The Cowardliness Of Modern Day Christians!

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Normally, I am very good at writing blogs about various subjects, but this one I just had to copy and paste my last comment to a particular post that I replied to.

I just got finished posting a reply to someone's post about persecution that a "transgender" replied to. Now, first of all, I did NOT expect there to be any of THOSE people to be members here as this site which is supposed to be a "Christian Site".

What aggravates me is the COWARDLINESS of many of those who call themselves Christians! Today's Christians care more about Britney Spears, Lady GaGa, or their favorite band or celebrity than they do about Jesus Christ!

Below is my response to this, so-called Christian on another post. You also can't help but notice how upset I was…and I feel, rightly so.

I welcome everyone's response to this, including cowards!

Below is my response:


OK, I'm a bit unnerved by this! A person "on a Christian site" just admitted that he is a "transsexual" and is living as a "woman" and no one challenges this person???? Are you kidding me?????

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "TRANSSEXUAL CHRISTIAN"!!!!! THIS IS ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY!! THIS PERSON IS THE ENEMY POSING AS A CHRISTIAN AND YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT!! HOW DARE ANY OF YOU CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN! THIS IS ABSOLUTE BLASPHEMY! HOMOSEXUALITY AND TRANSGENDERISM IS A MOCKERY OF GOD!!!

GOD DOES NOT ACCEPT EVERYONE! IF HE DID, HE WOULD ACCEPT THOSE WHO BLASPHEME HIM, AND HE DOES NOT!!! WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT THAT????? ANSWER ME THOSE OF YOU WHO CALL YOURSELVES CHRISTIANS! WHAT DOES GOD SAY ABOUT THAT???? TELL ME WHERE IN THE BIBLE IT SUPPORTS BLASPHEMERS????

THOSE OUT THERE WHO CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, WHO ACCEPT SUCH REPULSIVE ACTS OF BLASPHEMY, AND DARE NOT STAND UP FOR THE LORD OUT OF FEAR PERSECUTION, HAD BETTER GET DOWN ON THEIR KNEES AND TRULY REPENT OF THEIR SINS OR THEY WILL PARISH IN THE LAKE OF FIRE!!!

I AM NOT A COWARD, AND I WILL NOT ALLOW SUCH BLASPHEMY AND FILTH TO NOT GO UNNOTICED!!

(name removed), why not change your name to, BAPHOMET!



This is EXACTLY why Christians are not taken seriously anymore, because too many Christians have turned into COWARDS and are too afraid to STAND UP FOR THEIR LORD JESUS CHRIST! Oh, just in case any of your forgot, he died on the cross and shed his blood for your sins, and you can't do a simple act and stand up for him with your voice?? How cowardly is that?!!!

Instead of fearing God, and seeking his praise, you fake Christians fear man, therefor only seek mans praise! All of you who call yourselves Christians had better repent and beg the Lord's forgiveness for excepting such BLASPHEMOUS FILTH!

AND, NO, I will not apologize for standing up for Our Lord Jesus Christ, like a REAL Christian should do!

If I receive any persecution from anyone in regards to this post, that will be the "true face" of Evil as the Evil One wants Political Correctness so his heathen can take over the whole Earth! Bring on the persecution! I will gladly accept it in Jesus' name!
 
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"I'm not a coward! (name removed)" = Just lost credibility
 
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No problem, Ugly, I guess it is always wrong to stand up for Jesus?
 

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DaGster who are you to call all of us cowards? and by the way we are not called to judge and condemn we are called to love, im sorry but your anger is not justified and you need to learn more humbleness love and self control. N0ow if you have a problem with this person being on this site then sadly that is your issue, we Christians are to welcome all here with open arms and treat them with the same love and respect that we would for our loved ones and friends.

we do not have to agree with their life style or their beliefs but if you really are a Christian then you will treat them with love patience and respect. Jesus himself ate and drank with the worst sinners
 
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DaGster who are you to call all of us cowards? and by the way we are not called to judge and condemn we are called to love, im sorry but your anger is not justified and you need to learn more humbleness love and self control. N0ow if you have a problem with this person being on this site then sadly that is your issue, we Christians are to welcome all here with open arms and treat them with the same love and respect that we would for our loved ones and friends.

we do not have to agree with their life style or their beliefs but if you really are a Christian then you will treat them with love patience and respect. Jesus himself ate and drank with the worst sinners
All of you are cowards if you are not standing up for Jesus and are not rebuking such blasphemy.
 
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No problem, Ugly, I guess it is always wrong to stand up for Jesus?
All you did was avoid my point while continuing to play the martyr, more loss of credibility. Troll on though.
 
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All you did was avoid my point while continuing to play the martyr, more loss of credibility. Troll on though.
Do you accept the Rainbow Christians? They make up the so-called Christians in the LGBT community. Do you feel that God is fine with their version of Christianity?
 

Blain

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All of you are cowards if you are not standing up for Jesus and are not rebuking such blasphemy.
And you sir are using your anger and hatred as a way to somehow justify your actions, the only person guilty here is you, you are in no place to judge anyone and you are just as much a sinner as the person you are trying to condemn.
Im sorry but you are not being a very good Christian, Christians are to love not condemn and if you have no love in your heart then im afraid your not a Christian just a person saying he is
 
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And you sir are using your anger and hatred as a way to somehow justify your actions, the only person guilty here is you, you are in no place to judge anyone and you are just as much a sinner as the person you are trying to condemn.
Im sorry but you are not being a very good Christian, Christians are to love not condemn and if you have no love in your heart then im afraid your not a Christian just a person saying he is
Blain, its true, we have all fallen short of the glory of God. But your comment is what is wrong with modern day Christianity. Christians are supposed to rebuke those who mock God, but instead, we try to show them lenience.

I did say these people need to repent. I did not say that they could not be saved!

Proverbs 28:1-28
The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion. When a land transgresses, it has many rulers, but with a man of understanding and knowledge, its stability will long continue. A poor man who oppresses the poor is a beating rain that leaves no food. Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them. Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it completely.

Mark 3:29
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
 
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And what are you doing to help those who are LGBT to even come to Christ other than condemning their existence to even give them that chance?
 
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Hey DeGster If your standing up for Jesus, Did He not say he who hath not sinned cast the first stone to an adulterer? Look you equating that your sins are not as bad as the transsexual. I'm sorry but God sees all sins the same, only we see them as different because of what we can tolerate. Hey there is somebody out there who can get through to that person, I for one am not qualified. And for your information I do stand with Jesus and He didn't say to put people into boxes, He who is not against us is for us. He said that to apostles who wanted to bring down fire on a man who was casting demons out in Jesus' name. You can't be saying things like "Those People" when maybe that person came to this site as a cry for help. I would hope he came to the right site and that he finds the help he needs.
 
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I actually know quite a few in that community and they VERY WELL know my position.
 
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Hey DeGster If your standing up for Jesus, Did He not say he who hath not sinned cast the first stone to an adulterer? Look you equating that your sins are not as bad as the transsexual. I'm sorry but God sees all sins the same, only we see them as different because of what we can tolerate. Hey there is somebody out there who can get through to that person, I for one am not qualified. And for your information I do stand with Jesus and He didn't say to put people into boxes, He who is not against us is for us. He said that to apostles who wanted to bring down fire on a man who was casting demons out in Jesus' name. You can't be saying things like "Those People" when maybe that person came to this site as a cry for help. I would hope he came to the right site and that he finds the help he needs.
I do not seek mans praise. My position is unpopular with at least 90% of Christians. Why? Because I am not afraid to stand up!

We all fall short of the glory of God!

This is why America is falling! Because Christians are week and do not stand up! I stood up for my Lord and spoke out against someone who is living as a "woman" who was born a "man" and then calls himself a Christian! Living as a woman when born a man, then calls himself a Christian is making a mockery of God!

Those in the LGBT community can be saved, but as long as they truly repent and stray from their wicked ways and accept Jesus as their Lord and personal savior. Their blasphemous acts can be forgiven if they do not blaspheme the Holy Spirit. That is why I quoted Mark 3:29 in a previous comment.
 

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Blain, its true, we have all fallen short of the glory of God. But your comment is what is wrong with modern day Christianity. Christians are supposed to rebuke those who mock God, but instead, we try to show them lenience.

I did say these people need to repent. I did not say that they could not be saved!

Proverbs 28:1-28
The wicked flee when no one pursues, but the righteous are bold as a lion. When a land transgresses, it has many rulers, but with a man of understanding and knowledge, its stability will long continue. A poor man who oppresses the poor is a beating rain that leaves no food. Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them. Evil men do not understand justice, but those who seek the Lord understand it completely.

Mark 3:29
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
I rebuke those in need of rebuking and I love those in need of loving, but i will not rebuke these ppl who you would condemn and see impurity in them without first seeing it in yourself.

Whats wrong with modern day Christianity is the lack of love, if you really claim to stand for Christ then prove it show love and compassion for ALL ppl and not condemn them because they sin differently than you. A sinner cannot judge a sinner and if this is who you are as a person and Christian then you are in the same boat as the ppl you condemn. you then need to be saved as well as them. Anyone can call themselves a Christian and yes they can take that title they can study scripture they can pray to God but the mark that only a true Christian has is the love in their hearts.

From what I have seen from you so far I see no love only self righteousness
 
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Who is the real coward? Point them out so we can shame them. Wait you already did that...
 
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Stand up for Jesus? .. our job is to love Him and love others. It is the Holy spirit and His job alone to convict of sin in the light of God's word. We are called to love and let God be God to others. How dare you pull God off the judgement seat and sit yourself down as God. Repent and turn from judging others for with the measure you judge you also will be judged.
 
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We are to love the sinner, but hate the sin.

And this is most of what is wrong with our churches today, they are too busy pleasing man rather than pleasing God and they won't preach Gods truth. At least I have seen it first hand where I live anyway.

Yes, God calls us to love one another, which we can and should do, but we should hate the sin. I hate my own sin and I am always turning to Christ to help give me strength. But God does call homosexuality an abomination. There is no getting around it. Those are HIS own words and HE makes it very clear. It is unacceptable.

Leviticus 18:22New American Standard Bible (NASB)


[SUP]22 [/SUP]You shall not lie with a male as [SUP][a][/SUP]one lies with a female; it is an abomination.


This is a very touchy subject, one of which all of us need to turn to the word of God for the answer on this subject and I think HIS word is pretty clear.

1 Corinthians 6:8-10
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

[SUP]8 [/SUP]On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren.

[SUP]9 [/SUP]Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor [SUP][a][/SUP]effeminate, nor homosexuals, [SUP]10 [/SUP]nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.


1 Timothy 1:9-11New American Standard Bible (NASB)

[SUP]9 [/SUP]realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers [SUP]10 [/SUP][SUP][a][/SUP]and [SUP][b][/SUP]immoral men [SUP][c][/SUP]and homosexuals [SUP][d][/SUP]and kidnappers [SUP][e][/SUP]and liars [SUP][f][/SUP]and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, [SUP]11 [/SUP]according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.


Romans 1:26-28New American Standard Bible (NASB)

[SUP]26 [/SUP]For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [SUP][a][/SUP]unnatural,[SUP]27 [/SUP]and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing [SUP][b][/SUP]indecent acts and receiving in [SUP][c][/SUP]their own persons the due penalty of their error.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And just as they did not see fit [SUP][d][/SUP]to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper,

Genesis 2:24New American Standard Bible (NASB)

[SUP]24 [/SUP]For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.


Some times it is ok to show anger and some times it is not. God gave us that emotion and it should be used for the right reasons. Christ Himself got angry and knocked over the tables when He saw what was going on in the temple, it angered Him that much.

John 2:14-16New American Standard Bible (NASB)


[SUP]14 [/SUP]And He found in the temple those who were selling oxen and sheep and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. [SUP]15 [/SUP]And He made a scourge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables; [SUP]16 [/SUP]and to those who were selling the doves He said, “Take these things away; stop making My Father’s house a [SUP][a][/SUP]place of business.”


I think God wants us to be passionate about His word and take it seriously and to guide those who are misled. And I don't mean to offend anyone, but you cannot be homosexual and Christian, there is no such thing and Gods word states that.

Here is a Bible Study by Dr. Charles Stanley on Anger (there is a good and right anger and a bad anger)

How to Handle Anger, Part 3- Righteous Anger

Indignation is anger caused by a desire to protect another person or correct an unholy situation. Although this emotion can motivate us to take positive action, we must proceed carefully. Let's look at how believers can wisely handle this powerful emotion.

A. Examples of Righteous Indignation in Scripture
1. Moses
While the patriarch was on Mt. Sinai receiving God's covenant, the Israelites made a calf out of gold and began to worship it.

  • What did Moses do when he saw the people dancing and singing in honor of the idol (Ex. 32:19)?
  • What motivated him to react in righteous indignation?
Adam Clarke's commentary says that it's possible Moses reacted emotionally to the people's idolatry, but more likely he did it symbolically. The people's choices broke the covenant they had with God. Moses' action was a response to their unfaithfulness and symbolized how they deserved to be treated by the Lord.

  • Why do you think Moses ground the idol to dust and made the Israelites drink it (Ex. 32:20)?
2. Jesus
The temple money changers profited significantly from trading ordinary coins for Hebrew shekels, which were acceptable as an offering to God.

  • Why did Christ overturn the tables in the temple and prevent all buying and selling (Matt. 21:12-13)?
  • How does the portrayal of Jesus in this passage contrast with the way most people picture Him?
3. Peter
When Judas came to betray Christ, Peter tried to defend the Lord (John 18:10-11).

  • How does he react when the guards try to grab Jesus (Matt. 26:47-54)?
  • Why is violence usually not the right response to indignation (v. 52)?
  • Why didn't Jesus need Peter to defend Him (Matt. 26:53)?
  • Christ mentioned several times that He had to die (Matt. 12:39-40, 20:18, 26:2). Yet Peter either failed to understand or could not accept that fact. What do you think is the reason? (See John 6:66-69 if needed.)
B. How to Handle Righteous Indignation
1. React immediately if the situation calls for it.
The Lord sometimes uses righteous indignation to motivate us. When Jesus saw the woman accused of adultery, He rose to her defense (John 8:1-11). You may see an innocent person being harmed, hear the name of Christ slandered, or have a short window of opportunity to speak the truth. Typically, God will give you supernatural boldness as well as the ability to respond with confidence and wisdom.

  • What did Jesus tell His disciples about how to defend themselves before the authorities
    (Mark 13:11)?
  • Describe a time when you reacted in righteous anger to a wrong or an injustice. Did you sense the power of the Holy Sprit working through you? What was the result?
2. Commit the matter to prayer.
We should fight every battle on our knees. In fact, sometimes the Lord will ask us to intercede for a situation, rather than taking tangible action.

  • According to Ephesians 6:18, how often should we pray for other believers?
  • Name at least three things Paul prayed for the Colossians (Col. 1:9-12).
  • What happens when believers pray for government officials and others in authority (1 Tim. 2:1-4)?
3. Make sure your heart is clean before correcting anyone else.
Read Matthew 7:1-6.
John Gill's commentary explains that the "speck" in this passage refers to a bit of straw or a tiny splinter. It indicates small sins, comparatively speaking, such as immaturity, human frailties, inconsistencies, and imprudence. We are not to dwell upon or sharply rebuke others for such faults. "Log" indicates a beam of wood, the size of a tree trunk. It represents the weighty sins Jesus saw in the Pharisees—pride, vanity, self-righteousness, hypocrisy, and envy.

  • Explain this statement: "First take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye" (v. 5).
  • If we don't follow this instruction, what can be the result (1 Cor. 5:1-3)?
4. Don't sin when you address another's fault.
Read Galatians 6:1-5.

  • In what spirit should we approach a brother or sister who is caught in a transgression (v. 1)?
  • What are some temptations we face in the process of correcting another person or fighting moral ills in our culture?
  • What is a common pitfall of those who try to restore someone else (vv. 3-4)? According to Paul, how can we guard against this?
5. Find practical ways to make a difference.
We can sometimes spend more time criticizing or fighting others than we do reaching out to meet the practical needs of those who are hurting. For example, instead of complaining that your church doesn't have a ministry to shut-ins, volunteer to get one started.

  • What does an inability to control the tongue indicate about a person's spirituality (James 1:26)?
  • What are the two essential parts of "pure and undefiled religion" (James 1:27)?
  • What issues or problems in your family, church, community, or the world make you righteously angry?
  • How can you be a part of the solution, rather than just one more voice of criticism?
Closing: Whether fighting for family values in the community or coming to the aid of a suffering person, believers can find positive and godly ways to express holy anger. Rather than reacting quickly in the flesh, follow the Holy Spirit's leading. He will faithfully show you how to help solve the problem.
Prayer: Heavenly Father, enable me learn how to harness the power of anger. I want to use its energy to make a difference for Your kingdom. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen.


I hope these things help. I am not very good at these things or explaining or expressing myself. Just thought I would try to help and shed a little light on some things.

God bless
 
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I actually know quite a few in that community and they VERY WELL know my position.
"THOSE people" are no different than you or I. They sin the same way we do, they profess God to be their Savior just as we do. I'm sure the ones you know do know your position because you make it judgmentally and hypocritically clear what you think of their lifestyle. However God said, "Judge NOT lest ye be judged." Meaning the same degree of animosity you are judging that person with, is going to someday be used on yourself.

What lame excuse will you give Jesus when he asks you why you did'nt try ministering to these people instead of shunning them and judging them on your own terms?

I know alot of gay people, and I also know 2 or 3 transgender people also. I have absolutely no problem with them, except for what their lifestyle is, because I know it's wrong, BUT I don't openly mock them as you are doing with the person on here. I don't call them names and openly humiliate them. You are assuming to be God with your judgmental attitude here, and that's a dangerous thing to do. You are NOT God, so get off His throne and stop judging others until you have judged yourself!! Pull the plank out of your own eyes first, before you try plucking the splinter out of someone else's eyes.
 

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I rebuke those in need of rebuking and I love those in need of loving, but i will not rebuke these ppl who you would condemn and see impurity in them without first seeing it in yourself.

Whats wrong with modern day Christianity is the lack of love, if you really claim to stand for Christ then prove it show love and compassion for ALL ppl and not condemn them because they sin differently than you. A sinner cannot judge a sinner and if this is who you are as a person and Christian then you are in the same boat as the ppl you condemn. you then need to be saved as well as them. Anyone can call themselves a Christian and yes they can take that title they can study scripture they can pray to God but the mark that only a true Christian has is the love in their hearts.

From what I have seen from you so far I see no love only self righteousness
I agree, but we still shouldn't stand for the behavior he mentioned.