Alcohol

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Hikikomori

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Alcohol, in moderate intake of course, won't really have any harm on your body or mind, as long as you keep it in control.
So without giving out too much of my own opinions and feelings on the subject, I wanted to hear CC's take on Alcohol.
I'm not talking about alcoholism/abuse of alcohol, but alcohol in itself, and the ones who has a healthy relationship to it. Mainly faith oriented, but general opinions are welcome too.
Thanks.
 
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ji

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Alcohol, in moderate intake of course, won't really have any harm on your body or mind, as long as you keep it in control.
So without giving out too much of my own opinions and feelings on the subject, I wanted to hear CC's take on Alcohol.
I'm not talking about alcoholism/abuse of alcohol, but alcohol in itself, and the ones who has a healthy relationship to it. Mainly faith oriented, but general opinions are welcome too.
Thanks.
little now is addiction tomorrow..
It all depends on circumstances..
Flee from all evil,and by that its meant flee from all kinds of new bad attitudes which is brought into one's life...
and getting out of the bondage that one brought into their life in past...

So try not to license anything a little,because devil infiltrates in through that small crack in our lives to lock us down..

There is Power in Praying..:)Moment you realize that,no more you care for this world nor its lusts..
Its all about how to get more close to God- that's the only aim then..
 

crossnote

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also what is solid for one may be a stumbling block for another who is weak in that area.
 

Nautilus

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ive been drinking for near 15 years now. BUt its two or three beers at a time when i do. There is nothing sinful about enjoying a beer. And if it makes someone stumble they can just stumble their way off my front porch.
 
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ji

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ive been drinking for near 15 years now. BUt its two or three beers at a time when i do. There is nothing sinful about enjoying a beer. And if it makes someone stumble they can just stumble their way off my front porch.
This is not for sake of arguing,by saying this you are confident that its ok for your brother/sister to tomorrow go for it as habit...doesn't it sound a little bad that you have been drinking for 15 years and another person hearing your testimony here thinks its ok and plunge into an addiction from which he/she will struggle in their future..?
Are you confident enough to promote it?Or its up to everyone's decision..?drinking beer?yea,i have also...
But i don't license,even if used to in the past a little while...


"And if it makes someone stumble they can just stumble their way off my front porch." - that's a dangerous statement,it makes a person rely on self pride dan trust in God.this is how deception comes...Nobody is perfect,everything Good to be attained requires a Struggle..so none boasts about how they overcame nor is it a license to drink little..

There is only one question..
Are you confident enough to stand in court and say clearly that the suggestions you give indirectly even if misleads a person,is your responsibility because you mislead them?
 

Nautilus

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saying one can drink in mnoderation and supplying proof to the matter is not encouraging anyone to become a stinking drunk. People need to know their own limitations. And my front porch comment isn't dangerous it's simply if I do something that offends you at my own house, then you can simply stop coming to my house.

I'm not misleading anyone, ther number of people who drink regularly and are not alcoholics far outnumber those who couldn't handle it.
 
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Hikikomori

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I agree with Nautilus here. The problem isn't alcohol, It's the mindset of the people consuming it. I myself drink from time to time, a bit more than Nautilus; but if I sensed I had a problem, I would aknowledge that.
 

SparkleEyes

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I drink. I drink wine, beer and the harder stuff - not all at once! LOL I know when to stop. I go days without a sip and I have had, on occasion, several in one evening. I drink responsibly; I know when it is not appropriate to for me to drink or even have it available for others. :cool:
 

tourist

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Alcohol Story
Now this was years ago. It was a bright sunny spring morning in Orlando and I thought that a pina coloda sounded about right so I bought a rather large bottle of light rum and some mix and poured me one over crushed ice. I regret not having a chunk of pineapple as a garnish. I really do not remember what happened after one or three drinks as I woke up in the backyard the next day.

My brother is an alcoholic and as an example I gave up alcohol totally in 1992. I have seen the destructive effect that it can have on lives. I do not intend to judge anyone who enjoys an occasional adult beverage but that is not for me anymore.
 

Fenner

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I don't drink very often but I like beer and wine. I will enjoy one of those once and a while. I have family members that are alcoholic, when I've gone out to dinner with them I ask, if I have a beer will it bother you? They've always said no.
 
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To quote a friend in NA, Narcotics Anonymous, "Alcohol is not the problem. Heroin, LSD, Marijuana, and Gambling are not the problem. An addict suffers from some problem, which he medicates, and that is the source of addiction. You can solve the addiction through abstinence, but solving the cause can take a lifetime."
 

RickyZ

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I always refer to the wedding where Jesus thought 'now that everyone is buzzed let's bring out the good stuff!' Just kidding, please don't stone me. But moderation in everything is the key, from booze to tongues. I'm a little perplexed by the one interpretation that if something you do causes a brother to stumble, the answer is to tell that brother to go away. I'm not sure that's what was meant by the scripture. We get together with another couple and have a beer or two, but for him it didn't stop at two. He recently checked into rehab. When he gets out we will welcome him into our home, and we will not partake so as to support instead of tempt him. Why? Because we find fellowship with another brother to be better than having to have a drink. It's sad to hear that for some, that kind of love stops at the front porch.
 
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OP, I suggest refraining.......if you maybe start and cannot control it, or later on see it as an escape from reality and problems then you going to have some serious issues.........I'd rather not start at all........better safe than sorry. It could start off as an innocent drink but later on , you never know, addiction.....
 
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JustAnotherUser

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As long as one knows their limits... I'd prefer if someone drinks then it's only on occasions, but I have no control on another person's life. Especially if you know you can be addicted to* something then I really would be cautious about it...
 
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ji

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saying one can drink in mnoderation and supplying proof to the matter is not encouraging anyone to become a stinking drunk. People need to know their own limitations. And my front porch comment isn't dangerous it's simply if I do something that offends you at my own house, then you can simply stop coming to my house.

I'm not misleading anyone, ther number of people who drink regularly and are not alcoholics far outnumber those who couldn't handle it.
i don't have anything to say there,i for myself am the worst sinner ever lived whom Jesus Forgive..
If i want to say,i can say that being mixed in world is ok...

But i haven't seen anyone becoming comfy with God while licensing world to come into their lives than kick it out even if its a struggle...
No offence,but lets not make another weak one stumble and let me be honest,we all have our daily struggles so none can boast except in God.
 
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ji

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OP, I suggest refraining.......if you maybe start and cannot control it, or later on see it as an escape from reality and problems then you going to have some serious issues.........I'd rather not start at all........better safe than sorry. It could start off as an innocent drink but later on , you never know, addiction.....
well said,,.....yes..you said it correct.
 
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briguy

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Alcohol has destroyed my life all these years growing up and not worth it trying to quit for good now has it made me more depressed and lost jobs and girlfriend s and my wife from it if I don't quit now I'll lose my daughter and grandson has well I pray every day for the lord to really help me on this has the last few weeks where not good from drinking wine made my life worse has I lost my job last week has well so it really made me think of whats more important to me trying to get back on my feet or keep drinking and end up dead or something the last few weeks daughter called the police on me and even put me in the hospital I am really glad she did because of the drinking so trying to make the change for the better haven't drank in two weeks but I bot and box of wine to keep in the fridge has a reminder of how I treated my daughter when all that happened do not want to drink anymore .
 

crossnote

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ive been drinking for near 15 years now. BUt its two or three beers at a time when i do. There is nothing sinful about enjoying a beer. And if it makes someone stumble they can just stumble their way off my front porch.
I was referring to a weak brother, not a legalistic 'brother'.

This verse also applies with alcohol...

And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. Wherefore, if meat (beer) make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.
(1Co 8:11-13)

There is a difference between 'weak in faith' whose conscience deems it as sin, and one who 'pontificates' to other consciences that a certain act is sin. The latter is a legalist, and yes, I would join you on the porch but not with the one who may stumble.
 

p_rehbein

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Alcohol, in moderate intake of course, won't really have any harm on your body or mind, as long as you keep it in control.
So without giving out too much of my own opinions and feelings on the subject, I wanted to hear CC's take on Alcohol.
I'm not talking about alcoholism/abuse of alcohol, but alcohol in itself, and the ones who has a healthy relationship to it. Mainly faith oriented, but general opinions are welcome too.
Thanks.
Well, yes and no......alcohol in any amount has the effect of destroying brain cells............as well, even in moderation, it alters a persons mental, emotional state.......so not having ANY harm really isn't true........just saying........

I have never seen a single Medical Research Report that stated a person could have a "healthy relationship" with alcohol...