Your views on Marijuana

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Baruch

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#26
I would suggest checking out the site: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/ to see some of the popular marijuana myths debunked. Only myth they try to debunk on that site I have issue with is the one about using marijuana while pregnant. I would never advocate anyone use marijuana while pregnant.
That alone should give you precedent to suspect all other myth debunking at that site.

What amuses me is that a drug that was done away with for obviously racial and prejudicial reasons(and no scientific or societal reasons at all, except for those steeped in prejudice) is still banned today. What is also amusing is that marijuana is safer than alcohol and actual provides proven medicinal value, yet people are unwilling to legalize it.
Merryheart, Baptistrw, and I could testify to the reasons why, but let us approach this from your research point of view.

Has a sobriety test been done on a drunk person and a stoned one to say which is safer?

When one gets stoned, can they get even more stoned as a drunk person can before they pass out?

If marijuana is available for medicinal use, how many of those patients never tried any harder drugs? I mean, it is well known that one can get used to the effects of marijuana to the point that they can't get that same high as they used to. If used for pain, what keeps them from going to stronger drugs.. and in which case... if using the legal kinds for pain releivers, why use anything illegal then if they are eventually going to use legal but stronger pain relievers? Would the legal pain relievers take them on a longer path to the harder pain relievers in life? Would marijuana slow that path or speed it up?

I had a friend in high school that claimed he was using marijuana for medicinal purposes as his eye doctor prescribed it for him. He shares it(not with me),, and I saw him passing white powder in a small plastic bag at the cafeteria in school one time so I talked to him about it right then and there. I found out he was selling the stuff, and if he doesn't do it, somebody else will. The Lord had me say something to him, and I think I saw some grounds where he was deciding to stop with whatever that white powder was, but he continued on with the druglife throughout his life until a few years ago when I heard how much rockbottom he had hit in order for him to stop. Whethor that is currently true.. I know not.

So I would like to know the resources and the producers of these surveys and statistics that you are getting this research on. Have you done your research to see if they are connected to the drug underworld? Then again, maybe you may not want to do that kind of digging for an expose'.

People say marijuana should stay illegal because it would cause society to deteriorate if it was legalized, but it is the exact opposite. Society deteriorates because it is illegal. In every country where marijuana is legalized or where marijuana laws are lax crime rate is lower. In countries such as the Netherlands, illegal use of marijuana amongst teens even DECREASES once marijuana is legalized. It doesn't increase like people assume it would.
If marijuana has a tendency to cause this character trait to lose respect for authority, then cops that uses it will more than likely overlook some crime as well. This easy going attitude is certainly would lead to lax in judgment... partiality.. and apathy... thus less crime reported... from the victims as well.

Marijuana legalization would also stimulate the economy. not only through a marijuana market, but through the re-introduction of a hemp industry. Hemp was always a big source of economic benefit in the US from its start. George Washington even promoted the production of hemp, saying "Make the most you can of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere."
Then how could it not be as popular as tobacco is today? Did you research that? If you saw how tobacco took off in the world back then.. then how come hemp didn't?

Besides promoting economy, there is the issue of problems created due to the illegality of marijuana. The 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 8th amendment are violated due to the illegality of marijuana. One good example of this is civil asset forfeiture.
The way this point is being driven, I don't buy it. Sounds like hype to me. If one takes an issue and pursue one side of it, then it is more likely to be a campaign as if used in a debate format to prove their side on the issue than a well-balanced research paper on the subject of legalizing marijuana, showing the pros and cons of the issue. For all intents and purposes, marijuana could never have become illegal if well received even by George Washington so something is wrong. Something is missing. Something is way off that we are not really getting the whole picture.

I have to say that for a debate team format, you have a made a validating front for legalizing marijuana, but speaking from experience of how my brother dragged my parents down with him and how I have not seen NOT one beneficial user from the drug, I hope you lose your debate; no offense.
 
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1still_waters

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1 Peter 1:13 13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

1 Peter 5:8 8Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Be sober, not stoned.
 
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1still_waters

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#28
7(A) casting all your anxieties on him, because(B) he cares for you. 8(C) Be sober-minded;(D) be watchful. Your(E) adversary the devil(F) prowls around(G) like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. 9(H) Resist him,(I) firm in your faith, knowing that(J) the same kinds of suffering are being experienced by your brotherhood throughout the world.
 
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Zoeboy

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#30
I think smoking Marijuana is wrong no mattter if it was leagel or not God did not plan that it be smoked I think that it was put on this earth for it beauty not as a drug
 
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amorelife

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#31
I'm glad someone actually put the rest of that verse up there. It's sad when someone is trying to justify doing something illegal through a Bible verse.
 
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Aliciaforjesus

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#32
Hey all, im just interested to see what the christian community thinks of marijuana.

I'll put forth no opinions of my own for the time being and just leave you with this quote from the bible

Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth"

He gave all seed bearing plants for food,
Not for smoking!

Marijuana has been discovered to be good for anti-inflammatory meds.
But not smoking! It has a lot of med. value for some health problems!

Marijuana has tar and nicotine in it, and they say it's like smoking 10 cigs. when you smoke one joint.

If you think weed is not addictive your in denial.

God does not want you to be high on pot,
He wants you to be high on Him!

I have been addicted to many drugs, meth, pot, alcohol, I have tried them all.

Pot was one of the hardest to quit!
Smoking cigs. being the hardest!

I also think our government has caused a lot of confusion with our youth today!
For many years they have been teaching that pot is a gateway drug to bigger drugs!
Just say No to drugs!
Now the government wants to join with the drug dealers and make money!
I think it is sad, to think any one would think it to be ok!
Cigarettes companies and all the troubles with all the deaths and things cigs. cause should be looked at as an example set before us concerning Pot.


 
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Aliciaforjesus

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#33
What makes you think you will be able to afford the prices they are going to charge? There will still be drug dealers, just stronger laws for the dealer and illegal user!

Don't be foolish, it will not be like you think!

 
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sweetie36

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#34
Its Illegal........
I think that man kind has made it to were people get hooked on it.
Its not good for you. but if your sick I dont know if I agree that people should be able to smoke it ever if they are sick.
I want tp Obey God Commanments.........
 
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Groundhog

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#35
In terms of legalization, I'm a libertarian on this issue. I believe that if cigarettes are legal, alcohol is legal, caffeine is legal, etc, then marijuana ought to be legal as well. As for Christians using marijuana, it seems questionable at best, although I cannot speak with authority here, because I've never used the stuff. I guess the question is whether it is OK for Christians to use chemicals that can be harmful to our bodies, since after all, the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit (Rom. 12:1), and we should not do things to damage our own body and are to be self-controlled (which is why drunkenness is immoral). Is casual drinking that does not lead to drunkenness OK for a Christian to do for recreational purposes? Examples in the New Testament would lead me to think so. But is recreational use of marijuana equivalent at all?

As a final thought, "All things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial." 1 Cor. 10:23
 
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lil-rush

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#36
What makes you think you will be able to afford the prices they are going to charge? There will still be drug dealers, just stronger laws for the dealer and illegal user!

Don't be foolish, it will not be like you think!

I was actually responding to the comment "funny how one topic reveals what people believe." I wasn't sure what was being implied there.

And, just for the record, it doesn't much matter to me what the prices would be, since I wouldn't be using marijuana if it were legal.
 
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I smoked a loooooot of it when I was younger. It makes u stupid.
 
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youngartist

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#38
now, I didn't read what everyone else had to say because I didn't want an affect on my opinion....From personal experience, not me but my family...I am completely against it...God said not to harm your vessel or to corrupt it, he said to keep it clean of all harmful things.
My mom has smoked marijuana for MANY years and has suffered from short term memory loss because of it...my three brothers are basicly brain dead because of it and just it...they can't answer any serious questions nor do they have the strength to do everyday tsks...they just lay on the couch like lifeless people.
I don't either believe that Marijuana is an herb...we dont season our foods with it, do we?
 
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lil-rush

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My mom has smoked marijuana for MANY years and has suffered from short term memory loss because of it...my three brothers are basicly brain dead because of it and just it...they can't answer any serious questions nor do they have the strength to do everyday tsks...they just lay on the couch like lifeless people.
I don't either believe that Marijuana is an herb...we dont season our foods with it, do we?
Just to clarify, what you are describing would be termed as "potheads." Potheads would be the type of marijuana users who allow marijuana to rule their lives and cannot function correctly in society when they are using it.

Many marijuana users are not pot heads. That is not to diminish the severity and seriousness of the situation for those who are potheads, but it isn't fair to clump all marijuana users together with the extreme cases. That is like saying everyone who drinks is a drunk. Not everyone who drinks is a drunk. Likewise, not everyone who does marijuana is a pothead.


And *cough* marijuana users would beg to differ on that herb comment. They can season plenty of different foods with marijuana if they want to (and, no, not just brownies). Of course, it's illegal to season foods with marijuana, but it is possible. So, while it may not be a legal herb, it is still an herb of sorts.
 
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sweetie36

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#40
I know that everyone one has their own Opion on it.
But I know that it's Illegal so I dont do it..............

I feel Guilty for it, I have done it but its been awhile, you dont feel better afterwards.I wish I have never done it.
I have changed dont do it anymore wont do it any more I know its wrong,I knew it was then but I want to Obey God Commanments.