Can we take back some of our culture?

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When I was a kid, the default in America was quasi-Christian. It really wasn't any more or any less Christian than it is today, but the Ten Commandments (ignoring the first 3-4, of course) was the foundation everyone assumed, and God was in there somewhere too. (He wasn't sovereign, by any means, but it was a big deal when John Lennon said the Beatles were bigger than God. Even for us little Catholic kids, it was time to decide if our records got chucked. John had to back pedal in a hurry.)

Family meant Dad was CEO, Mom was President, and kids had to obey. But there was the nuclear family, and it mattered greatly if divorce changed that. And "bastard" was great shame, although, sadly, it was already the shame of the child, not the shame of the parents.

TV time was big. Watching TV together as a family, lead us all to discussing the same thing. Should Ed Sullivan have the gyrating "hunka-hunka-burning love" maniac on TV? (And, hey, my parents were fine with Elvis, and Elvis was old-school to us kids, so it wasn't a big deal, but we talked about it.) And we talked more when the Beatles were coming on. And laughed at Mom for getting all excited about that old guy -- Frank Sinatra. And, poor Ben Cartwright. How did he manage raising those three sons when his wife died? Families need moms. And, "BAMMMM!!!" "POWWWW!!!!" made Dad laugh every time on Batman. It was funny to see Dad laugh that hard, because it was hard to get Dad to laugh. But Dad and me had Star Trek in common, and Mom and oldest brother has football and baseball in common, until Brother went off and started rooting for them Cowboys, who had the gall to call themselves "America's team." How unAmerican! It's just not how we do things in America. God comes first, and pride comes before the fall.

So, yeah, TV time was big, and it still is.

BUT, through the years, TV/movies/Hollywood has been far removed from Christianity. Not just in America. I can watch some British shows now, and started watching something people have been telling me for decades I'd really like -- Dr Who. We did start watching it last summer. We gave up on it when the repeat message was rampant sex was assumed, and not even with the opposite gender. With anyone willing. So, no, it's not just America.

Hubby and I don't get out much. So TV is the thing we do to have common stories to discuss. And we can talk during commercials, or put it on pause, if we're streaming to talk about it then. One thing we do together is give up on shows that are intentionally trying to indoctrinate us into modern-speak/anarchy. I get much of it is fiction, so I don't have to agree with the theories to like the show, but it has gone way beyond that.

Religious people are evil, unless they're Catholic. And then they're "spiritual." I gave up on Criminal Minds a while ago because "the intellectuals" all know believing homosexuals don't love each other is Hicksville-ignorant. Only the uneducated would believe God would frown on their love. I'm giving up on NCIS:NO for the same reason. 3% of the population is homosexual, but 30% of TV show characters are.

You'd think I'd me safe with one of my favorite shows -- FOX's Pregame Show before football on Sundays. FOX + football. How can that go wrong? I gave that up three weekends ago, because they were indoctrinating the viewers into believing taking a knee was the patriotic thing to do.

I loved watch Jack on 24 when 24 was on. So, Keiffer Southerland. A man who is patriotic. But, nope. Just gave up on Designated Survivor because compromise is the proper way to deal with historic statues in the South, and anyone who doesn't agree they should be shoved into a remote location for no one to see is an idiot. They proved they were right, because they had the "Southern Preacher" also be the black guy and he was for keeping the statue right where it was -- in front of the government building. So obviously it can't be a racial issue or a religious issue. THEY got the proper answer, and anyone who disagrees must cow-tow to the "greater good."

I just figured out who the bad guys are in the Marvel Universe -- conservatives! Who else would think to kill everyone who is different than them but conservatives when the inhumans/X-men showed up?

Five years ago there was just enough TV to watch to keep us satisfied six nights a week. And then Saturday night we could stream. (We don't have cable.) We're down to about three nights of TV, and we record when there are two shows on at the same time that we like.

How does this relate to CC? Well, there are thousands of us on this site, and most of us know other Christians, (probably more IRL than on here), that we can talk to. Why is it the Christian community sits back while letting Hollywood dictate morality? Hollywood is a business. If they find out much of their customer base isn't happy, it matters. (And 10% is enough, considering Target change their minds on nongender bathrooms when they lost just 10% of their customers.) We do have the clout to bring Hollywood at least back to some morality. I get we can't bring them to Christ, but at least let them know it matters to us. Why aren't we doing that?

And not just Hollywood. Why are we letting the anarchists dictate terms? They really are less than 10% of the country.
 

Dino246

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Well said, Lynn.

We can choose not to go to the gladiator games. We can even choose to protest the gladiator games. We can, and do, offer alternate entertainment, and some of it is quite good. What we can't do is dictate what other people choose to ingest. As long as there is a lucrative market for garbage, the purveyors will keep producing it. The actors aren't innocent.
 

Joidevivre

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That is why I'm more and more into reading books. Any culture you want easy to get. I'm also spending $$ on buying some old classic DVDs and almost ignore TV anymore. I'm into British humor "As Time Goes By" (Judy Dench), "Keeping up Appearances" (so funny). Loved Downton Abbey too.

But to bring back the culture of America, it means that you have to buy movies from that time.

And am I the only one who sees the ads multiplying every year on shows?
 
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I must have missed the good entertainment from our side. I can only name three movies that came with Christian themes in the last 30 years, and two of them were made by people who either weren't Christian or might/might not be a Christian. Most are too hokey for me, and the rest aren't all that Christian. Add to that, it seems a given it, it has to be about the Bible, and I like sci-fi, alternate reality, and crime scene investigation shows. (I'm giving everyone knows if there's a teddy bear in it -- unless the teddy bear is with Mark Wahlberg -- I like it.)

But Hollywood is all about money. It is business. And, although the owners and CEOs buy the anarchists' agenda, they'd change their minds the second they realized it hurts their bottom line. Business is all about "what the market will bear." The problem is the market has become a bunch of wussies and accept whatever business tells them. It's past time to get over the wussy stage.
 
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That is why I'm more and more into reading books. Any culture you want easy to get. I'm also spending $$ on buying some old classic DVDs and almost ignore TV anymore. I'm into British humor "As Time Goes By" (Judy Dench), "Keeping up Appearances" (so funny). Loved Downton Abbey too.

But to bring back the culture of America, it means that you have to buy movies from that time.

And am I the only one who sees the ads multiplying every year on shows?
Streaming, so we see old shows averaging around 50 minutes, not so old shows averaging 45 minutes, and modern shows averaging 42-43 minutes. The Big Bang Theory, (half hour comedy), is about 17 minutes long.

I could do books, but John and my taste are drastically different, and we'd lose that common ground we have with TV.
 
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Besides, when did retreat become the choice for Christians? The song is not "Backwards, Christian Soldiers." And yet, the battle cry seems to be to retreat and let the world keep on keeping on the way it's headed.

No one hears the message, if they never hear from us.
 

Lynx

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All this is over my head because it has been years since I was bored enough to watch television. But the message I am getting is, we Christians need to start making our own movies and TV shows.

Through no fault of my own I seem to be a good script writer if you ever need one. I discovered my this a while ago when I was making plays for our church puppet team. They weren't half bad, even if I do say so myself.
 
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Besides, when did retreat become the choice for Christians? The song is not "Backwards, Christian Soldiers." And yet, the battle cry seems to be to retreat and let the world keep on keeping on the way it's headed.

No one hears the message, if they never hear from us.
Somebody's been reading Chilton and North.
 
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TV is always on in the house here, but it's almost always shows on National Geographic, or the Food Network, or maybe History Channel.

Dad watches football regularly, and he likes his NCIS and spin-offs. I'm rarely ever watching TV, but I somehow have to listen it, and what I hear is enough to convince me I don't want to actually watch it.
 

Innerfire89

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Since the the late 70s Hollywood has been pressing their agendas through the TV screen. TV was actually worse at one time than it is now, although it's pretty bad. I'm sure you remember those old shows like Threes Company, which was full of sexual innuendo. In 88 a movie called The Last Temptation of Christ came out, I'm not even going to mention the content.
Even cartoons had dirty abult things hidden in them.
Like Mighty Mouse snorting coke.

They chill out for a short time and then come back full swing.

Look up Don Wildman, he's a Methodist preacher who lead many boycotts to get some decency on TV.
 
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Funny, the 1970s doesn't make me think of indecency on Three's Company. I'm thinking more Taxi Driver, Serpico, The Godfather, and The Exorcist.

I did read up on Wildmon. Did he get anywhere with his campaigns?
 

Innerfire89

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Funny, the 1970s doesn't make me think of indecency on Three's Company. I'm thinking more Taxi Driver, Serpico, The Godfather, and The Exorcist.

I did read up on Wildmon. Did he get anywhere with his campaigns?
Yes and no. He did manage to get porno removed from SevenEleven's for awhile and had a few shows pulled off the air. But Hollywood is not above lying, like the Last Tempaton of Christ, Martin Scorsese promised to change the scripts, but they just lied to have the boycotts lifted.