Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 21 to 40 of 44
Like Tree61Likes

Miscellaneous

Random topics from random people!

Thread: Struggling in biology class, please help

  1. #21
    Senior Member Ugly's Avatar
    Join Date
    April 20th, 2011
    Age
    42
    Posts
    19,110
    Rep Power
    166

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    I'm 18 and it's my first year in college, the last 4 years I've been sheltered in a Christian school which is probably the problem. This is my first experience in the real world. It's just shell shock. I'm shy/quiet and kinda felt alone in class so I reached out here. I appreciate yours and everyone's input and helping me to adult.
    Thank you for explaining, as I was quite curious.
    There will be plenty more to shock and dismay you. Just remember truth is truth, no matter what the world says.
    It's not our job to correct everyone. Let God guide you to those people.
    No matter what the world teaches God is still in control. He knows what a being done and He has a plan.
    Enow likes this.
    Give me a new voice
    Give me a heart for repentance and make it stay
    Cause I've idolized my words
    It's all my fault
    But it's comfortable
    ~Poured Out, Rival Choir~

  2. #22
    Senior Member Miri's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 22nd, 2012
    Age
    49
    Posts
    6,851
    Blog Entries
    13
    Rep Power
    217

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    How would it go down if you put this is what evolution teaches - answer
    This is what the bible teaches - answer.

    You would not be putting down a wrong answer.
    He is God and we are not.


    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    Miri, for being Mary Poppins. (inside joke, but no, really! she's kind and no nonsense!)

  3. #23
    Senior Member Depleted's Avatar
    Join Date
    December 13th, 2015
    Age
    61
    Posts
    17,634
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    318

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    I'm 18 and it's my first year in college, the last 4 years I've been sheltered in a Christian school which is probably the problem. This is my first experience in the real world. It's just shell shock. I'm shy/quiet and kinda felt alone in class so I reached out here. I appreciate yours and everyone's input and helping me to adult.
    Wow! I just got mighty impressed with you. Biology II in first semester freshman year? Wow! Kudos! You're a smart cookie!

    You're allowed to be quiet and/or shy. (And just to let you know, being an introvert doesn't mean you have to be shy. The majority of people who participate on online forums or chats are introverts. Introvert just means we refill better alone, while extroverts refill better from other people. We can be quiet. We can be shy, but mostly it's how we refill. I just feel bad for people who think they're shy just because they're quiet or just because they aren't into group experiences. I'm an introvert, but I'm neither shy nor quiet. Hubby wishes I was a bit more quiet sometimes. And friends wish I'd be shier sometimes. lol) Just don't go thinking you're alone. Anyone who was a Christian going to public school of any type has gone through the same thing.

    And the ones who weren't Christians by the time they graduated? They got stuck with it eventually too. It doesn't take long.
    Prov910 likes this.
    Lynn

    Still woman, but no lady.

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

  4. #24
    Senior Member Depleted's Avatar
    Join Date
    December 13th, 2015
    Age
    61
    Posts
    17,634
    Blog Entries
    1
    Rep Power
    318

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Heads up for everyone saying he should tell the teacher. Not as easy as it sounds. First, by the time the teacher says such nonsense in class, he/she has already spent years/decades buying the viewpoint handed out. Meanwhile students haven't usually lived as long as the teacher has been plotting this nonsense, so they're getting popped with this new viewpoint.

    I can fluently argue that Paul's thorn in the side was a disability. Is that the first time you ever heard someone think that? Well, good, because that's the point. Now try and convince me otherwise. NOW!

    If you do, you'll just prove how little you've studied the possibility, and it's one of many possibilities.

    I've also studied the theory of evolution vs. creationism for decades, so I could come back and load up this teacher with all sorts of questions he/she can't answer. And I can make him/her recant the monkey thing, even if I can't change the viewpoint that it is evolution. But I can do that because I have studied this. You're asking someone who hasn't had decades of time to debate evolution with someone who has spent decades agreeing with it. Something like asking me to get in the ring with Mike Tyson with both my hands tied behind my back. I couldn't fight Mike Tyson with my hands untied. And the outcome is lose of battle and lose trust in my abilities based on false assumptions heaped on by others.

    I did have a prof teach us that God was arbitrary on his judgement with Jacob and Esau! Esau was punished for stuff he never did. And he proved it by reading the story.

    Little did I know, at the time, the Bible does tell why Jacob was chosen and Esau wasn't, and it wasn't based on who they were or weren't. It was based on God choosing who he would take. It was just in Romans 9, not back where the prof recited. I wasn't ready for that battle back then. I don't think Wsr is ready to battle this teacher. BUT he just had his wake up call to be prepared in the future. Pretty cool!

    God is sovereign!
    BillG likes this.
    Lynn

    Still woman, but no lady.

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. Rom. 8:28

  5. #25
    Senior Member BillG's Avatar
    Join Date
    February 15th, 2017
    Age
    49
    Posts
    3,155
    Rep Power
    165

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    I can fluently argue that Paul's thorn in the side was a disability. Is that the first time you ever heard someone think that? Well, good, because that's the point. Now try and convince me otherwise. NOW!
    His eyes I think
    Lord

    Help me to be the person my dog thinks I am.

  6. #26
    Senior Member Huckleberry's Avatar
    Join Date
    August 25th, 2013
    Age
    50
    Posts
    1,267
    Rep Power
    23

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Miri View Post
    How would it go down if you put this is what evolution teaches - answer
    This is what the bible teaches - answer.

    You would not be putting down a wrong answer.
    How it would go down is that the instructor would fail him and he'd have
    wasted his time and money, and he'd have to take the class again.
    I love how people are so "courageous" with other peoples' money.
    It's a college class, not a debate forum.
    Not the time or place to "make a stand".

  7. #27
    Senior Member MultilingualMessenger's Avatar
    Join Date
    January 27th, 2015
    Age
    25
    Posts
    2,494
    Rep Power
    115

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Huckleberry View Post
    How it would go down is that the instructor would fail him and he'd have
    wasted his time and money, and he'd have to take the class again.
    I love how people are so "courageous" with other peoples' money.
    It's a college class, not a debate forum.
    Not the time or place to "make a stand".
    Funny thing: I was "courageous" with my own money. And it went down just fine. It's not a given that the OP will go down in flames.

    Now I can't promise it will go well for everyone, but so far I haven't seen many people suggest taking any stupid "stands". People have mostly suggested quiet, non-disruptive stands. Like Miri's. *shrug*

    Quote Originally Posted by Miri View Post
    How would it go down if you put this is what evolution teaches - answer
    This is what the bible teaches - answer.

    You would not be putting down a wrong answer.

  8. #28
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    December 21st, 2012
    Age
    54
    Posts
    2,883
    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    37

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    I don't even really know how to answer this.
    Makes me wonder if the whole class wants to put the teacher on the spot by arranging a big prank like in this video to imply that one of their own has macroevolved into having mutant superpowers.

    But I bet he would call for an exorcist rather than believe that was proof of macroevolution.



    Course, the students might want to make a video of it for Youtube or even America's Funniest Home Video for a chance at megabucks.

    Or maybe not. Can't see how they could pull it off anyway.

  9. #29
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    October 5th, 2017
    Age
    28
    Posts
    6
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    I'm taking a biology II course and my teacher said he is only teaching from an evolutionary perspective, there's no open discussion, and today he said "how does it feel to know you came from a monkey". I believe in God but this feels like abuse, there's no presentation of evidence, and it's just being taught as fact. Is this normal??? I'm getting anxious about just going to class and I don't know what to do. I can't drop because it will put me back a year. I'm afraid to speak up in class and nobody else seems to be having an issue, at least no one is saying anything. Sometimes I want to leave class but I feel stuck because he doesn't go by the book and I fee like I have to stay to get an A. I'm just having a hard time dealing with this. Has anyone else had a similar experience and have advice. God bless

    Unfortunately, this is super common. I think you have a couple different options here, but I would recommend giving this up to God first and seeing how He wants to direct your path. I've had friends that speak up in class and oppose the teacher...more often than not, this doesn't end well academically. Every once in awhile, the teacher will be humbled and respect the introduction of a different perspective, but it's rare and I'm not entirely sure your teacher will sway in that direction. There is also no obligation to speak up, but I know it's extremely difficult when you genuinely disagree with someone else's belief. It's likely there are others in your class that think similarly to you--it might be beneficial to reach out and start a healthy discussion...it could take away the pressure you're feeling. Yet, first and foremost...pray diligently about this. It's a tough situation, for sure! Keep hanging in there.

  10. #30
    Senior Member Miri's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 22nd, 2012
    Age
    49
    Posts
    6,851
    Blog Entries
    13
    Rep Power
    217

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by Huckleberry View Post
    How it would go down is that the instructor would fail him and he'd have
    wasted his time and money, and he'd have to take the class again.
    I love how people are so "courageous" with other peoples' money.
    It's a college class, not a debate forum.
    Not the time or place to "make a stand".
    As far as I know, we don’t have this problem in the UK with challenging ideas
    as long as you can demonstrate you understand the theory taught.

    Education is free in the UK school until 16, and at college until 18, after that you go to
    university and have to pay for that.

    If as an adult you want to go to college or university the same applies, although if you
    are unemployed and it’s a government scheme to help you back to work, then that is
    free as well.

    However student loans don’t have to be
    paid back unless you get a job and start to earn over a certain over amount.
    Even then the amount paid back each month is small.


    https://www.gov.uk/repaying-your-student-loan

    https://www.gov.uk/repaying-your-stu...n/what-you-pay
    He is God and we are not.


    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    Miri, for being Mary Poppins. (inside joke, but no, really! she's kind and no nonsense!)

  11. #31
    Senior Member Miri's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 22nd, 2012
    Age
    49
    Posts
    6,851
    Blog Entries
    13
    Rep Power
    217

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Oh and I know this is a 2006 article but creationism is also discussed
    and debated in classes along with evolution. Both ideas appear or exam
    papers. The exam is a test to see if you understand the ideas/concepts etc
    rather than your own personal beliefs.

    Im surprised the US doesn’t do the same, that’s why I thought putting
    both ideas would not be wrong.


    https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...hools.religion
    He is God and we are not.


    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    Miri, for being Mary Poppins. (inside joke, but no, really! she's kind and no nonsense!)

  12. #32
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    August 19th, 2017
    Posts
    3
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Thanks guys, I feel so much better. I was not adjusting well. My Mom is a teacher and didn't understand why I was struggling, Dad said my teacher was an idiot. I felt like I needed some more opinions lol. Even though I do still feel like I'm being "forced" to drink slanted material, I now understand that's just the way the world is and I can spit it out when class is over. I'll dodge his swings in class, I don't know enough to say anything and it doesn't seem appropriate so I'll just get the grade and learn more about it as I go. Thanks again!
    Ugly, Miri, Enow and 1 others like this.

  13. #33
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    November 16th, 2017
    Age
    33
    Posts
    7
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    wsr_24, I am sorry that some responses on here, to your post, aren't very encouraging or empathetic to your situation. I remember taking a class in High school and there was a lesson that tried to debunk creation. It was honestly just one of those things that I didn't agree with but I came to class and went through it anyway. The thing is Jesus knows your heart and the circumstances. I don't agree with everything my instructors in college have said or teach but I know taking their class doesn't mean I am compromising my faith. Our acceptance of Jesus/salvation is set in stone and not compromised by a class or instructor's words. Your instructor's beliefs are his and not yours. Just keep reflecting Jesus and stand firm in your convictions. You don't have to proclaim or pretend you believe we came from monkeys. Be honest with your convictions as your instructor has. If he has the right to proclaim something, so do you I feel for you and completely understand how uncomfortable this situation could be. Stay strong!

  14. #34
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    November 16th, 2017
    Age
    33
    Posts
    7
    Rep Power
    0

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Glad you feel better about the situation, wsr_24!
    Violet24 likes this.

  15. #35
    Senior Member Miri's Avatar
    Join Date
    July 22nd, 2012
    Age
    49
    Posts
    6,851
    Blog Entries
    13
    Rep Power
    217

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    Thanks guys, I feel so much better. I was not adjusting well. My Mom is a teacher and didn't understand why I was struggling, Dad said my teacher was an idiot. I felt like I needed some more opinions lol. Even though I do still feel like I'm being "forced" to drink slanted material, I now understand that's just the way the world is and I can spit it out when class is over. I'll dodge his swings in class, I don't know enough to say anything and it doesn't seem appropriate so I'll just get the grade and learn more about it as I go. Thanks again!
    Your dad’s right, your teacher is an idiot, the bible says that a fool says there is no God.

    You might want to keep that between you, your dad and God though.
    He is God and we are not.


    Quote Originally Posted by notmyown View Post
    Miri, for being Mary Poppins. (inside joke, but no, really! she's kind and no nonsense!)

  16. #36
    Senior Member Demi777's Avatar
    Join Date
    October 13th, 2014
    Age
    17
    Posts
    4,856
    Blog Entries
    45
    Rep Power
    124

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    imma tell u how i handled this.. i wrote the answer on the paper that the teacher wanted, got a good grade, and when i was supposed to give him my paper i said '' from your creationalist' and slammed it on his desk, turned around and left.
    Had no more problems with him after that
    God bless you
    ~*~Demi777 ~*~

    My Testimony:
    http://christianchat.com/testimonies...shortened.html

  17. #37
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    December 21st, 2012
    Age
    54
    Posts
    2,883
    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    37

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    Thanks guys, I feel so much better. I was not adjusting well. My Mom is a teacher and didn't understand why I was struggling, Dad said my teacher was an idiot. I felt like I needed some more opinions lol. Even though I do still feel like I'm being "forced" to drink slanted material, I now understand that's just the way the world is and I can spit it out when class is over. I'll dodge his swings in class, I don't know enough to say anything and it doesn't seem appropriate so I'll just get the grade and learn more about it as I go. Thanks again!
    You can always pray this: it's not like you can't bear witness of Him outside the class.


  18. #38
    Senior Member Galatea's Avatar
    Join Date
    November 25th, 2016
    Age
    38
    Posts
    3,677
    Rep Power
    125

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    I'm taking a biology II course and my teacher said he is only teaching from an evolutionary perspective, there's no open discussion, and today he said "how does it feel to know you came from a monkey". I believe in God but this feels like abuse, there's no presentation of evidence, and it's just being taught as fact. Is this normal??? I'm getting anxious about just going to class and I don't know what to do. I can't drop because it will put me back a year. I'm afraid to speak up in class and nobody else seems to be having an issue, at least no one is saying anything. Sometimes I want to leave class but I feel stuck because he doesn't go by the book and I fee like I have to stay to get an A. I'm just having a hard time dealing with this. Has anyone else had a similar experience and have advice. God bless
    No offense, but your anecdote sounds false. No reputable evolutionist would say “how does it feel to come from a monkey”. In evolutionary theory, man ascended (or descended as the case may be) from apes, not monkeys. Apes and monkeys are two entirely different genuses. Get yourself a new biology teacher, he is teaching you the theory of evolution incorrectly.
    Philippians 1:6 "Being confident of this very thing, that He which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ"

  19. #39
    Senior Member Prov910's Avatar
    Join Date
    January 10th, 2017
    Age
    56
    Posts
    672
    Rep Power
    38

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    The advice in this thread telling you to answer the teacher's questions with what he considers to be the right answer for the course is correct. Either that, or change colleges to one where the don't teach that evolution is the only possibility.

    That said, I find it perplexing that many scientists—perhaps most scientists—are convinced that the Big Bang coupled with the Theory of Evolution is the only possible explanation for the creation of the universe and life on earth. Even if you're not a Christian, it boils down to: Big Bang = something from nothing. Intelligent Design = something from something. How could someone claim to have no preconceived bias and still maintain that the Big Bang is more likely than Intelligent Design? I call that narrow minded.
    ================================================== ===========
    10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding. Prov. 9:10

  20. #40
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    December 21st, 2012
    Age
    54
    Posts
    2,883
    Blog Entries
    4
    Rep Power
    37

    Default Re: Struggling in biology class, please help

    Quote Originally Posted by wsr_24 View Post
    Thanks guys, I feel so much better. I was not adjusting well. My Mom is a teacher and didn't understand why I was struggling, Dad said my teacher was an idiot. I felt like I needed some more opinions lol. Even though I do still feel like I'm being "forced" to drink slanted material, I now understand that's just the way the world is and I can spit it out when class is over. I'll dodge his swings in class, I don't know enough to say anything and it doesn't seem appropriate so I'll just get the grade and learn more about it as I go. Thanks again!
    By the way, the point for sharing that practical joke video is to wonder if the teacher saw something like that, would he call a scientist and the media or would he call an exorcist?

    Some questions for yourself to know and consider about the evolution theory;

    Science is about what can be observed and proven; therefore is the medthod for macroevolution is unknown, why science says it is true?

    How can anything be confirmed by our dating method beyond human history when there are errant dating results within human history like the carbon dating of a living mollusks as 2,300 years old dead?

    How can we believe anything science says about the evolution theory as fact when they used to say without a doubt that birds evolving from the dinosaurs, they now say that the dinosaurs have evolved from the birds?

    How can gradual macroevolution still be taken to be true when Steven Jay Gould postulated "Punctuated Equilibrium" or "Rapid Macroevolution" that he says along with other leading scientists in the evolution theory that there is too huge a gap in the fossil records for gradual macroevolution to be true? How can science say both are true when Punctuated Macroevolution was postulated because gradual macroevolution cannot be true?

    Isn't macroevolution just an elaborate way of proving that spontaneous generation is true in the realm of the theoritical even though it cannot be observed nor proven, thus a false science as opposed to what real science is when it has disproven spontaneous generation?

    Why is it that they treat the theory of evolution as some unbending law while treating the laws of science as if they are bendable in order for them to say that?

    These are scientific questions and you may not want to ask them in class until you done research on it for references to back up those questions, but this is to show you why christians are being persecuted in the world and christians get offended at the Bible because of that false science for what it is.

    It is a good idea to not challenge the status quo in the class if you prefer a good grade but if the Lord leads you otherwise by asking scientific questions based on common sense, they really cannot prove that man evolved from the monkey.

    Indeed, check and see if there is a Bible study group on campus to use for your spare time if you feel like your faith is wavering.

    Jesus validated scripture and referred to Noah's flood as a warning to believers of what is coming to be ready to go as well as abiding in Him as His disciple when He comes as the Bridegroom to escape what is coming on the earth, otherwise they would be received later on as His after the great tribulation. Luke 21:33-36 & Luke 17:26-37 & Luke 12:40-49 in the KJV

    If you read this, then perhap the Lord has led you back to consider those scriptural references above to strengthen your faith in Him and His words to not allow that false science which is still hypothesizing in the dark to overthrow your faith.

    1 Timothy 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Class... -_-
    By DamaraXD in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: September 14th, 2016, 11:23 AM
  2. Class survey ... help
    By karissa in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: November 29th, 2014, 07:46 PM
  3. struggling with issues that i am struggling to overcome
    By franswa in forum Prayer Requests
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: November 6th, 2014, 03:10 AM
  4. Disturbing Biology lesson.
    By Grey in forum Bible Discussion Forum
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: October 6th, 2011, 05:28 PM
  5. high school Biology and the Bible
    By AnandaHya in forum Miscellaneous
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: March 25th, 2011, 04:33 PM