ARE YOUR FRIENDS FRIENDS OF GOD? (Video)

Yeah asking about religious beliefs has set my foot in my mouth so to speak many times,best to tread carefully.

IIRC I answered you sufficiently on your other post sister. Believe me, I've read everything you've written on these issues, so no need to guess that I didn't understand it. I understand everything you're trying to convey but see you as in error on several issues.

What I want you to see in that thread is you really do not show a true understanding of what an apostate is. I explained to you there an apostate is not a Christian. You simply overlooked these glaring errors you've made and just carry on without correcting yourself Biblically.

Do you think you could perhaps slow down in your misplaced zeal and use accurate Biblical language and descriptions and accept correction? I answered your OP over there at length, answering each and every point you made and received nothing substantial in response from you. Basically it was ignored and you blew it off.

Take time to understand your position on calling Christians apostate as being unbiblical. Could you correct that so we can continue in Biblical dialog based on said correction to your understanding? Either that or you're just wasting our time.

Actually the majority of your time is spent condemning others as lost, that, and you just contradicted yourself up above. Anyone can see this. I don't say it to condemn, but in hope that you might change your mind and actually see it for yourself.

You've called Christians apostate in another thread. Now this thread is doing the same type of thing, you're predetermining who is lost/saved/apostate &c. You expect that the lost should act as if saved in behavior, and if so it's all good, then we can be their friends. It is how you spend your time sister and shows the basis of your position.

Actually, I'm reiterating what the Scriptures teach about the unsaved, the saved and those who fall away from their faith after being saved. I'm not "predetermining" anything. Either we understand what the Scriptures teach about these things or we do not. (Not all unsaved people are "lost", by the way. Some are lost sheep and some are goats. The goats are not lost. God knows who is who. My business is not with the goats but with the sheep, as I've explained already. You're still confused, apparently.)

If you really believe that I want unsaved people to act like Christians, you obviously don't understand my posts. Others understand them. You do not. That is something only God can fix. I've addressed this particular issue (about sheep and goats and apostate Christians) enough with you.

Perhaps in your objective to correct, condemn and talk down to others, it is a way of God showing you that you need to be corrected?

Your presumption/judgment of my objective and your perception of what I am doing (talking down to others) are incorrect. If anyone is condemned by my posts it is by their own conscience and/or the Holy Spirit, and the word of God, not by me.

Keep in mind dear sister what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 5:9-10. He didn't instruct us to not associate (keep company) with the lost who behave in wicked sin, but not to associate with any professing believer who lives this way. Do you accept or reject this plain truth?

Both of these were addressed in the video. The fact that you think I confused the two shows that you either didn't pay close enough attention to the video or that you misunderstood---or deliberately overlooked---what I said.

We can associate with the lost and sinful. No, I didn't say "hang out" with them, no, I didn't say "partake in their sins," no, I didn't say "compromise our walk" or anything of the sort. I used a Biblical description and allowance, Biblical language so please do not go extreme here and turn it into something not said.

You're basically repeating what I said in the video.

(I perceive that your misperception of my motives is impairing your ability to hear what I actually say. You hear things that aren't being said---and which others are not hearing---and don't notice or understand what is actually being said---which others do. This again is something only God can fix.)

Since this Biblical mandate is adverse to the gist of your OP, will you seek God to correct you here and accept his correction?

That wasn't the gist of the video; you just didn't understand the message. There's nothing for me to correct.

Your posts on the 31 Signs You Might Be Apostate thread were either irrelevant, foolish, contentious, or erroneous; that was my reason for not responding to them.

I just watched your video in its entirety and thought that you did an amazing job in getting across your valid point. In my own case I have found that as I have grown spiritually there are fewer people that I would consider being friends with. There are times that this world can seem like a very lonely place but we always have a friend in Jesus.

But of course. You still don't understand what an apostate is, and you have much error in your teaching. You've taught in your video that the lost should act like sheep, and you still falsely teach that an apostate is a Christian.

Any person who doesn't like what you falsely teach is just "rejecting God" and "only God can fix them." We get it.

No, they either know the truth about those things which are in fact true or they don't. "Liking" what I share has nothing to do with it.

My response was none of the above. I'd dare say that several saw your OP as such, so if you see any responses that seem similar it is only a reflection of your conscience concerning your OP.

With all your unChristian ad hominem aside, you cannot answer and will not receive any reproof or instruction. I also offered good material on your unBiblical thread for the benefit of others.

Let me ask, since it is the elephant in the room, do you see anyone else, other than yourself, as right with God, or saved? You get why I am asking this question, correct?

In addition you're bearing false witness and being disingenuous that others understood you and by saying I do not. No need to belittle others, don't you think you've done this enough?

Now, again, there is no such thing as an apostate Christian. Please prove from Scripture there is such a thing? Actually use your Bible, maybe? In all your diatribes here (and you're the one announcing your positions) you rarely use any Scripture, thus your conclusions are merely your opinion and are therefore subjective. There is no authority in your opinions or words they are just ramblings presupposing yourself to be correct without any Scriptural backing.



Why bother? It is an attempt to correct your error. Would you rather all just bow to your OP and those who only agree respond?

It's your objective also, the reason you continue to post is because you believe nearly everyone else is wrong, but you, of course are right. "Christians" are a bunch of apostates according to you, you slam them and then prop yourself up in judgment over them. If they disagree they are bothering to respond -- in other words you cannot handle criticism and being shown you just may be wrong.

Thanks be to God that Jesus is a friend of sinners. You see yourself as above this in your sectarian religion and go around slamming believers by forcing them into whatever mold you wish them to be in, and also slamming lost people.

May God bless all those who have friends in the world who are lost, yet are not friends of the world. You conflate the two unfortunately.

Lastly, you responded to my statement here:


With this:

Dear sister, this may be what you think you said in your video, but it is not what you said, nor is it how you came across. Again, you hardly ever use Scripture. Please start using your bible and lose your ad hominem towards all others.

Could you, asking again, show from Scripture than an apostate is a believer, and also start actually using Scripture?

Also, my alluding to "we get you" is concerning several responses in your threads where several have disagreed with your entire premise.

Now, lastly, this thing about the motives of your heart being judged by myself, first take a look at each of your OP's that are designed with that exact objective in mind towards others. You see this, correct? Or, do you deny this as well? The point is you are the person who is against others, that much is apparent.

No need to be sanctimonious, your motives and condemnation of others is readily witnessed here. I would really appreciate it if you'd use Bible to make your point, and prove from Bible that apostates are Christians. So far you've been dodging this!

Now, I did enjoy your video where you sing about loving and caring for others. You have a nice voice!

That's sad, really, that you have few friends, if any outside of Christianity. We should have friends who are lost, we are not to isolate ourselves from the world. I have several that are lost that I consider friends and am friendly to.

How is it "growing spiritually" when we become isolated from the lost and have no real lost friends to influence?

I think many spend too much time online, don't get out, and that the majority of their "christian life" is spent in a forum.

What do you see in the video that is valid and is Christianity? I'd like to hear exactly what she said that makes you feel it was valid.