"Secret Societies" not secret anymore?

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shittim

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I am aware of a full gospel fellowship that is not open to membership in secret societies, I assume they mean Mason's and associate bodies, Oddfellows and Rebekah's, and asks on it's membership papers.
It seems to me we are in the age where nothing is secret, there are you tube videos for all the supposedly secret societies we come in contact with by and large, so that the prohibition against is a moot point.
What say ye??
blessings
 

tourist

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I don't belong to any secret societies so I don't have an opinion.
 
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My father was a high Mucky Muck on the Divan at his "Temple." It really did make it difficult to even communicate with him about things of God.
 

shittim

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The couple who led me to the infilling of the Holy Spirit had participated in a lodge at one time, they told me there was nothing there that would hurt a person spiritually. On my own part I saw where some would make it their church, which of course would be missing the mark, as would mere church attendance and/or weekly worship would miss the mark of a vital relationship.
 

blue_ladybug

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A secret isn't a secret if more than one person knows about it..
 

shittim

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That is what I said, they're prohibition against "secret societies" is a moot point by that reason.
 

shittim

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I watched a morman temple video of what takes place in their inner worship rituals, looks based on some of these others.
 
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I am aware of a full gospel fellowship that is not open to membership in secret societies, I assume they mean Mason's and associate bodies, Oddfellows and Rebekah's, and asks on it's membership papers.
It seems to me we are in the age where nothing is secret, there are you tube videos for all the supposedly secret societies we come in contact with by and large, so that the prohibition against is a moot point.
What say ye??
blessings
They say secret societies,but people mention them.

I suppose they really do not care as long as their ways are not in main stream society,at least not yet,for they do not want to push it in society,for the people would not accept it.

Maybe they like to have their secret societies known by name so people will talk about them,so they can appear to be conspiracy theorists,and lose credibility,especially Christianity,wanting people to view them as nuts,as they talk about groups that are not visible,and do not come out and tell their agenda to the public.

But occult groups will have an inner circle,and an outer circle,like Freemasons,or anybody that operates like them.

Alice Baily,the biggest prophet of the new age movement,who interpreted the Bible according to the occult,and said Lucifer is the helper of this world,was married to a Freemason who agreed with her writings,and they put out a printing press to print out all the books she wrote,by a Tibetan monk that gave her what to write down.

They put out a web site to promote her books,and teachings,lucistrust.org.,and she was following Madame Blavatsky,house of theosophy,who said that Satan was both God and the devil.

Alice Bailey wrote that there is an inner circle,and an outer circle,of Freemason,as well as groups like them,and the inner circle is the true Church.

Secret societies are so extreme that they do not want their ways to be out in main stream society,but they want those ways to eventually be the mainstream in the world.

God warns us of the new age movement(1 Timothy 4:1-5),and that the time will come when the world will not want to endure the truth of the Bible,but will only want to hear it according to the unified religious system,based on the new age movement(2 Timothy 4:2-4),spiritual evolution through nature.

The new age movement is the future for this sinful world,and will pave the way to the beast kingdom that acknowledges no God,but the God of forces,the power of nature as their God,and will be international law that a man and a woman cannot marry for population reduction,and to be a vegetarian,which we see an increase in homosexual activity,and the acceptance of it,and being a vegetarian is becoming more popular.

The inner circle does not want their ways to be in mainstream society for they would not accept them,so they put out an outer circle that is a visible building,and teachings,and get people interested in it,and by the process of time they become more interested in the occult,and lust for more power through nature,as human nature will do,and by the time the world gets to the beast kingdom,the outer circle became the inner circle,and the beast kingdom can be implemented.

The inner circle is not a full membership Gospel not open to the public if someone believes it is claiming Christianity,and Jesus is Lord and Savior,for they do not believe that,for they are about exalting self,and nature worshippers.

Not even the outer circle of Freemasons have to claim Jesus if they do not want to,and the outer circle of the new age movement does not claim Jesus as Lord and Savior.

The new age movement can cover all the occult groups in a visible way,the outer circle,to get the ball rolling for the world to go towards the beast kingdom,and say people are still evolving,which is through nature,which is what they believe in evolution which would be through nature,and it will make sense to the world,for many people believe in evolution.

So they want to cause to be popular the occult,evolution,homosexuality,and being a vegetarian,before the Gentile nations come together,and say,Peace and safety,and the unified religious system goes in to affect,spiritual evolution through nature,and forbid to marry,and command to abstain from meats,that will lead the world to the beast kingdom,and the man of sin claims to be God by harnessing the power of nature,evolved,and will share this power with all who follow him,and they believe they will get the power that they been lusting for through nature.

The things they do now in the occult to try to get power through nature will be like baby toys to them when they get to the beast kingdom,and they will follow the beast because they are craving some serious power through nature.

The outer circle became the inner circle,and the beast kingdom can be implemented with the acceptance of the world,and the inner circle,secret societies ways can be visible to the mainstream world.

A slow conditioning,which one of those ways is also to cause Christianity to appear hypocritical,and false.
 
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That is what I said, they're prohibition against "secret societies" is a moot point by that reason.
A lot of people base their "righteousness" on who they shun and look down on. Maybe that has something to do with why they put those rules in place.
 

shittim

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Don't we all when we compare ourselves to the each other or the world?
Would that we all would keep our eyes on Jesus just as He desires.
When the adversary becomes involved he attempts to twist what He has created.
blessings
 
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Secret societies that control the world are not capable of taking down YouTube videos exposing their secrets even though all it would take is a few reports.
 

shittim

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Yep, too much energy placed on an issue that is not a threat or even an inconvenience, thus the resistance to them is
a type of legalism.
 

Adstar

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Secret societies that control the world are not capable of taking down YouTube videos exposing their secrets even though all it would take is a few reports.
They don't have to... Most people simply do not want to believe such reports.. In the end that's their best cover.. People not wanting to believe..

It is very easy to give people information when they really want to hear it..
It is almost impossible to to give people information when they desperately do not want it to be true..

It's this way with the Word of God.. If a person does not want to believe it you can spend hours and hours using scripture and arguments but if they do not want to believe it's like you have spent hours banging your head against a brick wall..
 

Lynx

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The only thing I know is I'm not a member of any of them. I made up my mind long ago to live my life as if there are no secrets. In the internet age this practice has stood me well.
 

shittim

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Yes Adstar, I believe I understand what you are saying, sharing the Gospel is that way, the Holy Spirit needs to prepare the heart first for the best receptivity to The Word.
 
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"Do You Want To Know A Secret"

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You'll never know how much I really care

Listen
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Do you promise not to tell, whoa oh, oh

Closer
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Say the words you long to hear
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Listen
Do you want to know a secret
Do you promise not to tell, whoa oh, oh

Closer
Let me whisper in your ear
Say the words you long to hear
I'm in love with you

I've known the secret for a week or two
Nobody knows, just we two

Listen
Do you want to know a secret
Do you promise not to tell, whoa oh, oh

Closer
Let me whisper in your ear
Say the words you long to hear
I'm in love with you

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