The Earth is a (GLOBE)

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Unless you are talking about an iceberg in Alaska. I haven't. if it was flat...then why do certain parts of the world have sunrise while others don't. It should be light at once on a flat plane. and on the sea, why do we see it is rounded in the distance. Wish I had my sony to prove what I took a picture of.
The OP also made this argument inside his fortified wall. When you turn the lights on in your bathroom, does your entire house become illuminated? If I carried a wireless light bulb to the center of a football stadium, would the entire football stadium become lit up?

Same concept, the sun isn't strong enough for it's light to reach the entire earth. Most people reject the flat earth without deep thought or investigation because they apply what they know about the globe earth and immediately deny it as possible. For you the sun is enormous and so strong it could never be thought of as not being able to light up an entire flat surface at once.

It's impossible to believe the earth is flat while you simultaneously believe NASA is credible, that men have walked on the moon, and there is a rover on mars. Arguing flat earth with you people is pointless until you see through the lesser deceptions. If you are not interested in doing so or have unbreakable trust in worldly authority figures, its just not going to happen.
 
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MichaelOwen

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Prime example of a flat earther with laughable logic to boot
 
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Prime example of a flat earther with laughable logic to boot
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Prime example of stubbornness. Posts a ridiculous wall of text and gets argumentative when his audience tells them they aren't receiving the message he wants to convey.
 

MichaelOwen

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Only on the basis that they cannot read it. Yeah I posted a wall, but at least I was genuine about it. All you ever do is contradict people who don't believe in your whack theories. It's pretty obvious YOUR the one stuck in your fortified wall with your delusions of grandeur about a flat earth. And saying I'm kept in the dark is speculation when I help build and support these programs, so until you work in this area and know something about it, I suggest you keep your theories and delusions to yourself, you just look worse and worse and worse, and quite frankly, it is not going to convince anyone of it, because most people have a brain, and actually use it!
 

blue_ladybug

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Opinions are like eyeballs, everyone has one.. lol
 
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Only on the basis that they cannot read it. Yeah I posted a wall, but at least I was genuine about it. All you ever do is contradict people who don't believe in your whack theories. It's pretty obvious YOUR the one stuck in your fortified wall with your delusions of grandeur about a flat earth. And saying I'm kept in the dark is speculation when I help build and support these programs, so until you work in this area and know something about it, I suggest you keep your theories and delusions to yourself, you just look worse and worse and worse, and quite frankly, it is not going to convince anyone of it, because most people have a brain, and actually use it!
When you use all caps for emphasis, make sure the word is correct.

When you help build and support these programs, I hope that you use paragraphs in YOUR reports.
 

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When you use all caps for emphasis, make sure the word is correct.

When you help build and support these programs, I hope that you use paragraphs in YOUR reports.
...and edited for clarity as well.
 

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Only on the basis that they cannot read it. Yeah I posted a wall, but at least I was genuine about it. All you ever do is contradict people who don't believe in your whack theories. It's pretty obvious YOUR the one stuck in your fortified wall with your delusions of grandeur about a flat earth. And saying I'm kept in the dark is speculation when I help build and support these programs, so until you work in this area and know something about it, I suggest you keep your theories and delusions to yourself, you just look worse and worse and worse, and quite frankly, it is not going to convince anyone of it, because most people have a brain, and actually use it!
He is just a member with a contrary opinion on whether or not the earth is flat or round. Obviously, like yourself, he is a well educated man. You did write a very good OP. The problem for me was not the content but in the way that it was presented, i.e. lack of paragraphs. This is a common complaint on this site but quite understandable.
 

MichaelOwen

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He is just a member with a contrary opinion on whether or not the earth is flat or round. Obviously, like yourself, he is a well educated man. You did write a very good OP. The problem for me was not the content but in the way that it was presented, i.e. lack of paragraphs. This is a common complaint on this site but quite understandable.
What can I do to make it more presentable? Break it up into more paragraphs?
 
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[video=youtube;AWJpjgWoR1k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWJpjgWoR1k[/video]

Here is a short 2 minute video of someone in scuba gear serving as a camera man for an ISS spacewalker. Not expecting anyone to watch it and immediately deny the authenticity of ISS footage. Its just an example of the kind of "evidence" flat-liners have that lead us to believe its a hoax.
 

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What can I do to make it more presentable? Break it up into more paragraphs?
The OP didn't have any paragraphs period. Not more paragraphs, proper paragraphs, with each paragraph conveying a single relevant concise point.
 
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blue_ladybug

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Michael, don't bother with it. Just use paragraphs the next time you make a really long post. :)

Ladybug's eyes will thank you immensely.. ;)
 
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So, I got about halfway through the wall before my eyes started tearing up from strain.


What I got from it basically is what you've been saying all along:

The world is a globe because science told me so, along with NASA and my pre-k teacher.


I understand why you are so adamant about proving your point using what you know, and I don't blame you Mr. Owen.

I just urge you to look beyond the common sources and "evidence" of a globe earth and you try to look into some very real possibilities.






1. https://ibb.co/mXkTUb

This here is a tail mounted shot at about 30,000ft, if you notice there is indeed a curve... But also the tail of the plane is abnormally curved and it follows the same radius as the rest of the shot.... This means the camera has a fish eye lens, as most "action" cams do...

2. https://ibb.co/fwCiUb

This is also another fish eye effect, this pic is from the show mythbusters, clearly you can see that the plane (U2) has just taken off and it is not even at altitude yet and there is an exaggerated curve on the right side of the frame. This goes to show
how far they are willing to go to make sure we get our daily dosage of curvature.



So can we now agree that a simple photo showing curve means NOTHING?


3. https://ibb.co/fMmovG

Here is a high altitude photo taken with a camera free of the fish eye effect. Clearly no curve, and much different than the other photos. This is from a high altitude balloon, link to vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg


This is just to show that nothing is what it seems, and that you need to dig deeper into your globe model and look at the whole flat earth things with no bias.

Trust me, you will only find more and more clues.
 

MichaelOwen

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So, I got about halfway through the wall before my eyes started tearing up from strain.


What I got from it basically is what you've been saying all along:

The world is a globe because science told me so, along with NASA and my pre-k teacher.


I understand why you are so adamant about proving your point using what you know, and I don't blame you Mr. Owen.

I just urge you to look beyond the common sources and "evidence" of a globe earth and you try to look into some very real possibilities.






1. https://ibb.co/mXkTUb

This here is a tail mounted shot at about 30,000ft, if you notice there is indeed a curve... But also the tail of the plane is abnormally curved and it follows the same radius as the rest of the shot.... This means the camera has a fish eye lens, as most "action" cams do...

2. https://ibb.co/fwCiUb

This is also another fish eye effect, this pic is from the show mythbusters, clearly you can see that the plane (U2) has just taken off and it is not even at altitude yet and there is an exaggerated curve on the right side of the frame. This goes to show
how far they are willing to go to make sure we get our daily dosage of curvature.



So can we now agree that a simple photo showing curve means NOTHING?


3. https://ibb.co/fMmovG

Here is a high altitude photo taken with a camera free of the fish eye effect. Clearly no curve, and much different than the other photos. This is from a high altitude balloon, link to vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQITXbcz2hg


This is just to show that nothing is what it seems, and that you need to dig deeper into your globe model and look at the whole flat earth things with no bias.

Trust me, you will only find more and more clues.
I don't have to find more clues. I've been inside the ISS headquarters here in Huntsville at Redstone Arsenal, and I've seen the live feeds and transmissions from the astronauts/cosmonauts aboard the ISS, so don't feed me that crap, cause that's all it is, you're feeding people crap.

[video=youtube;GcuQuMinrCo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcuQuMinrCo[/video]

Go ahead and explain that one, I dare you (by the way, no fish eye)
 
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I don't have to find more clues. I've been inside the ISS headquarters here in Huntsville at Redstone Arsenal, and I've seen the live feeds and transmissions from the astronauts/cosmonauts aboard the ISS, so don't feed me that crap, cause that's all it is, you're feeding people crap.

[video=youtube;GcuQuMinrCo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcuQuMinrCo[/video]

Go ahead and explain that one, I dare you


Why is it that you are not saying anything about the photos I have just shown you?

Doesn't that make you curious at all?


They use CGI, and special effects.

Its 2017... haven't you gone to the movies lately?

Also, it is not hard to have a tape on a loop showing people floating around, specially if they are going to have visitors....
 

MichaelOwen

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Why is it that you are not saying anything about the photos I have just shown you?

Doesn't that make you curious at all?


They use CGI, and special effects.

Its 2017... haven't you gone to the movies lately?

Also, it is not hard to have a tape on a loop showing people floating around, specially if they are going to have visitors....
Cause I've seen the photos and I can tell you those balloons don't go near as high as you need to truly see the curvature of the Earth, and there you go with your "they use CGI" cliché. You think you have an explanation for everything you see to try and debunk facts, but you fail, every time. And you fail to recognize that these are space programs all around the Earth, and if NASA is lying, then THEY too are lying....hmmm use your brain!
 
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Seedz

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Cause I've seen the photos and I can tell you those balloons don't go near as high as you need to truly see the curvature of the Earth, and there you go with your "they use CGI" cliché. You think you have an explanation for everything you see to try and debunk facts, but you fail, every time. And you fail to recognize that these are space programs all around the Earth, and if NASA is lying, then THEY too are lying....hmmm use your brain!

Since when has the beast's agenda only involved the USA???


Don't you realize satan wants to deceive ALL of mankind?

They don't just stop at NASA, all of the governments and Elites are controlled by the enemy.....


Please think about this.
 
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pckts

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Why is it that you are not saying anything about the photos I have just shown you?

Doesn't that make you curious at all?


They use CGI, and special effects.

Its 2017... haven't you gone to the movies lately?

Also, it is not hard to have a tape on a loop showing people floating around, specially if they are going to have visitors....
My video was ignored as well (as it was the three other times I posted it in other threads). They either don't look at all, or don't want to acknowledge it whosoever because they can't attack it, nor do they want to lend any credibility at all to flat earth.

In a few pages you will be accused of never supplying supporting evidence for your argument.
 
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Cause I've seen the photos and I can tell you those balloons don't go near as high as you need to truly see the curvature of the Earth, and there you go with your "they use CGI" cliché. You think you have an explanation for everything you see to try and debunk facts, but you fail, every time. And you fail to recognize that these are space programs all around the Earth, and if NASA is lying, then THEY too are lying....hmmm use your brain!
You people claim you can see curvature in an airplane, and also claim the weather balloons don't go high enough to see curvature even though they go much higher than airplanes.