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NoNameMcgee

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I don’t think refusing to be taught by someone online, whom you have no way of examining, is being unteachable. Opinions are great, talking is great, but I find it foolish to use this site as a way to learn about God.
if someone tries to show you youre in error

internet
or in person

and you just assume you know every thing


dont pray in it
dont look to the word to double check your understanding

that shows you dont care about the truth
you just want to go around being right


if you blindly accept something ANYONE says about scripture
someone you trust
or a stranger


thats equally as foolish

ive never once just let someone tell me im wrong without going to scripture and prayer

but i have let many encourage me to go back to the scriptures and pray on things

where i ended up needing to change my beliefs in order to learn
 
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NoNameMcgee

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but i see what youre saying

there are SOME things i know

like if you tried to tell me Jesus isnt God

i dont NEED to go to scripture to back up my beliefs

but i might to try to prove it to you


in some ways im "unteachable" too
 
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NoNameMcgee

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I need my coffee, also. I’m too busy watching The Facts of Life to make it and get ready for the day.
geez youre quick...

that was up for seconds
 
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I don’t think refusing to be taught by someone online, whom you have no way of examining, is being unteachable. Opinions are great, talking is great, but I find it foolish to use this site as a way to learn about God.
For me, foolish is a strong word because I do investigate what people say when their opinion captures my attention.

I keep the good and disregard the bad.

If you feel uncomfortable with a faceless medium them it is your right to rather get your teachings from your church and Bible study groups. That is what is so interesting about how we were all created differently :)

God bless friend
 

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I came here to discuss... I enjoy hearing other people explain how/why they think. I also am open to learning, as I haven't arrived at the point where I'm "fixed" on every topic.

Sometimes I think I'm cursed with an empathetic approach... I can usually see both sides of a topic, and can see some merit in each... Not always, as some topics are pretty much black and white to me, but in most topics are more "gray" than black/white.

It also helps me to join a discussion and articulate how I believe or feel about any given topic. I think discussion is a healthy thing to do.
 

notmyown

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i've just glanced through the thread, but wanted to offer this thought...

sometimes i take the train to Manhattan, but don't leave Grand Central. it's a beautiful station, so i bring coffee, and a book, and i people watch. it's fascinating!

it always reminds me of an ongoing discussion my sister and i have, that as people, we assume everyone thinks as we do, and reacts to certain situations as we do, and behaves as we do. my people watching negates this, as will real interaction with others, if we pay attention.

(now is where my son would be saying, "has anyone seen mom's point?" lol)

my point is this: it's actually dangerous to assume everyone thinks as we do. because they clearly (if we pay attention) do not.
we all have a different point of reference, a different history, a different place in our walk with the Most High God.

we handicap ourselves, and do others an injustice, if we assume they're thinking something just because we ourselves think it. i grant that online, it takes time to dig beneath the surface of a series of posts to ascertain what a poster's saying. and i also grant there are people who are not willing to show themselves in a forum. (and why should they, i guess?)

but! there are some people (like me, and i believe there are others here) who really are an open book. what you see is what you get. no pretense. if you came to my house and met me, you wouldn't be a bit surprised.

this is what is known, in my case, as 'no imagination'. :D
 
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You would do better going to a mall to observe people. That way, you are in a real environment. This is artificial. If you are seeking to observe Christians, a church would be a better way to observe. Your observations about people’s interactions online would have no scientific merit.
I cannot argue with that argument... Well said
 
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Galatea

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I came here to discuss... I enjoy hearing other people explain how/why they think. I also am open to learning, as I haven't arrived at the point where I'm "fixed" on every topic.

Sometimes I think I'm cursed with an empathetic approach... I can usually see both sides of a topic, and can see some merit in each... Not always, as some topics are pretty much black and white to me, but in most topics are more "gray" than black/white.

It also helps me to join a discussion and articulate how I believe or feel about any given topic. I think discussion is a healthy thing to do.
Talking is great, I just think it is kind of silly to take instruction about spirittual matters from people online.
 
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Galatea

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i've just glanced through the thread, but wanted to offer this thought...

sometimes i take the train to Manhattan, but don't leave Grand Central. it's a beautiful station, so i bring coffee, and a book, and i people watch. it's fascinating!

it always reminds me of an ongoing discussion my sister and i have, that as people, we assume everyone thinks as we do, and reacts to certain situations as we do, and behaves as we do. my people watching negates this, as will real interaction with others, if we pay attention.

(now is where my son would be saying, "has anyone seen mom's point?" lol)

my point is this: it's actually dangerous to assume everyone thinks as we do. because they clearly (if we pay attention) do not.
we all have a different point of reference, a different history, a different place in our walk with the Most High God.

we handicap ourselves, and do others an injustice, if we assume they're thinking something just because we ourselves think it. i grant that online, it takes time to dig beneath the surface of a series of posts to ascertain what a poster's saying. and i also grant there are people who are not willing to show themselves in a forum. (and why should they, i guess?)

but! there are some people (like me, and i believe there are others here) who really are an open book. what you see is what you get. no pretense. if you came to my house and met me, you wouldn't be a bit surprised.

this is what is known, in my case, as 'no imagination'. :D
Oh I have no problem with learning from people who don’t think as I do. One of my most favorite professors was an atheist, liberal, feminist. She was brilliant and I learned to read Middle English in her Chaucer class.

She had bona fides. She was qualified. I knew SHE knew what she was talking about, so was eager to receive instruction.

If I made a username and pretended I was from England, and told you all about English life, then you would be silly to believe me and learn from me. I would not be a bona fide Englishwoman and not really know what I was attempting to teach.

Talking is great, but I remain skeptical about learning anything about God from anyone online. If I want to learn more about God, I will read the Bible and go to church.
 

notmyown

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Oh I have no problem with learning from people who don’t think as I do. One of my most favorite professors was an atheist, liberal, feminist. She was brilliant and I learned to read Middle English in her Chaucer class.

She had bona fides. She was qualified. I knew SHE knew what she was talking about, so was eager to receive instruction.

If I made a username and pretended I was from England, and told you all about English life, then you would be silly to believe me and learn from me. I would not be a bona fide Englishwoman and not really know what I was attempting to teach.

Talking is great, but I remain skeptical about learning anything about God from anyone online. If I want to learn more about God, I will read the Bible and go to church.
i'm giggling at how poorly i must have worded that post. lol!

i wasn't talking about learning from other people.
you have a right to reserve that sort of thing to your church, if you like. :)

i was speaking of learning about other people, and am sorry i conveyed it so badly.

oh, and ps! i read the same public bathroom study you did a while back, and now i use the first stall, too because i figure it's cleaner. and to be honest, when i first began reading what you wrote about it, i assumed you'd have the same reason i do.
i know! after all that time sitting in Grand Central, too. hahaha

see what i mean about what motivates us to think what we think, and do what we do, or am i still doing a rotten job? ;)
 
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Galatea

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i'm giggling at how poorly i must have worded that post. lol!

i wasn't talking about learning from other people.
you have a right to reserve that sort of thing to your church, if you like. :)

i was speaking of learning about other people, and am sorry i conveyed it so badly.

oh, and ps! i read the same public bathroom study you did a while back, and now i use the first stall, too because i figure it's cleaner. and to be honest, when i first began reading what you wrote about it, i assumed you'd have the same reason i do.
i know! after all that time sitting in Grand Central, too. hahaha

see what i mean about what motivates us to think what we think, and do what we do, or am i still doing a rotten job? ;)
Oh, talking to people is fun. I just don’t trust them to teach me anything.

I have a great urge to go against the flow, rebellion, I suppose. If the crowd likes something, I am not really interested. I am reading a biography about Hitler and have noticed some similarities between him and myself. He also had this mania for doing things differently just to be different.

But, I do not believe in racism or Eugenics, so I doubt I will want to create genocide. I also have zero desire to rule the world.
 

notmyown

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Oh, talking to people is fun. I just don’t trust them to teach me anything.

I have a great urge to go against the flow, rebellion, I suppose. If the crowd likes something, I am not really interested. I am reading a biography about Hitler and have noticed some similarities between him and myself. He also had this mania for doing things differently just to be different.

But, I do not believe in racism or Eugenics, so I doubt I will want to create genocide. I also have zero desire to rule the world.
uh, no! Tears for Fears taught us everybody wants to rule the world. :p

kidding... it sounds like a lot of thankless work, doesn't it?
 
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Galatea

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uh, no! Tears for Fears taught us everybody wants to rule the world. :p

kidding... it sounds like a lot of thankless work, doesn't it?
Not that it is thankless. Who cares about thanks? It embarrasses me. I would have the world more screwed up than it is, now.
We’d be on the short track to nuclear oblivion. Heck, I can’t manage my life, much less the world.

Plus, I am extremely lazy.
 
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if someone tries to show you youre in error

internet
or in person

and you just assume you know every thing


dont pray in it
dont look to the word to double check your understanding

that shows you dont care about the truth
you just want to go around being right
That right there.
 
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Hmmm, Hitler? He was known to be a psychopathic narcissist.

I've learned much from many here on CC. I'm not so "prideful" (to put it mildly) to think I cannot learn from others via this medium, nor do I think it "foolish" to believe I can learn from others here.
 
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???

Will, are you trying to 'stump' us? would you mind putting your thoughts
in an other way that we could understand??? I'm asking as a 'friend', I just
don't understand what you are trying to convey,,,.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Oh I have no problem with learning from people who don’t think as I do. One of my most favorite professors was an atheist, liberal, feminist. She was brilliant and I learned to read Middle English in her Chaucer class.

She had bona fides. She was qualified. I knew SHE knew what she was talking about, so was eager to receive instruction.

If I made a username and pretended I was from England, and told you all about English life, then you would be silly to believe me and learn from me. I would not be a bona fide Englishwoman and not really know what I was attempting to teach.

Talking is great, but I remain skeptical about learning anything about God from anyone online. If I want to learn more about God, I will read the Bible and go to church.
i would say it is impossible to be "brilliant" and atheist...

just based off scripture and the definition of atheist....


they become a fool and blind to truth but wise to themself and those who desire worldly temporal and usually twisted knowledge that leads to no lasting fruit


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Proverbs 1:7 - The fear of the LORD [is] the beginning of knowledge: [but] fools despise wisdom and instruction.

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Psalm 14

14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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1 Corinthians 3:19

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
 
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