God's Plan For Prosperity

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FlyingDove

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"THE LAW OF RECIPROCITY"

There is a universal law of divine reciprocity. You give; God gives in return.

When you plant a seed, the ground yields a harvest. That is a reciprocal relationship. The ground can only give to you as you give to the ground.

You put money in the bank, and the bank returns interest. That is reciprocity, no investment, no return.

Yet, many expect something for nothing, when it comes to the things of God. They know that it does not work that way in the world system. Yet, many expect God to send them something when they have not invested into the Kingdom of God.

If you're not investing your time, talent, or finances. Why would someone think they deserve anything? How can you expect to get something when you haven't planted any seed?

How can you expect God to honour your desire when you have not honoured HIS Plan for peosperity = GIVING?

Prosperity begins with investment: When we give to God, then God can give to us!

Philippians 4:
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
(NOTE: The Philippians partnered financially with other Believers)

16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
(NOTE: Although thankful for thier financial support. Paul is more happy for the rewards they will receive)

Psalms 41:
1 (A Psalm of David.) Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.

2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies.

Reciprocity Scripture:
In God's economy when you give you can expect a return.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Matt 13:8 Jesus said; seed sowing (giving) produces fruit (a return): sometimes 30 fold, sometimes 60 fold, sometimes 100 fold. Try getting that kind of return from your your Bank.

Maybe, you aren't in the position/place to give money. You can still give of your time or talents to help someone in need.

In the end our heavenly rewards won't be based on much we have. But, how much we gave. Jesus our example: GAVE ALL!.
 
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SpoonJuly

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#2
"THE LAW OF RECIPROCITY"

There is a universal law of divine reciprocity. You give; God gives in return.

When you plant a seed, the ground yields a harvest. That is a reciprocal relationship. The ground can only give to you as you give to the ground.

You put money in the bank, and the bank returns interest. That is reciprocity, no investment, no return.

Yet, many expect something for nothing, when it comes to the things of God. They know that it does not work that way in the world system. Yet, many expect God to send them something when they have not invested into the Kingdom of God.

If you're not investing your time, talent, or finances. Why would someone think they deserve anything? How can you expect to get something when you haven't planted any seed?

How can you expect God to honour your desire when you have not honoured HIS Plan for peosperity = GIVING?

Prosperity begins with investment: When we give to God, then God can give to us!

Philippians 4:
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
(NOTE: The Philippians partnered financially with other Believers)

16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
(NOTE: Although thankful for thier financial support. Paul is more happy for the rewards they will receive)

Psalms 41:
1 (A Psalm of David.) Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.

2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies.

Reciprocity Scripture:
In God's economy when you give you can expect a return.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Matt 13:8 Jesus said; seed sowing (giving) produces fruit (a return): sometimes 30 fold, sometimes 60 fold, sometimes 100 fold. Try getting that kind of return from your your Bank.

Maybe, you aren't in the position/place to give money. You can still give of your time or talents to help someone in need.

In the end our heavenly rewards won't be based on much we have. But, how much we gave. Jesus our example: GAVE ALL!.
Well if you are giving to receive a return, you are giving for the wrong reason.
 

FlyingDove

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#3
The post gave these supporting scripture:

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Matt 13:8 Jesus said; seed sowing (giving) produces fruit (a return): sometimes 30 fold, sometimes 60 fold, sometimes 100 fold. Try getting that kind of return from your your Bank.

SpoonJuly, Your reply implies you don't agree with scripture. Here are a couple more that may help:

Matt 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
(NOTE: Peter wants to know: WHAT AM I GOING TO GET)

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(NOTE: Jesus doesn't condemn or chastise Peter for asking. Jesus tells Peter his reciprocal REWARD will be HUGH)

Rev 22:12 Jesus said, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
(NOTE: Jesus taught the LAW OF RECIPROCITY)
 

BenFTW

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Well if you are giving to receive a return, you are giving for the wrong reason.
Obviously when you give you see the fruits of your generosity and stewardship. It is joyous. However, why shouldn't we expect to have a return when God's word declares that we will have a return? In fact, you should give in order to obtain, for the sake of being able to give more. This is good stewardship, it is kingdom mindedness. To be blessed in order to be a blessing.

Once a person sees the law of reciprocity at work this would only encourage them to sow even more bountifully, so that they may reap and have the means to support different aspects of God's plans in the Earth (ministries, feeding the poor, etc).

I think to give in order to obtain is a righteous cause, because it is only an exponential growth of one's own finances to further aid the Kingdom. This is a mindset of stewardship and of handling one's talents (if you will) responsibly.
 

Cee

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Jesus endured the cross for the joy set in front of Him. He knew what He going to get. And He endured to receive it.
 

Lynx

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Well if you are giving to receive a return, you are giving for the wrong reason.
Though it might have been more clearly stated, I have to agree with this. Remember, the Bible says God loves a cheerful giver.

Grudging giver: "Christians are supposed to give, so I guess I gotta give something."
Greedy giver: "If I give I will get more, and I wanna, so I gotta give. (Now God, you better ante up!)"
Cheerful giver: "There is a need, I have the resources and I want to help somebody."

Only the cheerful giver will keep giving. The grudging giver will eventually find excuses to not give. The greedy giver will soon stop giving when he doesn't get from God what he thinks he ought to be getting. (Protip: God's returns are not always in cash.) The cheerful giver will see his efforts benefiting those around him and himself, and God giving the increase in all areas of his life - and as God gives increase, a cheerful giver will find more resources with which to help people, which will gladden the heart of a true cheerful giver.
 

Blain

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I do understand the point of the op I mean you cannot hope to reap a harvest if you don't put some effort into it, but I also do understand the point of giving but out of the right reason. If one gives simply to receive they are doing it for the wrong reason,God God gave us salvation knowing we could never hope to pay him back he didn't do it to receive anything back.
 

Cee

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The issue with not expecting a return is that it removes faith.

Hope is a confident expectation, but I do agree that God's returns are not always physical. Nor would I want them to be.

But we do need to deal with this issue of not allowing people to have faith in a good God. Because faith is what pleases Him.

So if God is not our Provider, who is? If God doesn't bless us and provide for us, then the only person left is ourselves. It's our hard work, our education, our knowledge, our insight, etc. etc. Now suddenly I earned everything I have so why would I give it away? And this also doesn't give God glory He is due.

God IS my Provider, thus I believe it is all from Him, and I give as He leads me.

And to be honest, I am greatly blessed. And I love being able to bless others.
 

Joidevivre

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"There is a universal law of divine reciprocity. You give; God gives in return."

There is another dimension - when God gives prosperity from His mercy - not because someone has earned it by giving.

To the person who believes that with God, they will lack no good thing, and they will be blessed beyond measure, their faith counts for a lot.

To the person who does not believe that God cares, when they receive unexpected and undeserved prosperity, they are overcome with how much love He has poured out upon them.
 

RickyZ

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I come at this from a different angle. One doesn't give with the expectation of receiving. But if one is not receiving, it might be an indication that they need to give more.
 

Lynx

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Yeah, what Ricky said.
 
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#12
"THE LAW OF RECIPROCITY"

There is a universal law of divine reciprocity. You give; God gives in return.

When you plant a seed, the ground yields a harvest. That is a reciprocal relationship. The ground can only give to you as you give to the ground.

You put money in the bank, and the bank returns interest. That is reciprocity, no investment, no return.

Yet, many expect something for nothing, when it comes to the things of God. They know that it does not work that way in the world system. Yet, many expect God to send them something when they have not invested into the Kingdom of God.

If you're not investing your time, talent, or finances. Why would someone think they deserve anything? How can you expect to get something when you haven't planted any seed?

How can you expect God to honour your desire when you have not honoured HIS Plan for peosperity = GIVING?

Prosperity begins with investment: When we give to God, then God can give to us!

Philippians 4:
15 Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only.
(NOTE: The Philippians partnered financially with other Believers)

16 For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity.

17 Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account.
(NOTE: Although thankful for thier financial support. Paul is more happy for the rewards they will receive)

Psalms 41:
1 (A Psalm of David.) Blessed is he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.

2 The LORD will preserve him, and keep him alive; and he shall be blessed upon the earth: and thou wilt not deliver him unto the will of his enemies.

Reciprocity Scripture:
In God's economy when you give you can expect a return.

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Matt 13:8 Jesus said; seed sowing (giving) produces fruit (a return): sometimes 30 fold, sometimes 60 fold, sometimes 100 fold. Try getting that kind of return from your your Bank.

Maybe, you aren't in the position/place to give money. You can still give of your time or talents to help someone in need.

In the end our heavenly rewards won't be based on much we have. But, how much we gave. Jesus our example: GAVE ALL!.
No, it is not a universal law. It's not God's law. It is nothing short of New Age mysticism! It's pure crap bolstered in the last half century.

Stop following this crap, because it really is nothing but crap. Replacing God with Man.
 
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The post gave these supporting scripture:

Luke 6:38 Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.

2 Corinthians 9:6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Matt 13:8 Jesus said; seed sowing (giving) produces fruit (a return): sometimes 30 fold, sometimes 60 fold, sometimes 100 fold. Try getting that kind of return from your your Bank.

SpoonJuly, Your reply implies you don't agree with scripture. Here are a couple more that may help:

Matt 19:27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
(NOTE: Peter wants to know: WHAT AM I GOING TO GET)

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
(NOTE: Jesus doesn't condemn or chastise Peter for asking. Jesus tells Peter his reciprocal REWARD will be HUGH)

Rev 22:12 Jesus said, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
(NOTE: Jesus taught the LAW OF RECIPROCITY)
And the "support" is snippets from here and there in the Bible, all taken out of context because context itself would prove the opposite! That's what New Age crap does.

Jesus taught about his Father only!
 
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Yes, Father knows our hearts and does really back-up what He says He will do
to a cheerful and un-bound 'giver'!!! this is Biblical and has many examples
to back up this Holy, Lovely, gift...