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mcubed

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I smoke a pack -2 packs a day and I have to have surgery. My Dr, ofcourse, told me to quit smoking, but said if you can't start vaping 6 weeks before and for 6 weeks after. So my question is to smokers who now vap, or whatever what product should I use; any suggestions? I know quit. I am the queen of quitting, it's the staying stopped, well let's face it I DON'T. But I am willing to vape. I tried that Blue about 5 years ago but I did not get that satisfaction of feeling it go down my esophagus into my lungs like cigarettes. I'm looking for truly the same thing in vaping, if possible....

Thank you for your help.
 
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I smoke a pack -2 packs a day and I have to have surgery. My Dr, ofcourse, told me to quit smoking, but said if you can't start vaping 6 weeks before and for 6 weeks after. So my question is to smokers who now vap, or whatever what product should I use; any suggestions? I know quit. I am the queen of quitting, it's the staying stopped, well let's face it I DON'T. But I am willing to vape. I tried that Blue about 5 years ago but I did not get that satisfaction of feeling it go down my esophagus into my lungs like cigarettes. I'm looking for truly the same thing in vaping, if possible....

Thank you for your help.
i started smoking when I was 17. Always struggled along the way with putting it down.

Now ive been smoke free for 4 months thanks to the power of God because I was very addicted.

I did try vapes, and they are somewhat better but eventually you'd want to quit eveything if possible for you.

Try a kangertech tank, like a mini, and segeli box mod.

1. It will help with the cravings while keeping out the other nasty stuff you find in a cig.

2. It will actually feel close to the real thing ( depending on the juice and mg you chose, I suggest you start with 12mg and see what you feel, you can always up it from there. Too high mg and you will get sick. You can taper down)

3. It might be a good step down.

4. Vaping is not healthier than smoking.

Ask God to deliver you from it, and try your best. That's the only thing that worked for me.
 
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mcubed

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Thank you for taking this seriously, most of all, and the advice.
 
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Thank you for taking this seriously, most of all, and the advice.

Not sure if I'm allowed to post links to the products here? But if so, I can show you something that can help.
 

mcubed

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Not sure if I'm allowed to post links to the products here? But if so, I can show you something that can help.

Send it to me in the e-mail.

You know G-d delivered me from dope when I was 18, now 45, but not smoking... I think He may want me to work for something by faith...funny, not haha funny, right....!?!

Thank you,

Mae
 
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kaylagrl

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Not sure if I'm allowed to post links to the products here? But if so, I can show you something that can help.
My hubby is trying to quit too.Any advice would be helpful.
 
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Having been a compulsive quitter in the past (I quit 3 times in one day once don't ask), but at the same time an innovative thinker, I've tried every method out there, but the most success has been with my own methods.

But one method I have not tried, and it works in 'just about everything else' is teamwork. It would be nice to have a team of people trying to quit smoking, together. Strength in numbers. This is a method I have not tried because I'm not sure if it really exists. Yes there are some communities out there, but meh. People somewhat on my level, compared to randomers with the same goal, I think has more strength.

That's just a theory. But it works in everything else.

As for my method which was extremely successful (compared to my lack of success quitting); Basically I thought about what the truth was (the truth will set you free), but I'm also big on psychology too. Is addiction to smoking real, or is it more of a habitual addiction? Will you die if you don't smoke? Are most of the reactions when quitting, fear-based? Is fear a distortion of truth? Is fear an illusion? Is needing to smoke an illusion?

So my method, which crazily enough worked straight away was; before I sleep (which is an important time to reprogram yourself), I spent about 10 minutes visualising the next day, and visualising the truth. I wasn't addicted. I could see someone smoke and I wasn't addicted. I could see cigarettes and I wasn't addicted. I was free from smoking because, addiction is an illusion. I was free from the fear of quitting, because I remembered (reconstructed memory) that it was an illusion. I was free from smoking.

Sure enough, the next day, and every day I continued, I had zero feeling about needing to smoking, zero withdrawal symptoms.

This really worked for me, not sure what went wrong, something happened and then that impulsive, distorted illusion of cigarettes being the solution to calm down (when they actually break down our ability to 'deal' with stress) won. I may have thought hey everything is fine, and stopped my method before it was enough. How many days to create a new habit? It gets longer the older you get, an approximate would be your age in days. I quit for 20 days, which was a record for me (an impulsive smoker). Doesn't sound like much, but I believe others who used this method would be way more successful than me, since they don't have my issues. Most people are successful when they do things and follow it through, as when I start doing something I tend to sabotage myself, get bored, or have a short attention span to repetitive behaviour (even though smoking is a repetitive behaviour!) I think way too much compared to others. Thinking too much (not necessarily anxiety, just a complex weird brain), is a sure fire way to think also of the thoughts that can defeat you, but on a plus side, I'm excellent at problem solving.

All I can say is, don't knock any method until you have tried it, and I've tried every method out there (except teamwork which I believe would be the most successful).
 
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I think what holds smokers back from quitting, is that usually your life is going to get somewhat worse, or numb, for quite a long period before it gets better. From people I have spoken to, about 6 months to a year. At the same time, they all say how much their life has improved. Still, that is a long time. I hate suffering, but then smoking is suffering at the same time, and I think how I wish I could be free from this vice every day (he says as he takes a vape on his ecig).

But I believe that there is no need to suffer such a long period of time. I certainly didn't suffer when I thought outside the box with my idea. And I think teamwork, and having a support network (people going through the same thing, on Day 15 together) should in theory be successful.

I think there must be a lot of Christians who smoke, it would be nice to have a Christian quitters network! At least we are on a certain level and understanding to each other in what our core beliefs are, although yes, mine are somewhat abstract to most! We are all unique, with our own unique issues, unique ways of dealing with things, unique experiences in life, unique fears, unique thought patterns, but under God, we are all the same under the hood.
 
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Actually, vapping is better than smoking. True, nicotine isn't good for us, but it's a drug used over a long period of time. What's bad are the carcinogens in the cigarette, and nicotine is not a carcinogen.

I can't help you on which kind of vap will work for you, but habit is as much a part of my addiction as the nicotine, so I needed one that looked and tasted like a real cigarette. Found one, unfortunately, it also doesn't feel like a cigarette. (They're heavier, and hard to suck in a nice first gulp. It seems I'm supposed to inhale 3-5 times before feeling like I get anything.) So, understand a bit about your habits as well as how your addiction works. Could you do one of those massive what-is-that vapors the kids are into, or does it have to act like a cig.

Strangely enough, the people who helped me to sort this stuff out were people who worked for a smoke shop. They know their products, and their products now include vapping.
 

Rosemaryx

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I started vaping 4 years ago when I stopped smoking, gave it up for 5 weeks but went back to vaping :rolleyes:...I vape menthol because it is the only one that works for me...I have not touched a cigarette or roll up in these past years...

I am not trying to say all is good, I believe I have swapped addiction for another, and I do ask God to help me stop...But I have had my lungs checked with the test they do, when I gave up smoking the machine came up that my levels were 56, now I am on vapur the machine reads I am a non smoker...

On the plus side also, I have not had one cough attack like I had when smoking, every year I would get a bad smokers cough in the winter...I smoked for 40+ years, and for now the vape is keeping me off the roll ups...My next move is to go on a lower level untill I am only vaping the flavour, but I pray one day to get free...xox...
 
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kaylagrl

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Send it to me in the e-mail.

You know G-d delivered me from dope when I was 18, now 45, but not smoking... I think He may want me to work for something by faith...funny, not haha funny, right....!?!

Thank you,

Mae

Thanks for the info. I was in too late last night to respond to your e-mail. Went to see Darkest Hour,which I highly recommend,really good movie. But my husband has something like this. It has juices that go with it so I assume its the same thing. He has cut way back on smoking but he's wanting to give it up. I feel bad because there's not much I can do to help.
 
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kaylagrl

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I think what holds smokers back from quitting, is that usually your life is going to get somewhat worse, or numb, for quite a long period before it gets better. From people I have spoken to, about 6 months to a year. At the same time, they all say how much their life has improved. Still, that is a long time. I hate suffering, but then smoking is suffering at the same time, and I think how I wish I could be free from this vice every day (he says as he takes a vape on his ecig).

But I believe that there is no need to suffer such a long period of time. I certainly didn't suffer when I thought outside the box with my idea. And I think teamwork, and having a support network (people going through the same thing, on Day 15 together) should in theory be successful.

I think there must be a lot of Christians who smoke, it would be nice to have a Christian quitters network! At least we are on a certain level and understanding to each other in what our core beliefs are, although yes, mine are somewhat abstract to most! We are all unique, with our own unique issues, unique ways of dealing with things, unique experiences in life, unique fears, unique thought patterns, but under God, we are all the same under the hood.
You might well be on to something there.Being a non-smoker I cannot understand why hubby needs a cig. just before he goes into a mall,or just after he eats. I didn't even grow up around smokers,so I've had a new appreciation,since I've met my hubby,of what smokers are suffering. I told him if he needs to have the house to himself when he's trying to quit I'll go to my parents. He thinks he'll be a bear.lol We'll see how it goes.
 
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Thanks for the info. I was in too late last night to respond to your e-mail. Went to see Darkest Hour,which I highly recommend,really good movie. But my husband has something like this. It has juices that go with it so I assume its the same thing. He has cut way back on smoking but he's wanting to give it up. I feel bad because there's not much I can do to help.
There is something you might be able to do, although it would cost a good bit of money, and test you're strength as much as his.

Find an island. Any island. Inhabited or not, but an island with no smoking products on it. Next summer, (because I am not mean lol), take a vacation with him on that island, and he can't bring tobacco of any kind, and he cannot get off the island. Stay there for 3-6 weeks. If he becomes what I think he might become, it's okay if you take a vacation from him for the middle weeks. Rumor has it the addiction part is over in 3-6 weeks. The habit, he'll have to deal with himself when he comes home.

John kept looking for something, and would laugh when he realized his ashtray wasn't there. But he had the ultimate smoker's vacation -- 7 months in the hospital and then the rehab center, so he really was a nonsmoker before he came home.

I really do think smoking rehab would work. Just put us somewhere that we can't sneak out of to go buy cigs for 1-3 months. And duck! Because we're going to miserable to be around. I'd do it, if I could.

This is a business idea for anyone who has a island or a piece of property with high walls, barbed wire and moats to keep the inmates in!
 
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kaylagrl

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There is something you might be able to do, although it would cost a good bit of money, and test you're strength as much as his.

Find an island. Any island. Inhabited or not, but an island with no smoking products on it. Next summer, (because I am not mean lol), take a vacation with him on that island, and he can't bring tobacco of any kind, and he cannot get off the island. Stay there for 3-6 weeks. If he becomes what I think he might become, it's okay if you take a vacation from him for the middle weeks. Rumor has it the addiction part is over in 3-6 weeks. The habit, he'll have to deal with himself when he comes home.

John kept looking for something, and would laugh when he realized his ashtray wasn't there. But he had the ultimate smoker's vacation -- 7 months in the hospital and then the rehab center, so he really was a nonsmoker before he came home.

I really do think smoking rehab would work. Just put us somewhere that we can't sneak out of to go buy cigs for 1-3 months. And duck! Because we're going to miserable to be around. I'd do it, if I could.

This is a business idea for anyone who has a island or a piece of property with high walls, barbed wire and moats to keep the inmates in!

Lol! I don't know about an island but I know some pretty out of the way places,being from Canada. I wish I could click my fingers and help him. My little 9 yr old nephew said he prays every night that his uncle would stop smoking. That made me bawl. I told hubby and I think it made him want to try give it up.
 
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Lol! I don't know about an island but I know some pretty out of the way places,being from Canada. I wish I could click my fingers and help him. My little 9 yr old nephew said he prays every night that his uncle would stop smoking. That made me bawl. I told hubby and I think it made him want to try give it up.
My dream island is in Eagle Lake, Tichborne, ON. It has no lodging, but I'd be sharing it with a water moccasins. (I saw the same snake years apart, so have no idea how long they do live with no predators bothering them.) Can't swim that far. Can't climb the cliff behind it. Just give me a tent, a shovel to dig a hole, lots of Deep Woods Off, and food to live on, and I will hate you for several weeks and thank you for life.

Canada wildness sounds perfect. lol
 

lightbearer

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My prayer for you is this. Whatever it takes for you to quit GOD would put this in your life.

Vaping is not good either. Please do not to replace one bad habit with another. The LORD will take the desire from you if you let HIM. He is faithful and will not tempt you above that which you are able to bear but with the temptation give you a way to get through it. For HE has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness. Amen.
 

mcubed

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Actually, vapping is better than smoking. True, nicotine isn't good for us, but it's a drug used over a long period of time. What's bad are the carcinogens in the cigarette, and nicotine is not a carcinogen.

I can't help you on which kind of vap will work for you, but habit is as much a part of my addiction as the nicotine, so I needed one that looked and tasted like a real cigarette. Found one, unfortunately, it also doesn't feel like a cigarette. (They're heavier, and hard to suck in a nice first gulp. It seems I'm supposed to inhale 3-5 times before feeling like I get anything.) So, understand a bit about your habits as well as how your addiction works. Could you do one of those massive what-is-that vapors the kids are into, or does it have to act like a cig.

Strangely enough, the people who helped me to sort this stuff out were people who worked for a smoke shop. They know their products, and their products now include vapping.

This helps me a lot. In true addic form I bought "blue" once about 5 years ago" because I did not get that "feel" right away I throw it away and never tried again. Thank you.
 

mcubed

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My prayer for you is this. Whatever it takes for you to quit GOD would put this in your life.

Vaping is not good either. Please do not to replace one bad habit with another. The LORD will take the desire from you if you let HIM. He is faithful and will not tempt you above that which you are able to bear but with the temptation give you a way to get through it. For HE has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness. Amen.

Amen. I am in agree with you, because to be honest I do not want to stop smoking just do what I have to do for surgery than smoke again. But we Know Dad, He is always full of surprises even with our best well made plans.
 
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having many precious, talented, lovely, loving 'friends' 'DIE' from smoking, which 'I' started
at the age of 13', but was convicted to stop after I had my first child and couldn't climb up
a stair way at 23yr's old without gasping for breath, I just 'threw them away...and to boot,
I was 'carnal'... go figure?!?!

it's a satanic-addiction, it's just satan wanting us to end our lives early and have our LOVED ones
suffer right along with us as victims, which usually doesn't seem to bother us enough to QUIT?!?!...
can you figure this out???

really, you have to ask yourself, just what does LOVE mean to you? and how can one sacrifice
the ones that they claim to LOVE and KILL them at the same time?!?!?
is this Jesus' Love?!?!? if you think that it is, please, don't claim this, as it is a lie!
HE, Jesus will give you the power to BREAK this horrendous bondage, if you are truly
willing to 'join with Him in His Gift of Over-Coming...it's truly, just a decision...
we both speak from first hand experience...
 
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Hi there,
My brother smokes too much each day. I tried almost everything, nothing helped. I've looked through thousands of pages on the Internet. He doesn't agree to go to the doctor and receive some help with this addiction. I was reading articles on VapingDaily. There is so many information. I've already started thinking about proposing him to try vaping. Some people say that such an approach helps people quit smoking.
I was also searching for some rehabs centers. Found this site https://addictionresource.com/alcohol/treatment/inpatient/
Would be happy for some help. I feel helpless. :rolleyes: