Question about contemplation room at work

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Miri

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I work for the civil service, there is about 100 staff in the building, maybe 4 Muslims.

One of them likes to pray at work so he disappears a few times a day takes a mat
and usually finds space up among the filing cabinets on another floor.

We have a staff suggestion forum and a while back it was suggested a room better suited for
this. So in the interests of politician correctness and equality etc and to show they are a good
employer (despite us being over worked, under paid :p), they agreed.

Only in the interests of equity they had to make it a multi faith, or even non faith room.

So over the last few weeks, workmen have been in, painters, carpet people, plasters,
plumbers, electrician ect. Turning what was a small storage room full of junk into a
“contemplation room.”


Any one can use it at any time providing they are clocked out. While it’s called a
“contemplation” room no one has actually specified what it is to be used for as they don’t
want to exclude anyone from using it.

It has this really strange foot wash thingy in it which looks like a cross between
half a bath and a large bidet but it’s on the floor with a shower style curtain
around it. I assume it’s for washing hands feet etc.

Plus a coffee table and two comfy chairs. There are no symbols on the walls pictures etc.

The bidet bath thingy looks a bit like this but bigger.


See next post.

 
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Miri

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Anyway my question. Lol

As a Christian would you use it?

What if you went in for a quiet moment and there was another person in their praying to
Allah or washing their whatever!

As a Christian I obviously feel I can pray anywhere at any time in any pose.
I have occasionally dashed to the toilets at work and said a quick “lord give me
strength” kind of prayer!

I feel kindof strange about the whole concept of a “contemplation” room at work.

Maybe others might use it as a chill out room for 10 mins or at lunch break I don’t
know. But the impression around the building is other people are rather surprised and
bemused by the whole idea, but won’t say anything for or against it.

We all know that really it’s just for one person!


But part of me wonders if maybe I could use it on the odd occasion, but would I
actually want to, if you know what I mean. In the sense of little old me having a quiet
moment in one corner while someone is washing their feet and praying to Allah
in the other.

I suspect that only this one person will end up using it, but wow it seems like rather a
lot of time, effort and money spent on one person almost as if he has received a special
work bonus.


So as a christian would you use it. Would it be a good witness to use it do you think.

This is all very strange to me I have to say.
 

Demi777

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It looks like a...pee thingy
No i wouldnt use it lol
 

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Hi Miri, It is things like this that can throw me into a rant. The blatant hypocrisy of our governments is simply astounding. So to avoid a long narrative (about what we all know), I will keep it simple. I thank God every day for being blessed with my "country" way of life and a faith that allows me to stop any time and anywhere I feel like praying to the one true God, whom I can worship alone or with as many people I wish to pray with. And I don't need any "bidet' thingy" on the floor. No curtains or rugs.....no wondering where my God is so I can face the right direction to pray to Him. I simply need to know my God loves me and I love Him, and I'm going to Heaven some glorious day to dwell with Him forever...AMEN. And steer clear of that "bidet" until you know what it's for (lol). God bless you in your service.....................Stanley
 
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Miri

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Hi Miri, It is things like this that can throw me into a rant. The blatant hypocrisy of our governments is simply astounding. So to avoid a long narrative (about what we all know), I will keep it simple. I thank God every day for being blessed with my "country" way of life and a faith that allows me to stop any time and anywhere I feel like praying to the one true God, whom I can worship alone or with as many people I wish to pray with. And I don't need any "bidet' thingy" on the floor. No curtains or rugs.....no wondering where my God is so I can face the right direction to pray to Him. I simply need to know my God loves me and I love Him, and I'm going to Heaven some glorious day to dwell with Him forever...AMEN. And steer clear of that "bidet" until you know what it's for (lol). God bless you in your service.....................Stanley

I’m sooooooo glad we don’t use a bidet thingy too. Lol

Best to look if anything, is to look up.
 
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I would totally use that room to pray and meditate. idc if there's muslims, hindus, wiccans, w/e in there too. Your time with God is your time with God and their time with their god(s) is their time with their god(s). There's nothing scary or hypocritical about praying to God in the presence of other people who follow other faiths. What a great idea! However, I would only use the weird toilet for number 2 if I REALLY needed to. That design looks awful and uncomfortable to sit on. That would totally be my go-to for number 1 though.
 
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Miri

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I would totally use that room to pray and meditate. idc if there's muslims, hindus, wiccans, w/e in there too. Your time with God is your time with God and their time with their god(s) is their time with their god(s). There's nothing scary or hypocritical about praying to God in the presence of other people who follow other faiths. What a great idea! However, I would only use the weird toilet for number 2 if I REALLY needed to. That design looks awful and uncomfortable to sit on. That would totally be my go-to for number 1 though.

Its not actually a toilet, it’s for the Muslims to ceremonially wash their hands and feet
before prayer. Lol strange that isn’t it, that’s its suppose to be for everyone but they
have put that in, although I don’t know if Hindus, seeks (not sure how to spell that) require
foot washing as well.

Plus theres no well, no toilet roll. :eek:
 
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Miri

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Miri, you do what you think is right. The Holy Spirit will guide you in everything you do. :cool:


I dont know its just a bit strange to me.

We use to have a quiet/prayer room at church, an amazing place so tranquil, full of bibles,
scripture on the walls, cusions, chairs, a book where people wrote down their thoughts.
That place was amazing you could feel the presence of God when you walked in.

Our new church building still has a floor to redevelope so it doesn’t have a specific prayer
room, but the entire building is like a giant prayer room, it’s so peaceful and full of God.

Whereas you walk in that room at work and it’s just full of giant bidet. Lol

I don’t think I need a special room at work to pray in specifically, sometimes it might be
nice to go somewhere to chill for 10 minutes, but then walking in on a staff member
washing their feet praying to allah.......

But then if no one else uses it, then it will end up being just for the Muslims, which
is really what it was all along! We all know that really.

But then part part of me thinks, ya know why not use it too. Maybe even take a bible
and spend break times there. But then I kindof think na, it’s a bit strange! Can you
imagine me with a bible and a bare foot guy praying to Allah.

Maybe I need to you know, actually work when I’m at work that’s what I’m getting paid
for.
 
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I dont know its just a bit strange to me.

We use to have a quiet/prayer room at church, an amazing place so tranquil, full of bibles,
scripture on the walls, cusions, chairs, a book where people wrote down their thoughts.
That place was amazing you could feel the presence of God when you walked in.

Our new church building still has a floor to redevelope so it doesn’t have a specific prayer
room, but the entire building is like a giant prayer room, it’s so peaceful and full of God.

Whereas you walk in that room at work and it’s just full of giant bidet. Lol

I don’t think I need a special room at work to pray in specifically, sometimes it might be
nice to go somewhere to chill for 10 minutes, but then walking in on a staff member
washing their feet praying to allah.......

But then if no one else uses it, then it will end up being just for the Muslims, which
is really what it was all along! We all know that really.

But then part part of me thinks, ya know why not use it too. Maybe even take a bible
and spend break times there. But then I kindof think na, it’s a bit strange! Can you
imagine me with a bible and a bare foot guy praying to Allah.

Maybe I need to you know, actually work when I’m at work that’s what I’m getting paid
for.
Lol why do you think it's so weird being in the same room with a Muslim praying? They don't get naked or anything. They just get on their knees and put their heads to the floor. God is everywhere all the time, inside and outside of you, flowing through everything. He exists in that little political correctness room just as much as He exists in your church. Even though that Muslim guy isn't following Jesus, he's still seeking for the same thing that we're seeking. EVERY adherent to just about any major religion is seeking that pull toward the spiritual. We all feel it but interpret what it means differently. I don't feel that there is anything awkward or weird about that. You claim that toilet and use that room if you want to! Just don't look the Muslim guy in the eyes if he's going number 2. I feel that would make your time in the room together awkward.

It's official, Miri is now one of my favs on this forum haha.
 
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Miri

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Lol why do you think it's so weird being in the same room with a Muslim praying? They don't get naked or anything. They just get on their knees and put their heads to the floor. God is everywhere all the time, inside and outside of you, flowing through everything. He exists in that little political correctness room just as much as He exists in your church. Even though that Muslim guy isn't following Jesus, he's still seeking for the same thing that we're seeking. EVERY adherent to just about any major religion is seeking that pull toward the spiritual. We all feel it but interpret what it means differently. I don't feel that there is anything awkward or weird about that. You claim that toilet and use that room if you want to! Just don't look the Muslim guy in the eyes if he's going number 2. I feel that would make your time in the room together awkward.

It's official, Miri is now one of my favs on this forum haha.

What can I say, middle aged Brits tend to be a bit nuts. Lol :p
 
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I don't think I would use it either. But you do what you feel is right. There may be a time in the middle of an oddball day that the Lord picks you up and you go right in and you say your prayers. Rather than going to the restroom. Just leave it open for a possibility. At least it's there should you need it. But it is a bit odd, and that does look like a pee pee thing. LOL. Even though we know it isn't.
 

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I think the most important thing to do
is to make use of this contemplation room from time to time.

1: to show that the room is not exclusively for just one person
2: to demonstrate that Christians have prayer time as well
- equal rights for all faiths
3: you may be able to witness to a Muslim person and share
your joy in the Lord
4: If a Muslim complains about sharing the room remind them
and management that the U.K. is now a multicultural & multifaith
society - therefore your rights are equal to others.
 
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Miri

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I think the most important thing to do
is to make use of this contemplation room from time to time.

1: to show that the room is not exclusively for just one person
2: to demonstrate that Christians have prayer time as well
- equal rights for all faiths
3: you may be able to witness to a Muslim person and share
your joy in the Lord
4: If a Muslim complains about sharing the room remind them
and management that the U.K. is now a multicultural & multifaith
society - therefore your rights are equal to others.

Unfortunately it’s not possible to witness to people in the workplace unless
they actually ask you. In the civil service people have been fired for “forcing”
their unwanted religious beliefs on others. It’s seen as bullying or discriminating for not
accepting the beliefs of other religions.

Same with doctors and nurses, one nurse was sacked for praying with a muslim
patient, that kind of thing.
 
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I work for the civil service, there is about 100 staff in the building, maybe 4 Muslims.

One of them likes to pray at work so he disappears a few times a day takes a mat
and usually finds space up among the filing cabinets on another floor.

We have a staff suggestion forum and a while back it was suggested a room better suited for
this. So in the interests of politician correctness and equality etc and to show they are a good
employer (despite us being over worked, under paid :p), they agreed.

Only in the interests of equity they had to make it a multi faith, or even non faith room.

So over the last few weeks, workmen have been in, painters, carpet people, plasters,
plumbers, electrician ect. Turning what was a small storage room full of junk into a
“contemplation room.”


Any one can use it at any time providing they are clocked out. While it’s called a
“contemplation” room no one has actually specified what it is to be used for as they don’t
want to exclude anyone from using it.

It has this really strange foot wash thingy in it which looks like a cross between
half a bath and a large bidet but it’s on the floor with a shower style curtain
around it. I assume it’s for washing hands feet etc.

Plus a coffee table and two comfy chairs. There are no symbols on the walls pictures etc.

The bidet bath thingy looks a bit like this but bigger.


See next post.

Nosy me is now curious HOW to use that thing. Looks downright uncomfortable for anything but a men's urinal.

And PI me (politically-incorrect me), yes, I think I would use the room. It's been a while since I've worked, but I distinctly remember being completely frazzled and praying for help. Remembering those times when I felt frazzled, was praying, and yet being interrupted (even with quick one-line prayers) by even more stuff piling up on me, I can see legitimate purpose for going to a prayer closet. And, I'm chuckling at imagined telling my bosses, to stop talking, because I really need to go to the "contemplation room" right now. Imagine! They can't report me for that one.

AND, the funniest part of the images I have going on in my brain are remembering finding out I have to get 6 hours of work done by 3 PM, right as I'm heading out to lunch at noontime. Hmmmm, I really did pray while I grabbed my pile of paperwork to take it to a little restaurant I'd sequester myself in, so I could work without interruption after wolfing down lunch. And since it's noon, who else would be in that "contemplation room" with me? I wonder how he would take a woman who isn't taking off her shoes to pray.

Which would bother him more shoes still on or woman?
 
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Susanna

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Nosy me is now curious HOW to use that thing. Looks downright uncomfortable for anything but a men's urinal.

And PI me (politically-incorrect me), yes, I think I would use the room. It's been a while since I've worked, but I distinctly remember being completely frazzled and praying for help. Remembering those times when I felt frazzled, was praying, and yet being interrupted (even with quick one-line prayers) by even more stuff piling up on me, I can see legitimate purpose for going to a prayer closet. And, I'm chuckling at imagined telling my bosses, to stop talking, because I really need to go to the "contemplation room" right now. Imagine! They can't report me for that one.

AND, the funniest part of the images I have going on in my brain are remembering finding out I have to get 6 hours of work done by 3 PM, right as I'm heading out to lunch at noontime. Hmmmm, I really did pray while I grabbed my pile of paperwork to take it to a little restaurant I'd sequester myself in, so I could work without interruption after wolfing down lunch. And since it's noon, who else would be in that "contemplation room" with me? I wonder how he would take a woman who isn't taking off her shoes to pray.

Which would bother him more shoes still on or woman?
Then you should be using 6" stillettos, they can be a migthy weapon in more than one way...lol.
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Haha great thread Miri.

I always wondered about those "multi faith" rooms in hospitals and airports (I'm concerned as to why we are encouraged to pray before a flight!) and have on occasion been tempted to take a peek but I know they would be full of Muslims and possibly Seiks and Hindu's too. I share your hesitance in praying amongst them.
 

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Miri, you provided your own answer to your dilemma:
I dont know its just a bit strange to me.
If it does not feel right, don't do it. I commuted to San Francisco Civic Center for a couple of years. I would go outside to eat lunch and I could always pray there. I hope I helped. :cool:
 

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Unfortunately it’s not possible to witness to people in the workplace unless
they actually ask you. In the civil service people have been fired for “forcing”
their unwanted religious beliefs on others. It’s seen as bullying or discriminating for not
accepting the beliefs of other religions.
Same with doctors and nurses, one nurse was sacked for praying with a muslim
patient, that kind of thing.
Yes we have the same political correctness down under
It is dangerous to be traditional, conservative, non-alien, home grown,
Bible reading, married heterosexual of one gender.

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