School Shooting vs Abortion Clinic

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If those children had died in an abortion clinic, you wouldn't have heard a word about it.
There would be no news coverage, no moment of silence before NFL games and no flag lowered.
If their deaths are that tragic, why is the country ignoring the deaths of millions? It is pure and
simple hypocrisy and it goes all the way up to the President. For those who think abortion is ok
and should be legal, to get upset over school shooting is blatant hypocrisy. People who support
abortion say the fetus isn't a human being yet. So a guy walks into a school with a sub-human
attitude view of the people and kills them. WHAT"S THE DIFFERENCE?? The attitude is the same.
The end result is the same. The difference is the procedure. They even admit this fact by their
actions of wanting to point to the "gun." Let's focus on the 20 to 30 dead kids and ignore the
millions behind the curtain. What happened at the school pales in comparison to what has been
happening since the 1970's. But you got the President, sport stars, media stars all wanting to discuss
"guns". Are they that spiritually blind, or just that wicked, or both? These people are so out of touch
with reality, yet, the country gives them air time and elects them to office. Blind leading the blind.
There is something extremely wrong with the people who are wanting to stand on the corpes
of dead children to further their own political agendas. If they were truly concerned with the lives
of chidren, they would have shut down abortion long before this. It just truly disgust me that its the
procedure that have people upset rather than the death of a child.

I have to compare this to people, living in the city of Atlantis, making a big deal over a leaky faucet
AFTER the continent sunk beneath the ocean, and ignoring the ocean. Sure, the leaky faucet is bad,
very bad, but the country has sunk beneath an ocean of blood already. And that blood calls out to
God and He hears and remembers.
 
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How can anybody say you are not 100% right? We have so many ways to kill, so many kinds of people, and so much to answer for.
 
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yeah and what about the 168 pakistani children murdered by predator drone strikes, but americans really dont care...and as for gun violence...people who have visceral hatred for guns are morons, they are inanimate objects, its like getting angry at cars for car killings...here are some wonderful statistics:

check this link out:

Gun control stats – compare the ten big ‘killers’ in the US : Fire Andrea Mitchell!


MILLIONS OF BABIES MURDERED SINCE ROE VS WADE! who cries for their blood? only Christ does it seems...
 
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Not to count all the indians killed in "taming the west". Or all the "witches" burned in the Inquisition and in the early days of Massachusetts.
 
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What we don't want to do is compare evils. Fornication that leads to pregnancy should not be condoned, it should be addressed. The United States has a 40 percent illegitimacy rate, 50+ percent for people of color, and yes, that goes right to the President . The USA has bastardized millions more, having a 50 percent divorce rate (including young Adam Lanza). A Cesarean Section rate that is more than double the rate that the World Health Organization has warned for the last 20 years is too high and indicates a serious social as well as medical problem also speaks volumes. Sexual disease is so rampant that the governors of more than 17 states have mandated sex drugs for sixth grade girls. The Gods Mithra and Tamuz abound in the USA as it is, accepting, indeed, promoting more of the same is abominable. There is little room left at the wailing wall ...

Flesh gives birth to flesh, but spirit gives birth to spirit, no one enters the Kingdom of God unless they are born again ...

As Kenisyes stated there are many ways in which we kill ...
 
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Also fetuses are not the same as children. Just thought Id point that out
 
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kenisyes

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You would think that murder of a pet for convenience was horrible, would you not? No matter how long you love it, feed it, care for it, and wait, a pet will not turn into a human person (meant for heaven someday) like a fetus will.
 
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What we don't want to do is compare evils.
The end result is the same....dead kids. What i showed was the hypocrisy that is going on after the
shooting. It isn't the kids, but the method. The comparison was used to show that IF the country as
a whole was *THAT* serious about protecting kids, abortion clinics wouldn't be here today.
 
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Also fetuses are not the same as children. Just thought Id point that out
I think you need to reexamine your perspective, you know, with a biblical one! they are unborn children, but hey who cares right?
 

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And what is it that you think fetuses are, exactly?
Pregnancies where its not developed enough to survive outside of the womb on its own. This includes most pregnancies up until the 25-26th week. It's rare for fetuses wearing less than 500gm to even survive. I mean I don't even consider them alive until birth anyways. You know basic viability...
 
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Pregnancies where its not developed enough to survive outside of the womb on its own. This includes most pregnancies up until the 25-26th week. It's rare for fetuses wearing less than 500gm to even survive. I mean I don't even consider them alive until birth anyways. You know basic viability...
You know it's luke warm, world conformed christians like you that is wrong with the body today, i'm glad you sleep well every night know that the unborn that are slaughtered daily are just "fetuses" to you and your pseudo christian world view! dont come back at me saying i should not judge you either, i am simply discerning good from evil by using the word of god almighty, scripture says:

Jeremiah. 1:5. Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.
 
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Also fetuses are not the same as children. Just thought Id point that out
so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.
Ephesians 4:14
 

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You know it's luke warm, world conformed christians like you that is wrong with the body today, i'm glad you sleep well every night know that the unborn that are slaughtered daily are just "fetuses" to you and your pseudo christian world view! dont come back at me saying i should not judge you either, i am simply discerning good from evil by using the word of god almighty, scripture says:

Jeremiah. 1:5. Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.
And yet that verse does nothing to show that fetuses are alive. Just simply that God who is outside of time created them.
 
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Pregnancies where its not developed enough to survive outside of the womb on its own. This includes most pregnancies up until the 25-26th week. It's rare for fetuses wearing less than 500gm to even survive. I mean I don't even consider them alive until birth anyways. You know basic viability...

before birth, babies have a functioning brain, their organs are working, they have a heart beat, etc....but I'm sure you already knew all that. So, why exactly do you not consider a baby alive until birth?
 
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And yet that verse does nothing to show that fetuses are alive. Just simply that God who is outside of time created them.

it shows that God knew the person while he formed them in the womb. how can he know a person if it isn't yet a person? or, if it isn't even alive? does God ever say, hey rock - i knew you while i formed you?
 

Nautilus

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well seeing how God is omnipotent and omnipresent, his version of knowing probably isnt the same as our definition of the word would be.
 
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You know it's luke warm, world conformed christians like you that is wrong with the body today, i'm glad you sleep well every night know that the unborn that are slaughtered daily are just "fetuses" to you and your pseudo christian world view! dont come back at me saying i should not judge you either, i am simply discerning good from evil by using the word of god almighty, scripture says:

Jeremiah. 1:5. Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you.
Whooo, brother, I love ya for tellin it like it is and speaking it boldly like a real man of God. Man I love it.
 
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Still, the issue cannot be keep the illegitmate child or don't keep it. A simple either-or fallacy. The fallacy is, the impregnation is the issue and the sin to address -- fornication (mentioned 40 times in the King James -- BibleGateway.com - Keyword Search: fornicat )

I understand the point trying to be made, but it rises to a fallacy if one were to infer that one might accept the idea of Mithra / Emmaneul, fornication or illegitimacy. I do agree with the concept of --- "how can one make such an issue of a school shooting, when the principal is on her second marriage with 5 daughters, or that poor Adam Lanza was an orphaned child of GE".

The societal issues that we refuse to see and address are indeed more of a question than gun control or cops or metal detectors in schools -- it is that the schools are Federally funded Socialism, attempting to create Marxism, adding the police (or military) in, just makes it drift to Fascism. No, don't make it a gun issue, and don't say "politics aside" as politics IS the issue. The very reason the PEOPLE demanded a Bill of Rights was to protect it from such evils of this government approach to mind control and accepting evil as good, and demanding payment and servitude from the people, while providing alms to evil (see the thread on Bel and the Dragon) whilst the government gets rich off the people. End Rant ...
 
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there is a percentage of abortions that it is clear that the mum will die 100 percent dead if she carries on and there is also a percentage of abortions where the mum as gone for the gift which is birth control where the doctor give the women medicine to produce eggs the women can produce lots and lots of eggs which can all become vertile so they remove some of them to save the children in her womb and her self.
please do not forget how medical abortion is so important to some people and it does save lives
i understand your hert brother and while it is probably a pain in the heart for most people who do abortion and i would say most of these people will live a terrible hert in there hearts afterwards we should not forget that and we should not forgot that they have this choice given to them by law .

however i do not think you can compare abortion to the kids that died in america last week in the way you have compared them many women that do not do abortion because they have left it to late abandon there kids when they are born have you ever seen a baby seal that has lost there mum many die just after a few days.
have you ever seen a child that has only just found out that her parents are not her real parents after 16 years i feel are prays should be with them when it come to abortion we should also pray for the great pain the mum is going through with making that decision. and we should also pray for the live that has been lost to in the abortion and we should also pray for the doctors who have had to perform the operation.

we all do things we regret in life like having to kill a live to save a live or having to a job you do not want to do to feed your kids or making a decision you not want to make so please say a prayer for the kids who died and do not make it a reason to give you more argument against abortion