victimhood. Those are the mousy people, always afraid of their own shadow. Another one is savior -- someone out to save as many others as possible. And another path can be the culprit -- ready to cause the same havoc on others.

Have you noticed you meet a lot of other people who were violated? Most people don't have that experience. Well, they probably have friends and family members who have been abused, but they never notice. But victims keep meeting other victims and they talk. They actually develop a relationship or chemistry even before they talk. I swear if you put my husband into a room with 20 other people, the first person he'd notice would be someone who was previously abused. He's immediately attracted to that person, even if it's not a sexual attraction. He's the savior type. But in trying to save others, he had a tendency to find the culprit type.

I bring this up because it's quite likely connected to who you are attracted to. I wouldn't be surprised to find out Aaron was abused when he was young too. And do you know if Will was? (Don't tell. Just trying to show you how it might still affect you.) That's what the counseling is for. To find out where you stand, and how you see the world differently than most. What attracted hubby to me was I was unlike anyone he is usually attracted to. And, once he understood that, he knew that was a plus.

Bigger thing he learned was he is no victim! He was targeted. Big difference. (I only used "victim," because that's how people see themselves until they get the difference.)

-- 37 years of marriage talking here. What really helped me get over the "meh" of sex is spending a great deal of time finding out what he likes. Getting him turned on is my turn on. But that couldn't happen until we figured out what works for him. And that doesn't happen without a lot of talking AND a lot of experimenting. I suspect if he knew it's all about him, it gets better.

I also suspect if you learn about yourself it does too. Something terrible happened to you. Sure, you can stuff it down and move on, but it left something on you. It has become a part of who you are. It helps to get to know who that is too.

I doubt you'll ever get sex every night of the week. (In eight months you won't want it every night anyway. Maybe just down to four nights. lol) But there is a balance. Truthfully, the goal isn't even sex. It's love-making. You've been married a year. It takes longer than that to get a balance. You've got decades. Might as well take the time to work it back and forth until you both get what you need. And one thing you'll always need is for both of you to have a willingness to talk about the important stuff.
 
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Yeah you're basically saying you like the desires of the flesh more than of the spirit. Quite clear what you are missing... It's okay tho we're only human
Dang! That was as pretentious and nasty as you could get.
 
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You're in a covenant relationship. The thrill of forbidden is gone. That's one reason sex before marriage is a no no. You'll compare and are highly likely to be unsatisfied if all you experienced was ultimate in your eyes
It's love not lust in marriage.
It's unfortunate we do things in life without being educated on them.
Being that you are your husband's first, you can't expect him to have the same desires. He never gave into those and has created no fleshy appetite. You really still crave attention from those that didn't love you. Lust will ravish, love will caress
Oh brother!

It was/is lust for spouse. Lust isn't a bad thing in marriage. Holding off on the desire usually brings a powder-keg effect in the honeymoon.

Boy! With the amount of "advice" being given, I'm beginning to wonder how Christians ever have kids.
 
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Two things. First, in that entire wall of text you never mention telling your husband how you feel. Have you? I'd suggest a long long heart to heart talk or a letter that spells out for him that you need more. He most likely thinks stuff is great and if he had a clue it wasn't he'd try to fix it. And secondly, you're pregnant. Please don't make major life decisions or give up on anything or anyone while pregnant. I'm in no way mocking anyone but pregnancy hormones don't exactly make a woman more sane and rational than normal.
Three things:
1. That wasn't a wall of text.
2. Since you didn't bother reading the perfectly-fashioned paragraphs, you have no idea she has talked to husband about it and has never said she is making any "major life decisions."
3. And since you didn't bother reading what she wrote, why do you think you are now emboldened to give her any advice?

If this is the difference between pregnancy hormones and not-pregnancy hormones, are you pregnant? (Because read her not-wall-of-text, and you might discover how insane this reply seemed.)
 

Huckleberry

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Why he would save himself until age 40 and not marry a virgin?
Doesn't compute.
 
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KJMcWu

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Yes, I have talked with my husband about my feelings. If you notice I said that in the PS section. I have poured out my heart to him multiple times. He understands how I feel and he cares about it. But in spite of numerous heart to hearts nothing really changes. I don't my husband knows what to do about it.