Forgiveness Question

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imachristian637789

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I'm a christian but I'm just wondering why believers still have to die after God has forgiven us since sin =death, but we have been forgiven of all our sins. Since God has required us to forgive others who wrong us and ask for our forgiveness & we're not to hold anything against them or punish them, but why does God seemingly do it?? What am I not understanding here? Just trying to understand this. Thanks.
 
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2mayday2

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I think I understand where you are confused. Sin does not EQUAL death. The PUNISHMENT FOR sin is death. Totally different. Think of sin as a wall between you and God. Now, if you die without asking God to take down the wall, then you get the punishment: death. And, what God means by that is that you will not be included in the group of people that get into heaven, and so the only other place is... well you get the picture...
 
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Ramon

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2mayday2 said:
I think I understand where you are confused. Sin does not EQUAL death. The PUNISHMENT FOR sin is death. Totally different. Think of sin as a wall between you and God. Now, if you die without asking God to take down the wall, then you get the punishment: death. And, what God means by that is that you will not be included in the group of people that get into heaven, and so the only other place is... well you get the picture...
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:):):):):) May Jesus bless you. You are a good friend.
 
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imachristian637789

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I meant the punishment for sin is death...so if we die we are still being punished. But if we are forgiven then why??
 
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dmdave17

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imachristian637789 said:
I meant the punishment for sin is death...so if we die we are still being punished. But if we are forgiven then why??
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I think you may be misconstruing the concept of death in this context. The death referred to as the "wages of sin" is eternal death. All of our earthly bodies must pass away, but the spiritual bodies of those of us who are saved will live forever. In 1 Corinthians, Paul wrote ...

"So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven." (1 Corinthians 15:42-47)


The reason for the death of our earthly bodies becomes clear when you consider that this world has existed much longer than the life span of any human being. If there were no physical death, the earth would be pretty crowded with believers. God addressed this issue early in Genesis when He realized that having mankind live hundreds of years was impractical. "Then the Lord said, 'My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.'” (Genesis 6:3)


Therefore, the death we experience is only temporary. Our spiritual bodies will live forever in the presence of the Lord.
 
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dmdave17 said:
I think you may be misconstruing the concept of death in this context. The death referred to as the "wages of sin" is eternal death. All of our earthly bodies must pass away, but the spiritual bodies of those of us who are saved will live forever. In 1 Corinthians, Paul wrote ...

"So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven." (1 Corinthians 15:42-47)


The reason for the death of our earthly bodies becomes clear when you consider that this world has existed much longer than the life span of any human being. If there were no physical death, the earth would be pretty crowded with believers. God addressed this issue early in Genesis when He realized that having mankind live hundreds of years was impractical. "Then the Lord said, 'My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.'” (Genesis 6:3)


Therefore, the death we experience is only temporary. Our spiritual bodies will live forever in the presence of the Lord.
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Great answer! :)
 
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Tobby17

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imachristian637789 said:
I'm a christian but I'm just wondering why believers still have to die after God has forgiven us since sin =death, but we have been forgiven of all our sins. Since God has required us to forgive others who wrong us and ask for our forgiveness & we're not to hold anything against them or punish them, but why does God seemingly do it?? What am I not understanding here? Just trying to understand this. Thanks.
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Someone posted a similar thread in bible discussion tonight. I guess

So where are you guys getting this question from?...lol
 
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Brandon777

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dmdave17 said:
Therefore, the death we experience is only temporary. Our spiritual bodies will live forever in the presence of the Lord.
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I learned something new. I agree completely.
 
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Chippster01

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Although we are forgiven of all our sin.....doesnt mean that we cant phyiscally not die......some will be walking the earth when Jesus comes back and others have lived out thier finite lives by doing the best that they could doing what is pleasing in his sight. These bodies of ours are temporary......untill a time when the word says we will change in a moment a twinkling of the eye corruption will put on incorruption,mortality immortality We shall be changed.
 
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