The Earth is flat? It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice?

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BeyondET

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Here's some math for ya 4 inches equals 264,000 feet what would a 16 1/2 feet drop look like at the edge of the photo.
surely almost nothing like triple digit millimeters if even millimeters could be used probably a measurement smaller than that would be needed.
 
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AVoiceintheWilderness

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Thanks for encouraging me to actually do the math, BeyondET. This just gets better and better.

Ok so follow along with your calculators, folks. We'll take out all the guess work, here.

Google tells us that Earth is 24,901 miles in circumference.

Half of that gives us a hemisphere or half circumference of 12,450 miles.

Now, if we want to find out how many inches the Earth curves per mile, all we have to do is take the Radius of the Earth,

Google says it is 3,959 miles,

and one quarter of the circumference,

Google says 6,225.25 miles,

and create a simple algebraic equation for the inches of drop per mile.

For this equation, all we need is the Radius distance 'IN FEET'

and the variable (X) that we are trying to deduce.

So, Earth's radius 'IN FEET' is 20,903,520 FEET.

(X) being our variable for 'inches of drop/curve per mile'

Here's our equation:

6,225.25 miles (one quarter of Earth's circumference) multiplied by (X) should equal the same amount of FEET as Earth's Radius 20,903,520.

6225.25(X) = 20,903,520

Now, if we try 8 for X, which is what 'Science' tells us is the 'inches of drop/curve' per mile of circumference on the Earth, look what we get.

6,225.25 x 8 = 49,802 inches. (Note: 'NOT' 20,903,520 inches)

Now divide that by 12 to get the feet. 49,802/12 = 4,150.16666 feet.

If our Radius is 3,959 miles, then our feet of drop should be 20,903,520 feet.

SO, this tells us that 8 inches per mile is WAY too little for all of "Science's" stated measurements of the Earth to be correct.

In order for Science to be correct about all their stated measurements of the Earth, (X) would need to equal 3,357.8603268945 inches of drop per mile.

Try it for yourself on your very own calculator.

6,225.25(3,357.8603268945) = 20,903,519.999999

If your calculations match these results, and I assure you they do unless you've done something wrong, then that means there are supposedly 3,357.86 inches of drop per mile. That's almost 280 feet or 279.821693907875 feet.

Now, for anyone math-inclined, I welcome any correction to that.

AND, having shown all that, we can see very clearly that there is absolutely no way possible that the amount of curvature this would demand would be very visible in that pic, regardless of all the compressing factors of the image, etc.

And Mt. Rainier would be 54,565.230312035 feet below visible view. That's over TEN MILES below view.

I think the dishes are done, here.

Earth is FLAT!!!
 
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AVoiceintheWilderness

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Correction to the above:

AND, having shown all that, we can see very clearly that the amount of curvature this would demand would be very OBVIOUSLY visible in that pic, regardless of all the compressing factors of the image, etc.
 
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The earth is not flat where I live :D:rolleyes:
Or is this the edge of the world? :eek:
 

Tommy379

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Let me guess. An OBLATE SPHEROID, right?



Ok, Neil de Grasse.

All those 'supposed' photographs of Earth for the past 4-5 decades that clearly depict a perfectly spherical ball.....



...and NOW, all of a sudden, "NO, it's not perfectly spherical, it's ACTUALLY bulged at the equator and fatter in the southern hemisphere!"



.........Really?



Ok, Tommy, you win.
What point do you prove with pictures of the earth shaped like a pear?
 
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BeyondET

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Thanks for encouraging me to actually do the math, BeyondET. This just gets better and better.

Ok so follow along with your calculators, folks. We'll take out all the guess work, here.

Google tells us that Earth is 24,901 miles in circumference.

Half of that gives us a hemisphere or half circumference of 12,450 miles.

Now, if we want to find out how many inches the Earth curves per mile, all we have to do is take the Radius of the Earth,

Google says it is 3,959 miles,

and one quarter of the circumference,

Google says 6,225.25 miles,

and create a simple algebraic equation for the inches of drop per mile.

For this equation, all we need is the Radius distance 'IN FEET'

and the variable (X) that we are trying to deduce.

So, Earth's radius 'IN FEET' is 20,903,520 FEET.

(X) being our variable for 'inches of drop/curve per mile'

Here's our equation:

6,225.25 miles (one quarter of Earth's circumference) multiplied by (X) should equal the same amount of FEET as Earth's Radius 20,903,520.

6225.25(X) = 20,903,520

Now, if we try 8 for X, which is what 'Science' tells us is the 'inches of drop/curve' per mile of circumference on the Earth, look what we get.

6,225.25 x 8 = 49,802 inches. (Note: 'NOT' 20,903,520 inches)

Now divide that by 12 to get the feet. 49,802/12 = 4,150.16666 feet.

If our Radius is 3,959 miles, then our feet of drop should be 20,903,520 feet.

SO, this tells us that 8 inches per mile is WAY too little for all of "Science's" stated measurements of the Earth to be correct.

In order for Science to be correct about all their stated measurements of the Earth, (X) would need to equal 3,357.8603268945 inches of drop per mile.

Try it for yourself on your very own calculator.

6,225.25(3,357.8603268945) = 20,903,519.999999

If your calculations match these results, and I assure you they do unless you've done something wrong, then that means there are supposedly 3,357.86 inches of drop per mile. That's almost 280 feet or 279.821693907875 feet.

Now, for anyone math-inclined, I welcome any correction to that.

AND, having shown all that, we can see very clearly that there is absolutely no way possible that the amount of curvature this would demand would be very visible in that pic, regardless of all the compressing factors of the image, etc.

And Mt. Rainier would be 54,565.230312035 feet below visible view. That's over TEN MILES below view.

I think the dishes are done, here.

Earth is FLAT!!!
Too funny that's in real time,, now do the math for a 4 inch wide photo assuming the photo is showing 50 miles of mt. Rainier

one mile is 5280 feet
50 miles is 264,000 feet

thats roughly 65,000 feet per inch of photo

how much should the horizon curve at each side from the center of the photo of a circle earth or round of a 4 inch wide photo
there is a measurement. the measurement isn't what your eyes thinks it's sees but a actual measurement.

of coarse I'm doubting your mind can wrap around what I'm saying because your looking at a photo of 50 mile part of earth not in real time but on a computer of a photo
 
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BeyondET

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The dishes done to funny young man your way out there, you think a 4 inch photo will show proof of a flat earth is bazaar to say the least.
 
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BeyondET

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My bust on my statement of earth being 3900 miles radius and some change, your correct it's more than 20,000 miles so yea it would be extremely hard to see a 8 inch drop per mile with the naked eye.
 
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AVoiceintheWilderness

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What point do you prove with pictures of the earth shaped like a pear?
That is what current SCIENCE says our Earth looks like.

Look it up.

This is directly from Wikipedia:

Since the Earth is flattened at the poles and bulges at the equator, geodesy represents the shape of the earth with an oblate spheroid. The oblate spheroid, or oblate ellipsoid, is an ellipsoid of revolution obtained by rotating an ellipse about its shorter axis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_the_Earth

And Neil degrasse Tyson, American astrophysicist, cosmologist, author, and science communicator, who is 'supposedly' the reigning scientific EXPERT on this topic, adds that the southern hemisphere is "chubbier" than the northern hemisphere.

Thus:



YOUR own scientific experts on the topic!! Not mine!!

Is this where YOU live??
 
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AVoiceintheWilderness

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My bust on my statement of earth being 3900 miles radius and some change, your correct it's more than 20,000 miles so yea it would be extremely hard to see a 8 inch drop per mile with the naked eye.
You'll just continue to ignore the absolutely undeniable facts that I present and that's to be expected.

But others who read this thread will see the clear Truth.

It's very simple:

Google's radius for the Earth (3,959 miles)

One quarter of the Earth's circumference according to Google (6,225.25 miles)

Earth's radius in FEET (3,959 miles = 20,903,520 FEET)

So to find how many inches per mile it takes for these figures to be correct, we have to find out how to make 6,225.25 miles equal 20,903,520 feet.

6,225.25 times (8 inches) = 49,802 inches.

Divide 49,802 by 12 and we get 4,150.166666 feet. So 8 inches per mile is INCORRECT.

Now plug in 40,294.323922734 for the inches per mile.

6225.25(40,294.323922734) = 250,842,239.9999998 inches.

Divide by 12 for feet 250,842,239.9999998/12 = 20,903,519.99999999 feet.

So there should be 40,294 inches of drop/curve per mile. That's 3,357 feet or 63% of a mile.

Yes, I was off a bit before by mislabeling feet for inches.

This is correct.

6,225.25(3,357.8603268945) = 20,903,519.99999999

So there ya go. Math's a "WITCH", but there ya have it.
 

posthuman

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Here is Carl Sagan explaining how in 240 BC, Eratosthenes deduced that the earth's surface is curved, that the geometry of the entire planet must be spherical, and calculated very closely the actual diameter of it, all by looking at the shadows of a couple of sticks and noting the passing of the summer solstice.

[video=youtube;0ZLI7WZZRJQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLI7WZZRJQ[/video]
 
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Here is Carl Sagan explaining how in 240 BC, Eratosthenes deduced that the earth's surface is curved, that the geometry of the entire planet must be spherical, and calculated very closely the actual diameter of it, all by looking at the shadows of a couple of sticks and noting the passing of the summer solstice.

[video=youtube;0ZLI7WZZRJQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZLI7WZZRJQ[/video]
Eratosthenes said, himself, that the two sticks were 800 kilometers apart. He paid some poor soul to pace them out.

So that means that if the Earth was flat (which it is), and the sun is near the Earth (not 93 million miles away), then it would only be necessary for the sun to be more directly over the one stick than the other.

Then the sun would cast 'No Shadow' from the one directly under the sun and 'a long shadow' from the other one that was 800 kilometers away.

Very simple.

Eratosthenes MAY have had a little too much sour wine that day. And NOW look at all the trouble he caused.

So, what can we learn from this?

Don't drink sour wine.

Look what happened to Noah.

Yikes! :eek:
 

p_rehbein

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uh, guys......this thread is from 2013!

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posthuman

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((from http://twanight.org/?id=3003972))

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A long exposure photo sequence with an ultra wide-angle lens has captured nearly an entire night over the Teide Observatory on the high slopes of Mount Teide, Tenerife, Canary islands.
The Earth rotation appears in form of the rotating sky above us. Long exposure night-time images capture this motion in form of
star trails around the celestial poles. Here the north celestial pole is on the left, marked by star Polaris, only a degree away from the north direction of the Earth rotation axis. On the right end star trails over the southern horizon are curved around the southern celestial pole (under the horizon of this northern hemisphere location).

Juan Carlos Casado, Starryearth.com
 
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((from http://twanight.org/?id=3003972))

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A long exposure photo sequence with an ultra wide-angle lens has captured nearly an entire night over the Teide Observatoryon the high slopes of Mount Teide, Tenerife, Canary islands.
The Earth rotation appears in form of the rotating sky above us. Long exposure night-time images capture this motion in form of
star trails around the celestial poles. Here the north celestial pole is on the left, marked by star Polaris, only a degree away from the north direction of the Earth rotation axis. On the right end star trails over the southern horizon are curved around the southern celestial pole (under the horizon of this northern hemisphere location).

Juan Carlos Casado, Starryearth.com
Those are some beautiful photoshopped images of star trails taken from the equator.

What I don't understand is if the Earth travels 67,000 miles per hour through space, ('While' it's spinning, mind you) and those time lapse images take between 4-8 hours of exposure, why are we seeing such perfectly circular patterns when the Earth has actually traveled between 268,000-536,000 miles through space in its rotation around the sun during that duration?

I'm just confused is all.

With the perfectly circular star patterns, it's almost as if the Earth is standing completely still in space and spinning or, well, no that couldn't be. Ha.

I was gonna say it's almost like the stars are fixed in patterns above the Earth and THEY are spinning over the Earth while the Earth is staying perfectly still.

That'd be silly. :eek:
 

tanakh

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Re: The Earth is flat. It's a circular flat disk surrounded by a wall of ice.

There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?

In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.
It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining. This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.

---> Frequently Asked Questions - The Flat Earth Wiki
The two questions I would put to the Society would be firstly what will happen if the Ice Wall melts due to Global Warming and secondly if they don't trust Photographs where are theirs showing a flat earth?
 
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AVoiceintheWilderness

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The Earth is Flat. Just as the Word of God demonstrates.

In this thread, alone:

* I have proved it with logic.

* I have proved it with reason.

* I have proved it with 'Science'

* I have proved it with photographs.

* I have proved it with plants/flowers that only grow in the special light of the Moon. (NOT sunlight)

* I have proved it with math. (Proving YOUR science WRONG)

* I have proved it with countless verses from God's Word.


There is nothing more I can do for those who refuse God's Truth.

God bless you all and I pray He will open your eyes and your hearts to His Truth someday.

My hands are clean.

I shake the dust from my sandals to those who refuse to hear the Truth and prefer to have their ears tickled.

Those who love Truth, shall see Truth. For it is all around you.