Random thoughts about Narcissism

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Here are some key words!

Later on I will post more ideas I thought while travelling on the subway:

Mat 23:7 ושישאלו בשלומם בשוקים ושיקראו להם בני האדם רבי רבי׃



Mat 23:10 NeitherG3366 be ye calledG2564 masters:G2519 forG1063 oneG1520 isG2076 yourG5216 Master,G2519 even Christ.G5547
 
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Although I don´t like Paul´s letters too much, these are the nearest source on biblical history I have to speak abou Narcissism.


Although Jesus spoke clearly about it on Matt 23, many have liked to look up into Paul´s, so I´d like to share a bit.


1Ti 4:2 Those teachings come through people who tell lies and trick others. These evil people cannot see what is right
and what is wrong. It is like their conscience has been destroyed with a hot iron.


2Ti 3:2 People will love only themselves and money. They will be proud and boast about themselves. They will abuse others with insults. They will not obey their parents. They will be ungrateful and against all that is pleasing to God.


2Ti 3:4 People will turn against their friends. They will do foolish things without thinking and will be so proud of
themselves. Instead of loving God, they will love pleasure.


2Ti 3:13 People who are evil and cheat others will become worse and worse. They will fool others, but they will also
be fooling themselves.




Jesus warned us to:


Matt 23: 3 "...They tell you to do things, but they don't do those things themselves."


Mat 23:5 The only reason they do what they do is for other people to see them. They make the little Scripture boxes
they wear bigger and bigger. And they make the tassels on their prayer clothes long enough for people to notice them.


Mat 23:6 These men love to have the places of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues.


Mat 23:7 And words of respect in the market-places, and to be named by men, Teacher.


Mat 23:12 Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.


Mat 23:28 It is the same with you. People look at you and think you are godly. But on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and evil.




A reason to give Them (and us) reasons:


Mat 23:34 So I tell you this: I send to you prophets and teachers who are wise and know the Scriptures. You will kill some of them. You will hang some of them on crosses. You will beat some of them in your synagogues. You will chase them from town to town.
 
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Act 12:21 Herod decided on a day to meet with them. On that day he was wearing a beautiful royal robe. He sat on his throne and made a speech to the people.
Act 12:22 The people shouted, "This is the voice of a god, not a man!"
Act 12:23 Herod did not give the glory to God. So an angel of the Lord caused him to get sick. He was eaten by worms inside him, and he died.
 
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Interesting:

According to (...) each time a person posts to his / her threads, any could be too alone, self-centered like a Narcisist.

Any how loves to talk a lot (and alone) could have written a log like this: 50
 
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Are pastors and speakers narcisists?

Those who have their bluetooth ALWAYS functioning ON (as their music played on) I may meet a narcisist?

(Robbers enjoy those mobile on to steal mobiles, by the way).

What at those enjoying looking into their mirrors? (Everywhere they are)
 
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Mat 23:10 And be ye not called guides; for one is your Guide, the Messiah. (Murdock version)
 
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Mat 23:10 Nor be called leaders, for One is your Leader, the Christ. (Versions: LITV, CEV and GNB)
 
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In the secular world, Narcissism Personality Disorder is considered quite serious. Here are the symptoms the Mayo Clinic speaks of:
"Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:


  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional"
 

SparkleEyes

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In the secular world, Narcissism Personality Disorder is considered quite serious. Here are the symptoms the Mayo Clinic speaks of:
"Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, which is in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.
Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include:

  • Believing that you're better than others
  • Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
  • Exaggerating your achievements or talents
  • Expecting constant praise and admiration
  • Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
  • Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
  • Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
  • Taking advantage of others
  • Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
  • Being jealous of others
  • Believing that others are jealous of you
  • Trouble keeping healthy relationships
  • Setting unrealistic goals
  • Being easily hurt and rejected
  • Having a fragile self-esteem
  • Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional"
And one doesn't have to have ALL or MOST of these traits to be considered a narcissist. :eek:
 
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And one doesn't have to have ALL or MOST of these traits to be considered a narcissist. :eek:
I think some of the symptoms our secular world lists are not what out Lord would list, too. For instance, "Believing that you're special and acting accordingly" As Christians, we ARE special and God wants us to act accordingly. We have been born again and given the Holy Spirit to guide us, our bodies are a temple. We have the Lord, we need not be afraid, we are tough-minded. Of course, that isn't that we are proud in ourselves, but humble before the Lord and proud of what the Lord does for us.
 
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Thanks Mrs REDTENT!

I will copy this to check as often as I remember.

Extrapolatic those tpis Mayo gave, I laghed at these ideas I might considered saying:

"Oh, Mrs Redtent... That was the list I was to publish... but you came first."

Here is another (though I´m pulled to "characterize some of them") May I? (Just for fun) (I guess).




Believing that you're better than others How come I forgot to post them? There was a black out, so I couldn´t post it.
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents Oh! yes! I´m a PhD... I know that subject well.
Expecting constant praise and admiration Will you not click on "LIKE"? It was me who started the thread...
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans Thanks, Mrs Tent. I knew you´d agree with ME on what.
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected Hey! You posted that because you think I´m a nut? Don´t you? Grrr! :mad:
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional" Oh, I absolutely knew it... I told you once!
 
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I think some of the symptoms our secular world lists are not what out Lord would list, too. For instance, "Believing that you're special and acting accordingly" As Christians, we ARE special and God wants us to act accordingly. We have been born again and given the Holy Spirit to guide us, our bodies are a temple. We have the Lord, we need not be afraid, we are tough-minded. Of course, that isn't that we are proud in ourselves, but humble before the Lord and proud of what the Lord does for us.
True!

Ther was a time i despised too many people and, unconciously, I partook with those who considered unbelivers uglier than "pagans", and that "P" sounded like "pigs" or "bastards". Just like this prayer, someone else prayed:


Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood over by himself and prayed, "God, I thank you that I am not greedy, dishonest, and unfaithful in marriage like other people. And I am really glad thatI am not like that tax collector over there.
Luk 18:12 I go without eating for two days a week, and I give you one tenth of all I earn."

Wow! I want to be healed, God!

Here we have a saying: "Dime de lo que presumes, y te diré de qué adoleces"

It might mean: "Tell me what you are boasful for, and I will tell you what you lack" (or something like that).

When I heard: "I´m saved" againts those who "are" not saved (temporaly), I felt it was too showy to be like that: Hope I change someday!
 
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Thanks Mrs REDTENT!

I will copy this to check as often as I remember.

Extrapolatic those tpis Mayo gave, I laghed at these ideas I might considered saying:

"Oh, Mrs Redtent... That was the list I was to publish... but you came first."

Here is another (though I´m pulled to "characterize some of them") May I? (Just for fun) (I guess).

Believing that you're better than others How come I forgot to post them? There was a black out, so I couldn´t post it.
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents Oh! yes! I´m a PhD... I know that subject well.
Expecting constant praise and admiration Will you not click on "LIKE"? It was me who started the thread...
Believing that you're special and acting accordingly
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans Thanks, Mrs Tent. I knew you´d agree with ME on what.
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected Hey! You posted that because you think I´m a nut? Don´t you? Grrr! :mad:
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional" Oh, I absolutely knew it... I told you once!
I thought it was all those other guys we were talking about. We have both known each other long enough to know none of this relates to either of us, does it? I just put in a full sized mirror on my bedroom door, I better get that thing down. It shows an old bent over woman, and we both know that's not me.
 
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Reading a bit, about narcissism, I ran into Psyche, that mythological maiden who, after undergoing hardships due to Venus´ jealousy of her beauty, was reunited to Cupid, and made immortal by Jupiter.

Here -it seems- the known movie of "White Snow" got most of its charming tale.
 
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Feeding back this thread:

"See if you can recognize any of the following symptom in those in and around your life, or in young adults that you might know. As in everything that we learn as a part of personal development, take a little time and do a serious self-examination of your own life. See if any of these symptoms are present in your own life.

What is Narcissistic Personality Disorder? Narcissistic personality disorder is characterized by dramatic, emotional behavior, in the same category as antisocial and borderline personality disorders.


Narcissistic personality disorder symptoms may include any combination of the following, or even all of these symptoms:

– Believing that you’re better than others
– Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
– Exaggerating your achievements or talents
– Expecting constant praise and admiration
– Believing that you’re special and acting accordingly
– Failing to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
– Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
– Taking advantage of others and then justifying your actions
– Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
– Being jealous of others or always being suspicious of others motives
– Believing that others are jealous of you and suspicous of your motives
– Trouble keeping healthy relationships, especially with the opposite sex
– Setting unrealistic goals for yourself or for others
– Being easily hurt and rejected – living from one pitty party to another
– Having a fragile self-esteem and feeling that you don’t measure up
– Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional

How did you do? See anything that jumped out at you about someone you know? How about in your own life? I know what you are thinking if you are seeing things here that seem familiar, are rationalizing some of them. Many of the features of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) could easily be rationalized as seeming to have confidence or a strong self-esteem, but it is not the same.

NPD crosses the border of healthy confidence and self-esteem into thinking so highly of yourself that you put yourself on a pedestal. In contrast, people who have healthy confidence and self-esteem don’t value themselves more than they value others. When you have NPD, you may come across as conceited, boastful or pretentious. You often monopolize conversations or speak over others when they attempt to interject or contribute. You may belittle or look down on people you perceive as inferior."

Source: david ward | Tag | Relationships
 

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I know quite alot of narcissistic people.. :/