Why Are Christians Being Taught To Fear and Hate Muslims?

ada · #1 (**permalink**) November 26th, 2011

We Hold These Truths founder and chief messenger, Charles E Carlson, challenged some angry evangelicals in Tennessee who hosted an anti-Islamic, "Hate Fest" at the church of Rev. Maury Davis, a convicted murderer. These anti-Islamic events, being conducted around the US, have become popular among angry evangelicals (aka Christian Zionists). This is an amazing story of the "Anti-Shariah" Seminar attended and reported by WHTT friend, Keith Johnson, and, the vigil held in front of the Cornerstone Church in Madison, TN on the Sunday after the seminar. During the vigil, Rev. Davis came out of his church to challenge Chuck Carlson (see Chuck's letter to Rev. Davis sent before the vigil). The vigil was reported in The Tennessean, "Anti-Shariah conference at Madison church spurs vigil." This podcast interview is exerpted from Mark Glenn's TheUglyTruth podcast of Nov. 17, 2011 (whole program). To understand the context of the whole issue, be sure to watch the 25 min. documentary, Not Welcome about the attack on Muslims in Murfeesboro, TN who wanted to build an new Islamic Center, even though they have had a small mosque there for 30 years.

WHTT Why Are Christians Being Taught To Fear and Hate Muslims?

systemdown101 · #2 (**permalink**) November 26th, 2011

I'm going to make a guess that it could be a backlash to the many incidents of anti-Christian sactions and sentiment being done to Christians in Muslim countries and/or by followers of Islam.

Such as recorded here.

Or here.

Or here.

Or here.

Or here.

Hey, here's a website that documents a whole bunch of reasons, from Coptic Christians living in Egypt.

Do you want more examples? That was just a cursory list of websites that list various laws and such against Christians enacted against them. I didn't want to make this post too long.

NarrowRoadDisciple · #3 (**permalink**) November 26th, 2011

Against what they believe and stand for yes. Against shariah law.. yes.
Hate and fear? no. This is not something Christians are supposed to be doing at all. While we can take a firm stance against the ungodly beliefs of Islam or any other religion and spiritual beliefs that go against God, we do not hate anyone, nor do we fear anyone except God. These are basic principles that we cannot turn our back to. Hate and fear are rooted in self and we must be ensuring that our fruit is from the tree of selflessness, and not built on the tree of self (rotten fruit).

Steve4U · #4 (**permalink**) November 26th, 2011

(Good comment)

So why are (some) Christians being taought to fear and hate Muslims, ada? Shallow quack teaching of course.

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ada · #5 (**permalink**) November 27th, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemdown101

I'm going to make a guess that it could be a backlash to the many incidents of anti-Christian sactions and sentiment being done to Christians in Muslim countries and/or by followers of Islam.

Such as recorded here.

Or here.

Or here.

Or here.

Or here.

Hey, here's a website that documents a whole bunch of reasons, from Coptic Christians living in Egypt.

Do you want more examples? That was just a cursory list of websites that list various laws and such against Christians enacted against them. I didn't want to make this post too long.

You better ask your judaic friends who is really behind them..
If you really want truth ask your tamudic friends who funded the
muslim brotherhood and other extremist organizations.
You know they motto of mossad do you?
"By Way Of Deception Thou Shalt Do War."
Why is mossad the biggest secret agency of the world?
Cause of the many payed sayanims.You must be one of them.

Who is killing innocent children and civilians in their wars since decades.
You know it! All other allegations are just your twisted propaganda.
The Ugly Truth

Jewish terrorism – timeline Hoff

#6 (**permalink**) November 27th, 2011

This is the first time I've heard of Christians being taught to fear and hate Muslims. Not surprising, I guess, considering all the crap in the world we already have... I wonder what part of the Bible they're using to teach that...

Ugly · #7 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

This is funny. The guy who posts about hating jews is now complaining about muslims being hated.

rus_lady · #8 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

Guys , brothers and sisters can we please stop being so judgmental ? we often see when something goes wrong with our neighbors and forget to look on our walk . yes , in Muslim countrys is not so good what deals with Christianity .... its not safe for those that convert in to Chritianity be there and being open about thier Faith . I want you try to stop saying stuff and stop and think and pray for those countrys so more and more Christians will be there , so there will be more people who will be going there to do out reach and so on . I see someone post pic with weapon here .... you know bad guys dwell not only among Muslims , but somehow we try to put all blame only on them ......

Kimber321 · #9 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

This is the first I've heard of christians being taught to fear and hate muslims. Where I come from we're still being taught that the Lord does not give us the spirit of fear and also to love our brother. But then, we're being taught from the Bible. Perhaps you're referring to sects who have those, ''extra books,'' that contradict the Bible?

bgrayz1 · #10 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

I have not been taught that way..

systemdown101 · #11 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

I apologize in advance for the wall of text here. I tried to keep it as short as I could, but there were a number of things that I really couldn't let slide.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly

This is funny. The guy who posts about hating jews is now complaining about muslims being hated.

Well, the links can be educational, but not in the way that was intended, I suspect. For instance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by ada

Jewish terrorism – timeline Hoff

I didn't need to go very far before I realized it was a bit skewed. Here's the very first part of the timeline from that link:

Quote:

950-930 BC

The tribe of Judah (Jews; and also another tiny tribe called the Benjaminites) are kicked out of the Israelite tribe (which is actually a group of tribes), and they resettle in southern Canaan (Palestine). They are kicked out because they are regarded as troublemakers and rebels, who do not follow the others in the Israelite tribe, especially regarding the issue of “one God for all.”

I mean, that information isn't in MY copy of 2 Chronicles, so I stopped taking anything seriously after that. But then again, the link also betrays some other things. Such as:

Quote:

When the Jews lose their power, the economy once again rests in European hands. Trade, which had been treated as a shady oligopoly, is now subject to fair competition, and fantastic economic progress is made. White patrons use some of their wealth to finance artists and scholars, and the Renaissance sweeps over Europe like a fresh, new spring. The new culture and learning is based almost entirely on ancient Greek and Roman scriptures, the cradle of European civilization, and the Renaissance will remain forever a great example of what a free White people can accomplish.

Yeah.

The link talks a great deal about Jewish moneylending, but fails to note a key point. From Wiki:

Quote:

Among socio-economic factors were restrictions by the authorities, local rulers, and frequently church officials. Jews were very often forbidden to own land, preventing them from farming. Because of their exclusion from guilds, most skilled trades were also closed to them, pushing them into marginal occupations considered socially inferior, such as tax- and rent-collecting or money lending. Catholic doctrine of the time held that money lending to one's fellow Christian for interest was a sin, and thus Jews tended to dominate this business. This provided the foundation for stereotypical accusations that Jews are greedy and involved in usury. Natural tensions between Jewish creditors and Christian debtors were added to social, political, religious, and economic strains. Peasants, who were often forced to pay their taxes and rents through Jewish agents, could vilify them as the people taking their earnings while remaining loyal to the lords and rulers on whose behalf the Jews worked. The number of Jewish families permitted to reside in various places was limited; they were forcibly concentrated in ghettos; and they were subjected to discriminatory taxes on entering cities or districts other than their own.

So you have the church and local officials essentially barring the Jews from performing many jobs, limiting them to moneylending, then everyone complaining that the Jews are moneylenders. It's a vicious circle, but one not noted.

Oh, a couple more quotes. I could go on for pages, but I'm trying to keep it short, so I'm limiting them to the ones I thought really demonstrated the intent of the article:

Quote:

1348-1350

Throughout Spain, France, Germany and Austria, Jews poison Christian wells and other water sources with the corpses of dead plague victims. Christians retaliate with the Black Death Massacres.

1852
A rabbi’s wife, Harriet Beecher Stowe, writes the novel Uncle Tom’s Cabin. Although she has never set foot in the South this didn’t prevent her from penning this anti-Southern book that greatly exaggerated the negatives surrounding Southern plantation life for slaves. In 1862, when Harriet visited President Lincoln, legend claims that he greeted her as “the little lady who made this big war” between the states. Even if the propaganda in this book were true, can any intelligent person really believe that the mythical Uncle Tom would have fared better if he had been born in Africa? A century and a half later, in 2002, slavery is still practiced in parts of Africa.

1883
Jews get an early start on advocating non-White immigration into America when leftist Jew Emma Lazarus writes her multiculturalist poem, “The New Colossus.” The poem will — of course — end up on a plaque under the Statue of Liberty in New York. That poem wrongly suggests — by design! — that America is supposed to be a soup of ethnic groups.

Yeah. Draw your own conclusions.

kayem77 · #12 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly

This is funny. The guy who posts about hating jews is now complaining about muslims being hated.

That's exactly what I thought!

Why is it ok to hate one group but not ok to hate another group?
The truth is....ITS NOT OK TO HATE ANY GROUP. If someone is teaching you to hate someone ada, I inform you that you have been fooled, and that's not the gospel of Jesus.

Ugly · #13 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemdown101

I apologize in advance for the wall of text here. I tried to keep it as short as I could, but there were a number of things that I really couldn't let slide.

Well, the links can be educational, but not in the way that was intended, I suspect. For instance:

I didn't need to go very far before I realized it was a bit skewed. Here's the very first part of the timeline from that link:

I mean, that information isn't in MY copy of 2 Chronicles, so I stopped taking anything seriously after that. But then again, the link also betrays some other things. Such as:

Yeah.

The link talks a great deal about Jewish moneylending, but fails to note a key point. From Wiki:

So you have the church and local officials essentially barring the Jews from performing many jobs, limiting them to moneylending, then everyone complaining that the Jews are moneylenders. It's a vicious circle, but one not noted.

Oh, a couple more quotes. I could go on for pages, but I'm trying to keep it short, so I'm limiting them to the ones I thought really demonstrated the intent of the article:

Yeah. Draw your own conclusions.

Umm.. yeah, i was actually referring to his other previous posts. Didn't eve bother with his links in this one.

#14 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by ada

We Hold These Truths founder and chief messenger, Charles E Carlson, challenged some angry evangelicals in Tennessee who hosted an anti-Islamic, "Hate Fest" at the church of Rev. Maury Davis, a convicted murderer. These anti-Islamic events, being conducted around the US, have become popular among angry evangelicals (aka Christian Zionists). This is an amazing story of the "Anti-Shariah" Seminar attended and reported by WHTT friend, Keith Johnson, and, the vigil held in front of the Cornerstone Church in Madison, TN on the Sunday after the seminar. During the vigil, Rev. Davis came out of his church to challenge Chuck Carlson (see Chuck's letter to Rev. Davis sent before the vigil). The vigil was reported in The Tennessean, "Anti-Shariah conference at Madison church spurs vigil." This podcast interview is exerpted from Mark Glenn's TheUglyTruth podcast of Nov. 17, 2011 (whole program). To understand the context of the whole issue, be sure to watch the 25 min. documentary, Not Welcome about the attack on Muslims in Murfeesboro, TN who wanted to build an new Islamic Center, even though they have had a small mosque there for 30 years.

WHTT Why Are Christians Being Taught To Fear and Hate Muslims?

Is it possible that Muslims have caused the fear and hatred towards them? It appears to me that they are the very people who have been taught to hate everyone who is not of their culture and religion.

Ritter · #15 (**permalink**) November 29th, 2011

I agree with the previous posters. If there is an inordinate hate or fear of the Muslim faith, it is more due to reaction than it is inculcation.

amazed · #16 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2011

Muslims actually want us to fear .. they are teaching it .. but we shouldn't be listening .. If God is for us, who can be gainst us.. whom shall we fear .. anyone who does not believe in Christ is a nonbeliever .. you are either for Christ or against Him .. no grey areas here ..the belief that Christians hatie Muslims or any other group .. is just another lie from you know who. However, in everyday life .. I don't see the Christians killing and destroying the Muslims .. oh and just by the way .. another name for Allah is Destroyer .. makes you think.

rus_lady · #17 (**permalink**) November 30th, 2011

time to time hear negative talk about Muslims here and it makes me sad . one of the cc chatters wrote coccertly how come you love on group of people and hate other ? its not how Christ taught us . We need to love not only one choosen group that you feel like u like it , but all people no matter where they are from . People in those countrys does not have much apportunity to became Christians and simply be open about thier Faith in God . I just pray so God will changes peoples heart and they will stop being negative to others groups which they seem not to like it and start to pray for them

Helloimandrewyo · #18 (**permalink**) December 7th, 2011

People fear what they do not understand.

Yet muslims give plenty of reasons for people to be weary of them, at least traditional muslims. Having worked for outreaches that deal with christians being persacuted by muslims, as well as other forms of religion; i can't really blame them. Something about having limbs chopped off and seeing your family and friends burned alive can leave a bad taste in people mouths.

If muslims really want public perception of them to change, then why don't they try and make a difference. All americans can think about is the 9/11 incident which was done in "allah's" name. Of course people aren't going to just turn around and embrace the religion. Same would happen if another christian crusade or genocide happened out of the blue.

Its not being racist or religously oppressive. At this point, its just being safe.

Helloimandrewyo · #19 (**permalink**) December 9th, 2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemdown101

I apologize in advance for the wall of text here. I tried to keep it as short as I could, but there were a number of things that I really couldn't let slide.

Well, the links can be educational, but not in the way that was intended, I suspect. For instance:

I didn't need to go very far before I realized it was a bit skewed. Here's the very first part of the timeline from that link:

I mean, that information isn't in MY copy of 2 Chronicles, so I stopped taking anything seriously after that. But then again, the link also betrays some other things. Such as:

Yeah.

The link talks a great deal about Jewish moneylending, but fails to note a key point. From Wiki:

So you have the church and local officials essentially barring the Jews from performing many jobs, limiting them to moneylending, then everyone complaining that the Jews are moneylenders. It's a vicious circle, but one not noted.

Oh, a couple more quotes. I could go on for pages, but I'm trying to keep it short, so I'm limiting them to the ones I thought really demonstrated the intent of the article:

Yeah. Draw your own conclusions.

This is well thought out.

ada · #20 (**permalink**) December 9th, 2011

Dance, dance like rick perry you pseudo christians with antichrist jews, forsaking Jesus Christ, advocate killing and waging wars all over the world for talmudic judaism..

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