Where is the line between insanity and creativity?

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Socreta93

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Is there one, or whatever we decide it is?
 
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(One of those questions that need context. lol)
 
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"Insanity" is actually whatever the majority of Society decides it is.
 
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Everyone knows that there Is a GOD so then I will say that Insanity would not save the person If at one time they were sane and did not accept CHRIST because GOD Is not mocked,we reap what we have sown and creativity would not matter,It's just another way of proving that all come short of the glory of GOD trying to be righteous In there own strength,
 
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It’s all relative, one person’s insanity is another person’s normal.

People think I’m insane! Case in point. :p
 

brighthouse98

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I am just a simple man, so I look at this very simple. Have you ever witnessed an insane person creating anything to help another except themselves? Those who are insane have the ability to deceive sane people! Ask Charles Mansion for example or Adolf Hitler? The mindset of the sane rests upon our Jesus to cause sanity to someone who is not totally sane!( 2 Tim 1:6)

Me for example,for before Jesus many would have thought me very insane! The playground of darkness deceives light,it shows a form of light, a form which deceives others as if they themselves are part of it,but really are not!( 1 John 2:19-21)

We know many preachers today like this! Any lie which even seems small is not! The sane mind which Jesus gives us is accountable, the insane looks to make others accountable to the person themselve! Of course one could site many differences beyond what I am speaking upon,but this is the stating point in most cases!
 

stand2

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Was Edgar Allen Poe insane ? Picasso ? Hawthorn ? How is a person that is "insane" create anything ?
 
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Was Edgar Allen Poe insane ? Picasso ? Hawthorn ? How is a person that is "insane" create anything ?
According to the world,Maybe not but If he did not accept CHRIST I would say that being creative Is still falling short of the glory of GOD.
 

Adstar

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Is there one, or whatever we decide it is?
God Knows...

We can speculate...

Governments can mandate...

And Judges can adjudicate...

Psyche wards can accommodate...
 

Lynx

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INSANE: Somebody sits on a stepladder with a fishing pole that is held over a bucket of water.

ARTISTIC: Somebody sits on a stepladder with a fishing pole that is held over a bucket of water, with a sign in front of him about existentialism and whether the reflection in the water might be the real person.

The only thing keeping insane people from being artistic is good marketing. The world needs more PR people.
 

Lynx

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NOTA BIEN: Sorry Socreta, I know these answers I've been giving aren't the most deeply philosophical statements the world has ever seen. But the questions have been rather perfunctory and this is the best I can do.
 
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La_Vie_En_Rose

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I don’t understand why there must be a dileneation. Vincent van Gogh comes to mind. I don’t think he was completely insane, but he was depressed.
 
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This is some of my art work.

Some people would think the first is arty, while the second is insane.
I think they are insane for thinking the second picture is insane. :p

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Was Edgar Allen Poe insane ? Picasso ? Hawthorn ? How is a person that is "insane" create anything ?
Actually mental illness tends to foster the most creative people. Not that all mental illness means "insane", but there is a correlation nonetheless.
 
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I don’t understand why there must be a dileneation. Vincent van Gogh comes to mind. I don’t think he was completely insane, but he was depressed.
Well this thread isn't about what "must" be. It's one person's interest in finding a distinction.
An artistic person may create fiction violence, for example, without ever having the slightest intention of carrying it out.
An insane person may create ways to be violent, then carry it out.
So though not the purpose of the thread, saying it "must", I think the distinction is quite valid.
 

seoulsearch

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This thread remind me of a guy I used to work with who was an artist and worked in advertising.

He said he was a Christian but told me that he couldn't give up drugs because that's when he was at his most creative, and therefore, produced his best work.

I have always found it interesting that many of the greatest artists, comedians, etc. in history have also often had problems with bipolar episodes and substance abuse issues.

Could some (not all, but some) cases of extreme creativity be seen as a bi-product of mental instability?

It's a bit heart-breaking that many people often seem to choose to walk through the door of insanity on purpose (via drugs, etc.) because they think that's where they'll find their most creative side, or in some cases, are actually trying to find relief from it.
 
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maxwel

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Is there one, or whatever we decide it is?


If YOU cannot tell whether you're creative or insane...

we won't be having dinner in a place with any sharp tableware.


: )
 

BenFTW

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If YOU cannot tell whether you're creative or insane...

we won't be having dinner in a place with any sharp tableware.


: )
You'll just end up being one of Hannibal's creative masterpieces.

 

BenFTW

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The line between insanity and creativity is determined by appreciation, one might've considered Thomas Edison insane having made a thousand attempts at the light bulb, yet once he succeeded in his endeavor and people appreciated the bulb for what it offered, he was creative. Innovative. So it is with art, the imagination coming up with conceptual ideas then putting them into form to be a spectacle.

Some people's imaginings are profoundly disturbing, yet others amusing; when witnessing such creations one wonders where the mind of the artist is or how it got there. Are they insane or are they creative? It all depends upon your appreciation, a subjective matter.

The labeling of a person as insane would most likely be due to method, and the end result the defense upon such an accusation. Consider a method actor playing a role that requires being in numbing cold, going through freezing rivers, and eating raw meat to survive. They actually go through this ordeal for the sake of a movie, yet once the film is made, given awards. Was their method insane? It could be argued, but what of their delivery? Creative. Which brings us back to the case in point. Appreciation.
 
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I really don't think insanity and creativity are connected.



Creativity means when the first try doesn't work, try something else.